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hey nick (and everyone else..my first posting!!!)....great video..but even more so, it was great to listen to your commentary and explanation of the washing process. It is great to see someone with such a passion for these machines!!! Anyone who shares in this passion is not only unique but someone I call friend.
I love when the mechanical knob goes into the heating mode and the rotation changes with more pausing to soak! Its my favorite. I am from the U.S. and I have a Bosh Neext Premium washer. The washer has temp boosters to heat but doesnt have soak and pause and heat. It continues to wash at 50 rpms and will do that thru-out the course of the cycle until it heats up to 125 and temp boost to 150. The heating element l.e.d. lite shuts off. Then washing/heating l.e.d. lite goes out and continues to say washing at that temp. So i miss hearing the heating element sounds when its heating. My first intro to european washers was a creda which made those same sounds. Also, Miele heats the same way without the mechanical sounds which brings me back to your washer.
The clicking sounds brought memories back of my first european dishwasher- the gaggenau 215!!! it was a beautiful piece of machinary. It clicked for 15 min during the main wash and then had one large clunk sound then it would heat up for 40 min to 150 (it was cold water fed). After this it would start clicking all over again!!!! It would then finally clack and drain .
Anyway, your hoover is awesome! Thanks for sharing...I am a new guy on here and cant wait to talk to you all!!!
 
Wow! Nice video, Nick.

If I didn't know better, I'd say that machines sounds like it needs a new bearing. Is that just the motor sound we are hearing?

Do you consider that a full load? I don't think Bob would approve...
 
Hello Aldspin and welcome...

Thanks for your story too.

Peter H, the machine doesn't need a new tub bearing. The sound you hear is the motor. The motor could probably do with replacing, I just serviced it and refitted it. I consider that a `good' load, it was loaded fully but not tightly. I keep hearing references to `Bobloads' but not fully understanding them? I'm guessing Bob is a guy who likes to run a tight ship.......

Nick
 
loading...

I agree in your vids you use a sensible size of load which is adequate for the machine...however it depends on preference i suppose. My idea of a full load is way different to Jon's and Richard's... Lets face it you don't want to abuse the old dear hehehe.

Nick...a fellow Zanussi owner...I love them, my mother very recently passed on her Timeline jetsystem 1400 which is more or less identical to yours in terms of its action. More on that somewhere on the deluxe forum. Link to a few vids of that and my "underloading" below!

 
A Bob Load (C) is probably what you might consider overloaded. Watching your vid, I would consider that a small load, and put at least twice as much in there.

You ever crumble your Persil tabs and use the dispenser drawer? I really don't like using the bags.
 
Eeeeek!!!

Can't believe I missed this thread up until now!

What can I say, you did an absolutely cracking job on the restoration there Nick, and the machine looks like it has just been delivered. So I do hope you're taking advantage of the free installation check from your friendly Hotpoint engineer LOL.

Often saw these Hotpoints in other people's houses when I was growing up, they seemed to be everywhere at the time. IMHO your restoration has preserved an important piece of history; this machine was designed and built by Brits primarily FOR Brits, and that's something we no longer have. Today's Hotpoints and Hoovers are UK-assembled clones of Euro machines, and while I'm sure they have their merits, sadly it just doesn't feel quite the same.

Anyway - enough babbling from me. I do hope you're pleased with your handiwork and that all the effort has been rewarded with much enjoyment. Great videos and commentary by the way, and of course, it's always nice to see a face to put with the name.

Cheers,

Kirk
 
Thanks Kirk for your kind comments. I enjoyed working on the machine, now I just have to figure out what will be my next conquest!

PeterH, for the second time you have been critical of the amount of laundry I choose to wash in a load. On the video I think I showed the drum close up which showed it full apart from a hand width at the top, with the washing loosely loaded. Not that I should have to justify myself, but incase anyone's interested...I choose to use a washing machine this way because....

(a) I like the washing to tumble freely through the water, reach the top of the drum and then fall etc etc. A more loaded machine would result in a more harsh washing action with more abrasion and possible wear on fabrics.

(b) I do not like to iron and fuller loads = more creases. With my loads, a drop of softener and a low spin (I normally would use a low spin on that load) most items do not need ironing when low tumble dried then hung while still slightly damp. Or even if just shaken out and hung on a hanger without using the dryer....

(c) I try to sort my laundry reasonably well and often don't have a huge load of one type of wash, but don't want to keep my family waiting ages to have their clean clothes returned.

(d) I feel that in a FL the laundry is often not quite so fresh (and no, I don't mean `scented') after a big big load - though this is possibly psychological.....

I feel that when it comes to loading a washer - each to his / her own. I would never dream of commenting on (what is essentially) your ability to run a washing machine and I feel it impolite of you to think it's ok to question my methods. Furthmore, as if during a restoration I wouldn't have noticed a worn tub bearing!

To answer your other question.....no, I don't crumble the tablets in the drawer. To be honest I wouldn't be bothered with the whole crumbling thing. I must say that I'm not attached to the whole net thing either, especially since they are a faff to prewash with and not much good on a really gentle wash. I only use these particular tablets because they clean and rinse really well in my conditions and my son who has eczema tolerates them. However If I wanted to use a more delicate cycle I would probably use a liquid detergent like Ariel Color, or a Wool wash product for wool and silk, and that would also go in the drum directly inside a little ball.

Regards

Nick
 
aww Nick, i dont imagine Peter meant any harm. dont be cross. the bobload crowd likes to see a machine loaded on the verge of overload. i liked your video, and like your speaking voice, sounds good for radio.
 
Definitely, Nick you have a broadcast quality voice...

One must remember that when USA folks view Euro machines, we typically consider them as "small". When Miele and Asko appear at trade shows over here, they royally stuff their machines to prove the the USA market that their "little" 5kg machines can hold as much as any other toploader available, while in reality their demo loads would not even get damp in the middle throughout a 2 hour program. Having a 5kg Miele myself, I am very curious as to how the rest of the world loads up their 5kg machines. I think the reasons you list are excellent and make perfect sense, especially when you also take into consideration restrictions on the amount of water issued for each fill. Seeing your's and others' videos makes me wonder about how I load my machine. I maintain that my "little" 5kg Miele can hold as much as a extra-large capacity Dependable Care Maytag toploader, but maybe that is too much.

The first few times I used the bag for Persil tabs, the bag worked its way to the front of the tub and smeared detergent around the window. It took a while for the load to wipe it all away, and all I could think of was the super-concentrated, undissolved and undiluted detergent chemically burning up my clothes. Since then, I'm a Crumbler!

No criticism intended. My first post was meant jokingly. My second post was explanitory. Sorry you took it that way.
 
Loading up a machine...

Nothing to do with the actual thread topic but thought I'd add my pennies worth... to me you can get a lot inside a European frontloader; I don't pack it full however I do fill the tub up so that there is room to slide your hand in between the edge of the drum and the laundry - so it is full to capacity but not bulging out over the door seal. Once the load becomes wet it compacts down anyway so there is enough room to tumble (ususally the load compacts down so that it fills about 3/4 of the drum), and especially with this Miele and the Zanussi we had for a month I still get perfect rinsing results. However in the old Bosch; I could never stuff it full otherwise it would leave lint and fuzz all over dark laundry especially; so for it to wash and rinse properly you could only fill the drum 3/4 full with dry laundry. So I think it also depends on the machine you are using.

However I do agree with Nick that, for gentler loads and also for items that are more susceptible to creasing a load such as the ones in his Hotpoint videos then only loading half or 3/4 full, or a "loose" full load like Nick's is the way to go - however this is of course listed in most user manuals.

I have to say though when doing the family laundry if we didn't utililise the maximum 6kg capacity of mum's washer then we'd be washing for eternity!

Jon
 
Still learning the FL . . .

I've had my Danby for over a year now, and I'm STILL playing around trying to find the optimal loading technique for my machine. Essentially, I don't feel like my clothes truly get clean when I pack the machine full on the "Cottons" cycle.
When I pack it full and allow the machine to run at the default water level (which is VERY LOW), the machine takes several minutes to add enough water for all of the clothes in the load to actually get wet! Being the obsessive-compulsive guy that I am, I have begun filling all of my wash loads using the 1st rinse setting on the Permanent Press cycle and then turning the machine back to the beginning of the Cottons cycle for the long wash. This ensures they all get wet, and makes for a true profile wash at the same time.
I wonder if I would have this problem if I had a better machine such as the Miele? I have also considered buying the Duet HT, solely for the Jet Direct system that saturates the clothes with a recirculating jet of water and concentrated detergent. I was disapppointed to find, however, that this only takes place at the beginning of the wash cycle, and not through the duration of the wash and all of the rinses like Nick's Zanussi.
I suppose that until I can shuck out the cash for a 6 kg Miele, I will contuinue manually operating my machine and washing smaller loads to achieve satisfactory results.
Nick - great machines and awesome commentary on your vids!
Bryan

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Nickuk

Nick what was the difference Hotpoint Ultima you had in 2004 and the Hotpoint 18580. What was the model number of your Hotpoint from 2004 as I'm interested in which Hotpoint Ultima you had as I'm wondering about it? Could you describe your old Ultima to me? I'm guessing it was a WF860/WF865 or the last WMA series Ultima. Did it do the powerstream? And I really like your Zanussi videos and wondering if you could upload something as you've not uploaded in 10 years.

Janak
 
Hotpoint 18-- series

Hi Janak, hope all is good with you, I dont think Nick is around much so you may not get a response from him, (would be great to see him posting again) as this thread is many years old - however its great we can now pull up older threads in order to build on them as for instance quite a few other 1800 series Hotpoints have now come out of the woodwork...

The difference between the 1800 series (wrap around cabinets) and the later 95 series is vast, they built a brand new state of the art factory for this completely different built machine, motor still on top but now boasting plastic drums and LCD electronics and better electronic motor controls...

Here is a picture of my later 18680 with matching dryer, am just about to move it over to the new washer room and be placed next to the purple amerthyst matched set...

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Hotpoint 1800 series

And here is the last incarnation of this series, the Hotpoint 1842 in a rich brown colourway which was produced in 1981 as an exclusive for Currys UK Electrical Superstore. a few months later the "Next Generation" series by Hotpoint would be launched built in a state of the art new factory near the old one in North Wales.

 
Got to love the 18 series. As I've mentioned (just a few times, not repeating myself...COUGH AHEM!) my Grandma had a 18371 and matching dryer for many years whilst I was growing up. I used to love watching that machine. In many ways, I would say the 18 series were better than the new gen's, although the latter are certainly more of an 80's style icon in the same way the Liberator's are to the 70's.
 
Everyone

Reason why I was asking about Nicks old Ultima was because I was wondering which Ultima he owned in 2004 before he bought his Zanussi so could u help me guess which Ultima it was as I'm interested in these Hotpoints and the model number
 

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