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I love sticks. My Corolla has a stick right now. Even though a spinal infection crippled me up somewhat a few years ago, I still prefer shifting. I like the control. When I lived in Houston and worked downtown, and was constantly in heavy traffic, automatics were nice. But otherwise, I prefer a stick.

I looked at getting a pickup to replace the Corolla last summer. Can't even buy a pickup truck now with a stick! Kept the Toyota for now, it's working perfectly.

Does anyone else on here enjoy column shifters? They were so desirable in the late 30's and then, by the 60's, people were wanting stick shifts again. I had a '61 Chevy Biscayne in college with a three-on-the-tree and it was a joy to use and I could carry three people in the front seat.

I always wondered what happened to that Renault automatic from the Dauphine and R-8 days. It didn't have a torque converter and used ferrous dust and an electromagnet for clutching...
 
for 'wayupnorth'

Did you ever drive one of those cars with the solenoid clutch? An uncle of mine had a '63 Rambler with what they called the "E-stick". It was a regular stick shift but there was a solenoid actuated by the shift lever that would operate the clutch. It seemed pretty useless unless someone literally couldn't coordinate the clutch pedal. I dated a girl in college who had one of those VW Beetles with the automatic stick shift, sort of worked on the same principle. The solenoid was always acting up on hers.
 
Toyota: NEVER again in my life after not even one airbag deployed when i most needed, weeks ago.

And there's no excuse to say "the impact wasn't high enough to deploy the airbags". The computer registered ALL the airbags deployed, but none of them inflated.

Darryl was always very responsible with the maintenance, always at the official Toyota dealer even for a silly oil change.

Not to add: Coincidentally, a few months ago the airbags were replaced on a recall.

About 1 month before the rav 4 crash, i suffered a minor crash (driver cut my front and hit my side, not a big deal.) I was driving my Honda Fit.

Side and curtain airbags deployed, in a crash under 30 mph with minor damages to the car body.

My next car has to be AMERICAN, or a Volvo. MY life is more important than anything else. I don't care about powerful engines or high tech features. It has to be as safe as possible.

But honestly, I'm still afraid to drive and postponing as much as I can.

Well, now i can't drive because of injuries because the rav4 didn't protect me.
 
Electric parking brake

Haveing my drivers license for a year and 2 weeks now, I actually never learned to use the parking brake in an emergency.
I did my lessons and test in a Audi A3 with an electric parking brake and 6 speed manual transmission.

In case of break failure, I was tought to activate my hazards lights, getting to the farthest right lane if possible, quickly shift down, gear by gear, using the motor friction to slow down, pulling onto the side strip (where applicable) only once my speed was low enough that I could stop within visibility range.
If a turn I can't take was coming up I was supposed to stear into the side bariers or of the road where most safely.

The self-release feature of that Audi was actually quite handy. It basicly just released itself once you started driving, no matter if the street was even or steep, you started forward or backwards.
Made uphill starts pretty easy.
BTW, one of the worse things I had to do during my lessons: Parking my car backwards on a hill with my front facing downwards. Reversing hill up is hell on earth for me.

I am driving a somewhat old VW Golf IV 99-edition 5-speed manual (the old car of my mum) and from time to time my mums new Skoda Fabia Sport Version 6-speed manual.
Both have a manual parking break.

For parking on a manual, you are tought to engange the first gear on even roads and if you car is facing hill up or the reverse gear if you car is facing hill down. Then you engage the parking break, and only then you turn off the motor. Pull your key where applicable, and turn the stearing wheel until it locks.
For keyless ignitions, the stearing wheel usually locks automaticly.

But, quite honestly, with our TÜV system here in Germany, I rarely heared of any break failures.
Some verry steep Autobahnen however have lanes you can exit onto that lead into a steep hill to slow you down.

My mums Skoda has a distance control system with distance alarm and automatic break priming. A radar sensor checks for the distance to the car in front of you, shows a warning in the board computer display for driving to close, and if the car in front of you gets far to close or suddenly decelarates, it sounds an alarm and primes the breaks to apply the biggest possible breaking force as soon as possible.
I had an encounter with that while takeing a route around a traffic jam near Hamburg on the way back home from our holiday. A car in front of me suddenly pulled over into my lane a few meters from a red light and stopped. I was driving about 20km&#92h and was about 15m away. I was looking to the right at a trafic sign. As the alarm sounded, I just pushed the break and clutch padle all the way by reflex. The car came to a stop basicly immediatley.

These systems are avaible as self breaking systems as well, which can prevent collisions 100% independently up to a speed of 20 or 30km&#92h.

On the topic of touchscreens:
Some features are useless.
However, some basics are really nice on some touchscreens.
My mum has a fully speced entertainment system in her car, just without a build in navigation system.
Calling via bluetooth handsfree speakerphone is really easy. Hit the phone button and the picture of the contact you wanna call.
Choosing a different radio station is hard though as that menu has a scroll function that us somewhat touchy. That is better done via steering wheel remote and the board computer display.
And, most usefull: You can hookup your phone via USB and have Google Maps or simmilar show your navigation on the big main screen. No long looking at the small phone anymore.

thomasortega:

I'm verry soory to hear about your misfortune, I hope you get better soon.
I heared of absurdley many recals of a lot of Asian manufactured cars. My grandma drives a Hyundai ix20, which had a recall because of a parking break which could randomly stick while driving and thus cause accidents.

But with your case, and wihout suggesting that often at all, I think you'd have a verry good chance with a lawsuit against the manufacturer, the shop that executed the recall repair or the manufacturer of the airbags.
The airbag system is a cruical part of a cars safety system, and if the system clearly malfunctioned without any issue on your side, you most likely will have the right to a compensation for your pain and the loss of revenue by you.

I'm not one to talk bad about manufacturers much, but as soon as they compromise on saftey standards without any way of knowing about it, I get REALLY pissed of.

Edit: I just remembered why you never were supposed to use the parking break for eergency stops.
As that system usually uses a cable to activate the breaks, the ABS is bypassed, potentially blocking your cars wheels, thus makeing it possible to loose control and spin out.
Even if 3 of your wheels don't have any breaking power anymore, you can stop your care safely as the stability control and ABS can compensate for that. It will be a long breaking distance, but you'll stay in controll.[this post was last edited: 10/15/2017-03:32]
 
Skoda

I've read the British 'Car' magazine for decades. I always found those Soviet-era Skodas to be fascinating. I'm sure you know that they were based on the Renault Dauphine, restyled and refined over a bunch of years. They were still prone to wagging their tails, but at least in the UK, offered a lot of car for a decent price. Of course, they never came here to the US.

You know what I'd try to find if I lived in Germany today? One of those 'little stinkers', the Trabant. Testament to German ingenuity in light of the deprivation of the East Germans for so many years.

My second car, here in Texas and in high school, was a 1957 BMW Isetta, all white. I loved being able to step through that front door! It's amazing how much good examples go for now. I got rid of it when I went to the Univ. of Texas in Austin because it would've never made the hills. We never got the cool Isetta 600 like you have in Europe. Would I drive one now? Even in the small city in which I live now, I'd be awfully nervous having my legs being the 'crumple zone'...
 
Trabants

Nah. 2-stroke engine that is uber inefficent and tops out just above 100km&#92h. And not even seat belts in th back.

The real pinacle of german car design in my opinion is the VW Golf and Polo and all cars based on those (like the Skoda Fabia).
Verry compact yet you can comfortably drive huge distances, incredibly easy to drive, verry safe, quite efficent, can be bought in basicly any configuration, from verry basic and cheap up to verry well equipped high power car, and most of all verry durable (for the most part).
 
johnrk wrote:
"Did you ever drive one of those cars with the solenoid clutch? An uncle of mine had a '63 Rambler with what they called the "E-stick". It was a regular stick shift but there was a solenoid actuated by the shift lever that would operate the clutch. It seemed pretty useless unless someone literally couldn't coordinate the clutch pedal. I dated a girl in college who had one of those VW Beetles with the automatic stick shift, sort of worked on the same principle."

The VW semi-automatic used a sort of torque converter or fluid coupling, but the Rambler E-stick was pretty off the wall. The engine had an extra large oil pump, and as the oil pressure rose above idle, it was oil pressure that engaged the dry clutch. A crazy system, but it did get the same MPG as a standard shift car.
 
Brake failure

About fifteen years ago, I heard of a customer leaving the car showroom in a brand new Volvo. They went to apply the brakes - they crashed.

Apparently the brake system was faulty. I don't know if the brake fluid system was leaking, or if something had been left disconnected.
 
Henene4

You're absolutely right.

The parking brake should be used when you intentionally want to "loose control".

I mean, a drift, for example, is actually an intentional and controlled lost of control. You pull the brake at it's full and steer the wheels.

A trained driver, for example, can use a drift to reverse a car much faster by doing a 180° turn or a reverse 180° turn During training with my mom, the example scenario for 180° evasion was the attacker/hijacker in other car suddenly blocking the way right in front of you. The driver has less than 2 seconds to decide between a front or reverse extraction and needs to do two different evasive maneuvers in a few seconds. The easiest, if you have speed and distance enough is do the front evasion, which is simply accelerate and drift 180°. But in many cases you're so closer to the attacker or at so low speed that it's impossible to do, so the 180° reverse evasion is the second alternative. First is deactivate whatever electronic stability system, step deep on the brake, pull the parking brake in a way you can engage the reverse with the car still moving. then control the reverse acceleration on the clutch and parking brake. You will have the car moving forward but the wheels moving on reverse (and hopefully lots of smoke to help distracting the attacker.

Then you reverse at full speed and drift (pull the brake and steer at the same time you accelerate or simply step on the clutch, don't brake at all and steer). The car will spin around it's own radius, making it possible to change direction in the same lane. (this maneuver is considering a very narrow street, the perfect place for an attack)

To complete the extraction, you engage the 2nd before the car stops completely (never the first or the engine will die) or even the third, depending on the car you have.

During the test, the driver must complete the extraction in less than 6 seconds.

it's impressive how everything we learn in training is deeply recorded in our memory. I used to go to the training twice a year, as recommended by LCBlin (the company that armored my car). The last time i trained was more than 2 years ago, when I sold my armored Ford Focus and kept only the Renault Clio, already preparing to move to the US.

During the crash, i had less than one second to evaluate the situation and decide what to do.

When the bmw hit us i was at 65 and the other car at more than 100 mph. instantly i lost control, my car was thrown to the left, i hit the median (front left corner) and started to spin counter clockwise. the same car hit me again front left side, making me spin out of control clockwise. It i just step deep on the brake, as whatever driver would instinctively do, a rollover would start at that moment.

I pulled the brake and steered to the right, using the centrifugal force to put the car back. It worked but not 100% because the front left wheel broke when we were hit. I ended the manouver moving straight but facing the shoulder at a 45° angle, but again out of control because of the missing wheel.

Other split second decision. If i hit the guard rail straight at 45°, it would brake and we would simply fall from the freeway (about 20 meters slant fall).
So i did a throw slalom to change the angle. i hit the guard rail almost parallel to it. When i felt the guard rail, then i finally stepped deep in the brake and pulled the parking brake to make the wheels "dive" in the fluffy soil.

We stopped with the front right wheel already out of the road, at an angle the passenger door could open just enough for Darryl to get out. (that wasn't planned)

Everything lasted less than 10 seconds, but every time i remember the scene it's like a slow motion movie that lasted forever. It's scary, I don't want that even for my worst enemy.
At the same time it's impressive how our brain automatically works so fast to register everything and make the decisions. I remember clearly describing to Darryl what was going to happen. I first screamed "he's going to hit us" when i saw the headlight on the mirror and I even remember aligning my head with the headrest to wait for the impact and stepping deep on the gas to minimize the impact. It took forever in slow motion. "he is going to hit us again", and saying loud my actions. brake, release, steer, slalom, brake. Honey, are you ok? wait. don't release the belt yet (we waited maybe 5 seconds until i had time to evaluate the surroundings in the dark.) Honey, open your door.

Of course I'm going to sue Toyota. When i hit the median, the front and knee airbags should have deployed, eventually the side ones. but half second later a side impact that was enough to break the wheel and change the car direction should definitely have deployed the side airbags.

Well, they all deployed (according to the car's computer), but none of them inflated.

One thing that deployed and worked very well was the safety belt pre-tensioners. They retracted the safety belt enough to keep me tight in position. Without my body "locked" a proper position, tight against the seat, I'd never be able to do the emergency maneuvers.

 
Another opportunity to feel old came to me in this article about a 16 year old who didn't know how to start a car with a key.

 

Quote:

 

It's commonly discussed that the manual-rolling window is an automotive feature that has more or less died, but have you considered the key? The key is rapidly going the way of the dodo, as it's being replaced by fobs and push-button starts. Many future kids may not have any clue how to start a car with one -- and, in fact, this is already happening.

 

https://www.autotrader.com/car-news/i-had-to-teach-a-16-year-old-to-start-a-car-with-a-key-269816
 
Millennials?....puh-leeze.....with everything available to them for knowledge at a fingertips grasp on the internet, will ask some of the most bizarre, no check that, stupidest questions ever.....

I didn't have this stuff growing up, the internet wasn't around....and I had more intelligence...better yet, common sense.....

our twins are 17, just got their permits.....

everything is why?, why?, why?....

Day one.....

gear shift positions...P..R..N..D......and forget if it has a 2..1...or worst an L

why P for Park if I am standing still, shouldn't that be H for Hold, or S for SetStill or Stay....

if R is for Reverse....should the D actually be an F for Forward....

trust me, they don't understand the 10 and 2 hand position, because the clock is digital.....

it was time to re-take Drivers Ed 101.......because they didn't learn a thing.....

when I learned how to drive...way before my permit.....and it was with a stick shift to boot....you didn't question things, you familiarized yourself with the vehicle.....then proceeded, push in clutch, shift to first, release the brake, apply a little gas, and slowly ease up on the clutch, as you 'felt' the grip, both feet moved in sequence, and you were off.....next was clutch, shift, gas!....easy as pie....

oh, and to be truthful, I bunny hopped and stalled the first time.....I didn't ask why.....started it again, moved both feet back and forth a few times, got used to the vibrations...OK, OK, I got this....here we go....

whats more funny.....drive a stick shift for 15+ years, then get into an automatic.....force of habit at 50mph, to jam down the brake and pull the shifter down to low....as everyone is kissing the dashboard....
 
My uncle got flustered with us kids in the back seat, drove up the street and instinctively slammed the power brake with his left foot and shifted the automatic into park. I do miss the simplicity of older vehicles, like the newer reliability but hate having to go boing, boing to turn up or down the heat or a/c, etc.etc. I want to just drive, not frig with a touch screen and watch the road. I have had my licence 48 years and only one chargeable accident way back in 1969.
 
"whats more funny.....drive a stick shift for 15+ years, then get into an automatic.....force of habit at 50mph, to jam down the brake and pull the shifter down to low....as everyone is kissing the dashboard.... "

LOL

Until today i do that sometimes... almost 2 years driving only the automatic crap and until today I couldn't get used to it.
 
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