GE at our restore today

[panasonicvac]

Yup, I don't like it when a tub tilts or rust happens on SQ. Also another issue I've noticed with SQ is the sudsing. My LG has the same issue as well but I'm still happy I bought it over a SQ. But I never had that problem with GE or even my Kenmore. This particular model lasted for a good long while.

 

[circlew]

Yup, I don't like it when a tub tilts or rust happens on SQ. Also another issue I've noticed with SQ is the sudsing. My LG has the same issue as well but I'm still happy I bought it over a SQ. But I never had that problem with GE or even my Kenmore. This particular model lasted for a good long while.

Why would a SQ be any more likely to rust than any other washer? If you're speaking of the tub, I thought those were 300 series stainless steel with a lifetime warranty against rust. I know someone who had a solid tub model, and the SS tub still looked new when they got rid of it after 20 years.

 

[panasonicvac]

Not saying it's guaranteed to happen but if I were to soak my clothes overnight, I'd rather not take the risk.

https://automaticwasher.org/threads/rust-in-my-speed-queen-washer.92723/

https://automaticwasher.org/threads/fixing-my-speed-queen-rustbucket.96842/

 

[DADoES]

Why would a SQ be any more likely to rust than any other washer? If you're speaking of the tub, I thought those were 300 series stainless steel with a lifetime warranty against rust. I know someone who had a solid tub model, and the SS tub still looked new when they got rid of it after 20 years.

Distinction must be made between the outer tub and inner basket. SQ has a porcelain outer tub. The inner spin-basket is SS. The second link above shows that the outer tub is rusting, not the basket.

 

[Chetlaham]

Not saying it's guaranteed to happen but if I were to soak my clothes overnight, I'd rather not take the risk.

https://automaticwasher.org/threads/rust-in-my-speed-queen-washer.92723/

https://automaticwasher.org/threads/fixing-my-speed-queen-rustbucket.96842/

That only happens using way to much bleach or other abrasives in excess during prolonged soaks. Outside of machine misuse an metal outer tub does not give problems.

 

[Chetlaham]

Yup, I don't like it when a tub tilts or rust happens on SQ. Also another issue I've noticed with SQ is the sudsing. My LG has the same issue as well but I'm still happy I bought it over a SQ. But I never had that problem with GE or even my Kenmore. This particular model lasted for a good long while.

That video shows a washer that can't rinse and can't handle suds. The rinse at 13:05 has more suds than the wash despite the large amount of water relative to the load. The machine also needs to default to a slow first spin at 7:23 and then pulse itself to prevent suds locking the machine.

Speed Queen doesn't have inner basket re-reinforcements that whip up suds, Speed Queen has a clutch so any suds drag doesn't over heat the motor, Speed Queen accelerates gradually in spin and has a spray rinse to knock down residual suds. Speed Queen rinse water is far clearer than GE's.

If you're getting suds lock on a Speed Queen you are using way to much detergent.

Second issue- look at how lightly loaded the machine has to be just to get turn over. GE knows this hence the ribs on the wash basket- so clothes touching the side can actually get clean when loaded with more clothes than the few seen in the video.

 

[Chetlaham]

Also, from the comments in that video:



The motor can't tolerate suds of any kind due to the lack of clutch. While GE did good (IMO) going to a PSC motor getting rid of the centrifugal start switch, they should have kept the clutch so the machine can actually handle large loads and/or sudsing. A suds lock of any kind will cause the motor to trip out or burn up where as any vintage washer or Speed Queen classic just slips its belt or clutch clutch without issue.

 

[qsd-dan]

That video shows a washer that can't rinse and can't handle suds. The rinse at 13:05 has more suds than the wash despite the large amount of water relative to the load. The machine also needs to default to a slow first spin at 7:23 and then pulse itself to prevent suds locking the machine.

Speed Queen doesn't have inner basket re-reinforcements that whip up suds, Speed Queen has a clutch so any suds drag doesn't over heat the motor, Speed Queen accelerates gradually in spin and has a spray rinse to knock down residual suds. Speed Queen rinse water is far clearer than GE's.

If you're getting suds lock on a Speed Queen you are using way to much detergent.

Second issue- look at how lightly loaded the machine has to be just to get turn over. GE knows this hence the ribs on the wash basket- so clothes touching the side can actually get clean when loaded with more clothes than the few seen in the video.

What a POS! Suds locking AFTER a neutral drain with no excessive detergent or a spray rinse. Poor rinsing and can't balance a load that's not out of the realm of normalcy. Agitation is much nosier than a DD. Did any GE top loader spray rinse after the FF's? I know Hydrowaves didn't. This model didn't, either.

 

[Chetlaham]

What a POS! Suds locking AFTER a neutral drain with no excessive detergent or a spray rinse. Poor rinsing and can't balance a load that's not out of the realm of normalcy. Agitation is much nosier than a DD. Did any GE top loader spray rinse after the FF's? I know Hydrowaves didn't. This model didn't, either.

The tub re-enforcements hamper performance and just cause drag. No other washers had them that I know of.

My 98 Model T did spray rinse twice for 5 seconds after the deep rinse on the Cottons cycle and once in the first spin for 5 seconds and twice in the final spin for 5 seconds on the Permanent Press Cycle. Latter early 2000s models very quickly abandoned the spray rinses.

I hated the spray rinse being in the final spin. I once put some damp items in the machine, set it to the whirl icon for what I thought would be a wring out, only to then become flabbergasted why the items came out wetter than they were put in.

The Model T I had was unpleasant surprise after unpleasant surprise.