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daveamkrayoguy

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well, here’s my new envision that i’ve been telling you all about and I bought her on a snowy day such as this…
 

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Really nice interior, sort of like my subie. I'm partial to white cars because they always look pretty clean and don't need washing as much. Got a dark gray one now and it looks dreadful these past few days with all the salt and road schmutz covering it,, never had that with the previous white subie.
 
So, thanks all—would rather have a Buick is right…

Shame after the rest of the divisions after Chevrolet have gotten killed off, then that’s all that’s left, until you wake up and realize how with the way Stellatis got Chrysler after the Daimler fiasco, where to go to when I’ve still got GM in my heart and soul…

Can’t wait for Summer or at least that Hot Spring!
 

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I really expected better of Daimler with the Chrysler "merger". A few good design features came from the Germans, but for the most part, it was a mess. The Crossfire was a total dud... I had one neighbor who had one and loved it, but I thought it was ugly and impractical. Chrysler seems destined to fail, I'm amazed they've lasted as long as they have. It'll be a shame, I think they've built some beautiful stuff over the years, and they don't seem to have quite so strong a "killed by committee design" penchant as GM does. Plymouth Prowler, Chrysler 300, Dodge "looks like a semi truck" styling, even the 1st generation Neon... and I don't care what anyone says, the PT Cruiser was the best executed retro styled car of the bunch. Chrysler divisions had the chutzpa to go out on a limb... Chevy got the frumpy me-too HHR and the pointless SSR.
 
Dave. I wouldn't try opening the sunroof in this weather, might damage the rubber gasket. I rarely open mine and would have preferred if it could have been deleted. Though we've never had problems with them in the Foresters our next door neighbors older Santa Fe sunroof was leaking last summer, made a nice messs of the interior..
 
Congratulations Dave on your new Buick.

Even though it’s made in China, I’m glad you at least stuck with an American brand where at least some of the profits may stay here.

I’ve had my new Chrysler Pacifica for two years now absolutely zero problems and one of the reasons I bought it was I wanted something that was union made in the United States. Actually it’s technically the final assembly is in Windsor over the bridge from Detroit.

I looked at the Toyota sienna minivans, but they don’t have the heavy duty suspension and trailer towing capabilities that I wanted in my Pacifica. I also wanted to have all wheel drive.

John L
 
Dave. I wouldn't try opening the sunroof in this weather, might damage the rubber gasket. I rarely open mine and would have preferred if it could have been deleted. Though we've never had problems with them in the Foresters our next door neighbors older Santa Fe sunroof was leaking last summer, made a nice messs of the interior..

No, Pete the sunroof was never opened—the car only came with the sunshade opened, then I closed it but I wished I opened it for the first car wash, otherwise I’m sure no harm just to show off the (with the ice on it, hammered) glass…

One factory sunroof I had which was on a used ‘95 Ford Thunderbird needed a slight nudging from the dealer to work again from a minor stalling on its way opening actually then got to a perfect shut and worked well after that…

I had a ‘95 Mercury Cougar (also used) that I added an aftermarket Webasto to and never had problems with, nor did I ever on my 2003 Honda Civic EX and I had that car for twelve years until 2015, which I drove longer with the air conditioner not working…
 
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Oils and fluids are one reason at least to maybe "lease" electric. Not only no gas to buy, but no oil changes, transmission fluid, or all drive axles. No fluid leaks to worry about after warranty either. Scrap it when the batteries die if you buy one, same as any car, and you're no worse for wear on the wallet. New engines are junk anyway. Cam phasers, timing chains, belts, cooolant pumps, etc.
 
Oils and fluids are one reason at least to maybe "lease" electric. Not only no gas to buy, but no oil changes, transmission fluid, or all drive axles. No fluid leaks to worry about after warranty either. Scrap it when the batteries die if you buy one, same as any car, and you're no worse for wear on the wallet. New engines are junk anyway. Cam phasers, timing chains, belts, cooolant pumps, etc.

Well, I’m with you on electric then if not going to have a car for more than 2-3 years without quickly seeing the next new improvements in the next model year appeal to me…

As for turbos, I’m surprised that I don’t have a gauge or lights monitoring it, and this and my Buick Envision before it are the first cars I had with turbos and what I couldn’t get out of getting—4-cylinders, to boot!
 
William8, most every newer engine has at least one turbo. Except thirsty V-8's.
Dave, some transmission sport modes switch the cluster to display rpm's and or boost. Try the buttons and toggle through the settings too.
 
Hmmmm, every car’s got a tach, concern for temperature than volts or oil pressure, but I have a setting that will allow all those plus oil temperature and transmission temperature to be viewed but only one on the dashboard and rather two big taking the place of either the day and date which was what the factory came with or can display the two trip odometers and timer—that I was obsessively resetting after every trip and my jeep cherokee had two timers that prolonged getting out of the car or even turning it off and someone getting out would cause a door ajar over those OCD-producing doo-dads on the Chrysler-made product…

So with that buried, I’m cured from that compulsion, only have MPH, RPM, the regular ‘original driving miles on’-odometer and maybe fuel economy with how many miles are left I can drive before refueling on the gas gauge…

Nothing related to turbo on this nor my other turbo engine-powered ride, making me think maybe such is not as important as when the turbo came out, or your sports cars, muscle cars and maybe foreign would retain…
 
When we had our Ram 1500 I was surprised that it didn't have any lights telling you when the cylinders deactivated. I would have thought that to be a somewhat necessary feature. In the years we owned it I never actually new if it ever worked or not because of having no lights.
 
Pete, that's because you're not supposed to know when cylinders deactivate. Not with sophisticated controls. So lights would be redundant. Then you'd be distracted listening for it and a jerk.
 
My Jeep Compass only had the engine-shaped yellow light go on and at least the temperature gauge…

The Jeep Cherokee after it would at least have the red battery-shaped voltage light, and its temperature gauge, but there like the previous one, nothing about oil…

—temperature or pressure…
 

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Well here’s the gauge cluster that must be drawn up from a “hidden setting” via touchscreen…

Unfortunately you can only have one of them added to the main dash…

Of which is only useful, if by chance, say:

Ozzy ordered an over-sized oil pressure gauge today!
 

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Well, it'a Buick... You're expected to enjoy tooling down the road lounging on your nice, quiet living room sofa and never, ever look at the dash. You know, like the "old lady that only drove it to church on sunday" -with the left blinker on and the seat belt buckle clattering on the road the whole way... (actually, as GM stuff goes, I've liked a LOT more Buick models than any of the other divisions!) If you want gauges, you should'a bought a Vette or an Silverado! Seriously, I hate some of the new LCD dash panels. I can't imagine working for a car rental company and having to learn how to pull up the odometer on 25 different models. And where they hide the auto stop-start and lane keeping disable buttons is always a mystery -if they even give you one! I hate pulling up to a light and the engine is like... "puhhh" followed by dead silence. And if I want to drive the damn thing into a ditch, that's my God given right! I guess I'm just old and cantankerous...
 
Yes, if you see that Cadillac warning light cluster, then you'll know how much I like those warning lights (or idiot lights, or LIGHTS, idiot!--lol)...

Even at times, prefer them to gauges... And among my anal-retentive idiosyncrasies, would probably go digging for them, wishing I'd taken the $60,000 Dodge Charger that has them right over the center console, with a few more vital systems monitoring added as a standard display...
 
Well now comes one important feature that my old car did better…

The driver’s under dash light is confined to this one corner… It’s a little light bulb up in a hole pointing downward like a spotlight but only in that area…

Which explains why the light comes out in a circle and not quite illuminating the entire area above and around the pedals…

But somehow the passenger side stayed the way it did before, more normal…

Disappointing also are the windshield wiper switches in a tic-tac size behind the turn signal lever…

Nice to have it back there for the front and now the rear, but the front has only three intermittent settings…

Better than the only two intermittent's my Jeep Compass had, but my old Buick Envision gave me five intervals and a Mist that ran the wipers in a pulse, or one time…

Now where did that go? GM was the first to introduce Mist for their wipers since the mid-‘60’s…

The wiper and washer, which for the front washer, is a knob on the end of the turn signal stalk, but the rear, you push up to activate even though you'll mostly want to wash the rear window maybe while it’s running…

That control is not illuminated either… Doesn’t light up…

Though the gear shift opposite it is/does…
 

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Oh Dave, first the glove box lamps were omitted. Our Edge ST Line hasn't any footwell lights. Our 2020 ST not only had them, but also had illuminated door handles, cupholders and console compartment. You could even change the colors from blue, to red, or green. At least the rear washer wiper is a stalk on the right side steering column with the front ones. A rocker switch to wipe, and a pull back on the lever to wash the front. Push down to wash the rear window. The delay is a n integral knob and I think they are rain sensing. Headlamps are auto dimming and brighter than the SEL models.
 
Oh Dave, first the glove box lamps were omitted. Our Edge ST Line hasn't any footwell lights. Our 2020 ST not only had them, but also had illuminated door handles, cupholders and console compartment. You could even change the colors from blue, to red, or green. At least the rear washer wiper is a stalk on the right side steering column with the front ones. A rocker switch to wipe, and a pull back on the lever to wash the front. Push down to wash the rear window. The delay is a n integral knob and I think they are rain sensing. Headlamps are auto dimming and brighter than the SEL models.

Yes, the basic functions and features have given way to my multi-color strip lighting, which came in purple, but I changed to that red to go with more of the interior...

Colors chosen almost from that box you can color the characters and/oir backgrounds of here...

Edited a bit about the wiper/washer controls: The INTERMITTENT speed details:

Two on my Compasss

Five on my old Invision

Three on my new Invision

A number of basic cars, maybe when Intermittent Wipers were introduced, you were lucky to have one, and I drove a rented Toyota with that, while my 2003 Honda Civic EX had a multitude, while the lower LX would give you only one, of which an across the street with her 2006 LX, has it that way...

The rear wiper washer, you wither push the button up, much like you would the front one, or you can, pressing it further down on the low speed, can use the washer, but I tend to do my washing accidentally starting it the other way, so I was briefly unaware I can still wash the conventional way...

(sounding like the owners manual, here)
 
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