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Right, though I'd rather use a dishwasher by pressing a few buttons instead of manually riding it through service mode. Or turning the dial beyond the start point on an EM model. At that point your dishwasher is no longer automatic. Simple is better. Less labor is better.

Right. If you run a fraction of water through the filter, the odds go up that in some point time all of the water molecules will have passed through the fine filter mesh.

Nope, false, they can not be over ridden. Whether you select Normal, Heavy, Light , Pots and Pans, no options, ect the thermal hold will always commence and not advance until either the target temperature is reached or 25-40 minutes have elapsed. Which ever comes first. But the user can not...

Indeed. However, eventually, all the water gets filtered through and its associated particles. If you're getting periodic yibbles, might have an issue with the machine. At the cost of a long cycle. At best. No thanks. The real credit belongs to Maytag. If you want true 100% filtration, go...

If you're defending 3 hour wash times. Which I am not.

Right, in the event the heater gave out. Otherwise the machine would run forever. With residual heat from the main wash and water heating going on before and/or after the thermal hold those 30 minutes are more than enough time to achieve 140*F.

You have the advantage of a cold fill and lots of time which gives detergent enzymes time to work. So yes, more is getting dissolved by detergents. In the US most main wash fills are around 120*F and heated above that. The pre-wash fills already warmed the dishes and cavity of the machines so...

People are still complaining in the US about dirty filters, stink, food bits at the bottom of grate and poor performance. The Power Clean Module also does a post main wash purge if it does not default to a full rinse before the final rinse. The difference is the filter is trully self cleaning...

Because it actually allows the physical space for a food soil removal scheme. You need a big enough motor, enough water volume, a slopped sump, and a large enough impellar, macerator, soil chamber, soil seperator, guard and wash arm.

Why do I need to clean a dishwasher? If it can't clean itself, why should I trust it to clean my dishes? Americans deserve better. Because 3+ hour cycles are needed to compensate for the lack of spray pressure and re-circulation volume in tall tubs. Nobody wants to wait that long. Whirlpool...

Right, which is why you also need time and detergent. Which is why the Power Clean Gives you two generously sized detergent cups and two long heated 140*F temp assured washes with a rinse in between. Modern tall tubs don't give you two long temp assured washes. In fact the single main wash...

You're saying your tall tub smells that way? :sick: Funny, because I've seen and still see hand pre-rinsing.

Yup! I don't dispute that. In fact that is one of the core issues. Your relatives first dishwasher wasn't a Power Clean. Once a person uses a dishwasher without fine filtration, maceration, particle carry away, hot water, a reasonably long main wash and good water distribution they quickly into...

Some of it is misuse, as can happen even with the best makes. However a manual clean filter can not handle the amount of particles, food soil and food bits the way a power clean module can. A Power Clean Module is truly self cleaning being able to shred, macerate, hold and flush large amounts...

This is not what people IMO are supposed to be putting up with:

Based on what I've seen in person, heard in person, and all the internet talk of poor cleaning and stinky filters over the last 20 years. I literally had a friend who went tall tub and the spray arm holes started clogging. People at Sears in the early 2010s complaining how their new tall tubs...

There are many in America who are forced to pre-rinse their dishes.

User pre-rinsing. Most Americans with a tall tub pre-rinse in various degrees. With the amount of water used pre-rinsing and pre-treating, it would make more sense to just add soap to a sponge spending a few extra seconds washing everything by hand. With a Power Clean Filter Module water never...

Energy efficiency mandates have only resulted in more energy being used with more landfill waste. Dishwasher efficiency peaked in the early 2000s with the electronic Power Cleans and then it went down hill from there as a whole. Even an absolute BOL Power Clean with a mediocre 11 gallon water...

Indeed, however, it brought down cost and offered simplicity in that there is less to go wrong.