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Yes I am afraid my opinion of Asian made machines was tainted by working at the re-cycling centre.

An example would be every LG that came in had knackered bearings, the build quality was nothing special, the bearing housings were fairly small so I can only assume so were the bearings fitted, or of course was the seals that were failing, I mean your mums only lasted 7 years which to me is a very short time for a tub seal to last.

Then there was the guy on here who stripped that LG direct Drive washer to repair it and gave us plenty of pictures and descriptions of its failings the list goes on though LG are not the only company churning out this sort of equipment on an unsuspecting public

Then of course there were all the other budget Asian machines, much the same but even more under engineered and cheaply made only a few years old if that, then of course all the electrical failures, control boards etc etc, so from my viewpoint Asian machines have nothing to offer other than glitzy front panels.

And of course my Bosch was a German built one not that did it any good as I only kept it a year so I cannot comment on its longevity.

As regards saying nothing I do try and be constructive in my criticisms of machines that I think do not make the grade and my opinions on LG machines have been talked about openly on here before

If you now own an Asian machine and are happy with it then good for you, enjoy it.

But I think to write off Italian machines in such a negative way is not called for, remember Italy was one the premier washing machine producing countries, it is only cheap crap coming from other countries that have forced them and other countries to downgrade their own products to compete with cheap labour countries, so we all end up in this situation.

Gary
 
@ henene4 - your talking about a new ECO line on dryers and washerdryers, and EcoHybrid... what are they... LG?

@ aquarius1984 - Nobody on this thread has made any reference to nations, nationalities or races but yourself. I'm probably missing something out here but I fail to grasp the reason why you're saying these things to me. I don't have a problem with stating the name of the brand which has caused me distress, without picking on the whole race of people associated with the country where the product comes from. For that very reason I'm not too keen on Indesit products independently of the country where they're made/designed. Maybe in this case you should re-read your last sentence and follow your own advice.
 
Gary,

My response was not directed at you, I respect your findings and experience.
They are very valid and very first hand.

I was responding to the member who has not had first hand or quantitive experience with details and explanations passing comment about something he clearly dosnt know about.

7 years is young I agree but given the life expectancy of 6-7 years of a machine its on the nose and considering it was easily repaired given 2 hours work and cheap parts its exceeded its owners expectations and mine too.

Like I mention its outlasted those Italian machines previous to it and that alone given its cost, I think a good deal compared to what could of been bought and disposed of during the 8 years.

Hope no offence caused to yourself Gary, really wasnt you I was posting about. :)
 
Haxis-fan,

My post was neither to you too.

The culprit seems to have a fixation with slagging off Korean goods on previous threads and when the shoes on the other foot seems nowhere to be seen as usual!!!!!

For every reason he finds slag off an LG I can mention something Italian im sure.

:)
 
Yes, LG. They are called EcoHybrid (as I looked up now..) and are pretty new here. These washer-dryers were avaible since spring as a 9/6 and a 8/6 kg version, now they started a 12/8 kg version, too. Heatpumpdryers launched the same time as 9kg and 8kg, later came one without glass-door, know the 9kg version had been quit.
 
Model No.

@ frontloaderfan:

Sorry, I don't remember its name. And since Quelle is no more, I think it was rarely available anyway.
 
Who would produce enough washing to fill one of these though I wash for 3 and that's with a six year old getting changed a least twice a day considering its the six weeks holiday at the moment and I'm using a 5kg currys essential washing machine and I have that on once or maybe twice a day but I think having a 15kg washing machine for domestic use is abit silly I would never buy a machine with over 8kg I reckon I've had a hotpoint ultima with a 8kg and I think it's too big, ok don't get me wrong it came in handy sometimes but not very often I used to find myself under filling it all the time , I've got to switch to a compact washing machine and tumble dryer soon with a tiny 3kg load due to I'm moving and the flat I'm moving to has only the space for a small washing machine, but 15kg is just way to big.
 
83 kilos - that's not much. Mine is 101 kilos with a 92 liters drum and I thought that was light weight.

Yes, mine takes quite a while to get hot. It can do a 60C wash for a full load of lighty soiled cottons in two hours but I suppose that means as soon as the NTC registers 60C, it will drain. Thermals holds are practically unknown to the washer. If I load - as the manual suggests - six kilos into the washer and select Daily Wash, it'll drain after 25 minutes of main wash regardless of whether the temp is at 40C or not.

Unfortunately, this new place I'm living at does not have hot water in the laundry room - otherwise, heating wouldn't be an issue. I really wonder why they can't make washers with 3.500 watt heating elements any more. My dryer draws almost 3.000 watts so why not the washer, too? *grrr*

The EcoHybrid LG is on the Englisch web site as well:

 
The LG weighs 83 kilos and has a 112 liters drum.
Mine weighs 101 kilos and has a 92 liters drum.

The LG seems really leight for such a high "rated" capacity of 15 kilos.

That's what I thinks, too. 16A should be possible with most households. Most condenser dryers here are rated at 16A and no one complains. But washers are all just 10A...
 
One cannot compare FL to TL, but...

...our Candy TL holds 7kg and I doubt it reaches 70kg empty weight...When it comes to the spin cycle I always believe it is going to burst (or blast).
 
7kg load to 70kg weigth is good. But EU TL machines are always more heavy then FL machines as they have a higher leveled center of gravity. Mieles with 5.5kg TL modells weigth at least 90kg, even through they use GlaronK, a special mixed plastic, for the outher tub...
 
I just had a look at the Samsung WF 431 (sold over here as a "commercial model") and it only weighs 100 kilos as well - at a rated capacity of 14 kilos.

The Bosch Logixx 10 was around the same weigh for a ten kilo capacity. Besides, it only came with a weak heating element of only 1300 watts IIRC.
 
Italian machines longevity

I had a German AEG, and the bearings barely lasted 3 years. The Zanussi which followed, lasted 8 years: the motor was on the way out. Now have a Panasonic.

My mum had British Hoover machines, followed by a Candy-ised Hoover Excel which lasted about seven years (motor and electronics). She now has a Bosch aged 7 years.

My sister had a Candy Aquaviva and it lasted about 14 years. Now has a Bosch.

My brother had a Candy Combiwash and it lasted even longer. Now has a Hotpoint.
 
Samsung 12kg

A WiFi washer... Weight 71 kg, drum volume 79 litres. I think this is way too little. The 60° programme will run 4h4mins, this is ridiculous. 2.400W seems a little bit weak, too.
 

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