spankomatic
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1950 Youngstown Dishwasher Video
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toploader55
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9 Minute Cycle.
Maybe today's Manufacturers should watch this and figure out a way that doesn't require 1.5 to 2 hours for a load of dishes.
Maybe today's Manufacturers should watch this and figure out a way that doesn't require 1.5 to 2 hours for a load of dishes.
9 minute cycle
These were not quite as great as the film portrays them to be. Keeping that uninsulated tank at 180F all the time consumed some amount of electricity. CU said that while most of the early dishwashers could clean dishes that were not prerinsed, food particles were often found where the dishes rested against the tub and dishes were cleaner if prerinsed.
Robert, did you notice that they did something to prevent the spray from the top four holes from blurring the wash action?
These were not quite as great as the film portrays them to be. Keeping that uninsulated tank at 180F all the time consumed some amount of electricity. CU said that while most of the early dishwashers could clean dishes that were not prerinsed, food particles were often found where the dishes rested against the tub and dishes were cleaner if prerinsed.
Robert, did you notice that they did something to prevent the spray from the top four holes from blurring the wash action?
that doesn't require 1.5 to 2 hours for a load of dishes
Well first off, ya don't have 180 degree water baking everything on to the dishes. Also, today's dishwashers can hold a service for 12 and ya don't have to be a contortionist to load the darn thing. Even a spin tub is more flexible in loading than this thing. My grandparents had oe of these.
Well first off, ya don't have 180 degree water baking everything on to the dishes. Also, today's dishwashers can hold a service for 12 and ya don't have to be a contortionist to load the darn thing. Even a spin tub is more flexible in loading than this thing. My grandparents had oe of these.
You notice, also, that even though they said you did not have to remove the top rack for loading, the lady did remove it each time. Something that big and it only holds service for six. Hotpoint and Kitchenaid had them beat on capacity.
I am suspicious about the egg & mustard mixture. I think the mustard somehow contributed to disturbing the egg protein bonding to the dishes. I wonder what it would have been like to have let real breakfast dishes with smeary egg residue dry on the dishes before washing?
Nice shots of other appliances like the Frigidaire Washer and the Westinghouse range. Man, using three saucepans at the start of meal preparation; how long has it been since that was seen in most kitchens?
I am suspicious about the egg & mustard mixture. I think the mustard somehow contributed to disturbing the egg protein bonding to the dishes. I wonder what it would have been like to have let real breakfast dishes with smeary egg residue dry on the dishes before washing?
Nice shots of other appliances like the Frigidaire Washer and the Westinghouse range. Man, using three saucepans at the start of meal preparation; how long has it been since that was seen in most kitchens?
lonestar1947
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I'm still looking for one of these, and it's been years! I would like a working model, but wonder if something like this is really practical for daily use.
I think everything would need to be pre rinsed of food to get it to work right.
Please keep me in mind if you ever see any of these out there!
I'm still looking for one of these, and it's been years! I would like a working model, but wonder if something like this is really practical for daily use.
I think everything would need to be pre rinsed of food to get it to work right.
Please keep me in mind if you ever see any of these out there!
westingman123
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Hey, thanks, Spanky!
I watched the whole 21 minutes twice. I really like the look of these machines. Not to mention those 1949 kitchens.
I watched the whole 21 minutes twice. I really like the look of these machines. Not to mention those 1949 kitchens.
I do not remember seeing an ancient dishwasher like the YT, Apex or KA loaded with dishes that had not been rinsed. Way back then, it was probably a combination of factors like the primitive detergents and the results from attempts to wash dishes with food soil still on them.
Did you notice when the woman was washing by hand that she placed that stack of salad or dessert plates in the water and only washed them on one side? If the food surface was dirty, the back side would be dirty also from being stacked. My mother would have had a fit and fallen back in it if she saw dishwashing like that. I guess it was that kind of pot washing that caused so many pans to have grease burned on the outside of them, that and washing them last in water where the soil and grease had overwhelmed the detergent in the cooling water. Ironically, it was people with pans like that who thought that a dishwasher would never be able to clean pans. We never washed dishes directly in the sink, either, always in a dishpan.
Did you notice when the woman was washing by hand that she placed that stack of salad or dessert plates in the water and only washed them on one side? If the food surface was dirty, the back side would be dirty also from being stacked. My mother would have had a fit and fallen back in it if she saw dishwashing like that. I guess it was that kind of pot washing that caused so many pans to have grease burned on the outside of them, that and washing them last in water where the soil and grease had overwhelmed the detergent in the cooling water. Ironically, it was people with pans like that who thought that a dishwasher would never be able to clean pans. We never washed dishes directly in the sink, either, always in a dishpan.
We used the Youngstown tonight
Modern detergents have progressed as I do not find bits of food on dishes after washing in properly operating vintage machines. The Youngstown like the Frigidaire has glasses on an angle which prevents bits of food from collecting on the top of glasses. The 180 degree water does tend to bake things onto modern plastics (we have very little that is plastic its blasphemous in a turquoise kitchen) but not on glass or ceramic ware. The 180 degree water is wonderful and during the winter when the air is dry, the lid pops up after the cycle and fills the kitchen with delicious moisture.
I really like the 10 minute cycle of the Youngstown. I put a switch on the heater so if I plan on using it I turn it on as we are making dinner. The machines have small enough capacity that there really isn't a reason to let dishes sit in the machine after it is loaded, normally just start it up. The Youngstown really can be convenient when you are baking and want clean and dry mixing bowls in a flash.
Modern detergents have progressed as I do not find bits of food on dishes after washing in properly operating vintage machines. The Youngstown like the Frigidaire has glasses on an angle which prevents bits of food from collecting on the top of glasses. The 180 degree water does tend to bake things onto modern plastics (we have very little that is plastic its blasphemous in a turquoise kitchen) but not on glass or ceramic ware. The 180 degree water is wonderful and during the winter when the air is dry, the lid pops up after the cycle and fills the kitchen with delicious moisture.
I really like the 10 minute cycle of the Youngstown. I put a switch on the heater so if I plan on using it I turn it on as we are making dinner. The machines have small enough capacity that there really isn't a reason to let dishes sit in the machine after it is loaded, normally just start it up. The Youngstown really can be convenient when you are baking and want clean and dry mixing bowls in a flash.
Wow, a complete cycle in 10 minutes. The Rinse/Hold cycle on my LG is 15 minutes!
don't get all twitterpated Eugene.
Oh and before I forget
Another thing I really like about the Youngstown that I forgot to mention is that since the tub is round and the racks have a slight space between them and the tub, you can drop in huge plates, griddles or baking sheets in that space. My other machines cannot hold items like that without removing the upper rack.
Granted I wouldn't want this machine to be my only dishwasher, but it does have its advantages over other styles.
Another thing I really like about the Youngstown that I forgot to mention is that since the tub is round and the racks have a slight space between them and the tub, you can drop in huge plates, griddles or baking sheets in that space. My other machines cannot hold items like that without removing the upper rack.
Granted I wouldn't want this machine to be my only dishwasher, but it does have its advantages over other styles.
Well, um, I can't speak for your other machines, but we used to do that with the Mobile Maid with the bow-tie impeller since the hooks for the top rack were on the front and back of the tank leaving the spaces on the sides of the top rack open to lower a cookie sheet. And, with the flat sides of the tank, saucers and stuff that went in the rack at the side of the tank could be loaded right up against the cookie sheet or either part of the broiler pan when they were placed there. I can also do this with my KD2P and, with its 3 section-top rack, I can even leave out a section or 2 or 3 if I need more space for tall things to stand up in the bottom rack like 4 cookie sheets or other large items.
With modern chlorinated detergents, I am not surprised that things wash well in the YT or the other old machines. When we started giving friends that commercial chlorinated dishwasher detergent in the 50s, they said it was like getting a new dishwasher, the way the cleaning improved. I think it is a lot like using modern beefed-up HE detergents in older front loaders, not that we found faults with the cleaning of our tumbler machines; we did not have a reflectometer or whatever they called it.
Didn't you love those detergent cans with the spouts for both laundry and dishwashing products? No concern about air tight containers there.
With modern chlorinated detergents, I am not surprised that things wash well in the YT or the other old machines. When we started giving friends that commercial chlorinated dishwasher detergent in the 50s, they said it was like getting a new dishwasher, the way the cleaning improved. I think it is a lot like using modern beefed-up HE detergents in older front loaders, not that we found faults with the cleaning of our tumbler machines; we did not have a reflectometer or whatever they called it.
Didn't you love those detergent cans with the spouts for both laundry and dishwashing products? No concern about air tight containers there.
laundryshark
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MP3 Conversion
After downloading one of the video formats from the Internet Archive site, I converted the hefty 89 MB .mp4 into a 20 MB mp3. I used to have a more compatible MPEG-1 file, but it was an enormous 363 MB. Got rid of that one to save file storage for the 20 MB mp3, which is not video, but for me, as long as it is not a
After downloading one of the video formats from the Internet Archive site, I converted the hefty 89 MB .mp4 into a 20 MB mp3. I used to have a more compatible MPEG-1 file, but it was an enormous 363 MB. Got rid of that one to save file storage for the 20 MB mp3, which is not video, but for me, as long as it is not a
laundryshark
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Cut Off?...
Don't know why that cut me off. Maybe a character limit?...Meant to finish by stating that as long as the audio file is not a "silent movie," it is fine with me. Have tested it and the converted file plays fine.--Laundry Shark
Don't know why that cut me off. Maybe a character limit?...Meant to finish by stating that as long as the audio file is not a "silent movie," it is fine with me. Have tested it and the converted file plays fine.--Laundry Shark
