The cycle is not rinse, wash, wash, rinse. It is spray, wash, wash, rinse, rinse. Like most machines with a cycle that begins with a wash, the part of the dispenser holding detergent for the first wash is uncovered. I don't know how fast the little bricks dissolve, but if they dissolve slowly, one might work for both 5 minute wash periods. But before you deal with that, you need an impeller. You also need to see if the motor is any good. HP dishwashers had shitty motors. I know where two are that have not run in years because the owners got tired of replacing the motors which were annoyingly loud when they did work.
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Thanks for clarifying that for me Tom.
I was thinking it was Spray, Wash, Rinse, Wash, Rinse. With how you described it, I can now see how those tablets might work out, but of course you are right that the impeller and other things need to be taken care of first. I had no idea that this machine was as inferior as all that with the motors. I'm disappointed in that as I was hoping this was a pretty tough unit. Still and all, at the end of the day, my purpose for this machine was predominately as a sentimental, attractive, built in, dish rack for hand washed dishes, so if it doesn't get restored and fully working, I can't say I'm too let down. What I think I may do now, is keep the 1965 Frigidaire Imperial Dishmobile that I was thinking I would sell if this Hotpoint were functional or could be expected to be lightly restored to become functional. The Dishmobile is a "low mileage" unit, and should do fine for the few times I would want a fully working DW. This info about the Hotpoint motors lack of reliability is helpful to know so thanks again Tom.
I was thinking it was Spray, Wash, Rinse, Wash, Rinse. With how you described it, I can now see how those tablets might work out, but of course you are right that the impeller and other things need to be taken care of first. I had no idea that this machine was as inferior as all that with the motors. I'm disappointed in that as I was hoping this was a pretty tough unit. Still and all, at the end of the day, my purpose for this machine was predominately as a sentimental, attractive, built in, dish rack for hand washed dishes, so if it doesn't get restored and fully working, I can't say I'm too let down. What I think I may do now, is keep the 1965 Frigidaire Imperial Dishmobile that I was thinking I would sell if this Hotpoint were functional or could be expected to be lightly restored to become functional. The Dishmobile is a "low mileage" unit, and should do fine for the few times I would want a fully working DW. This info about the Hotpoint motors lack of reliability is helpful to know so thanks again Tom.
New, replacement motors might prove more durable, but the originals and their replacements in the 50s and 60s were not durable. Part of the problem might have been the construction of these models. Hotoint hints at it darkly in the Detergent section of the owner's manual:
Warning: Do not use soap or any detergent other than those recommended above, as foam or suds may work their way into the motor, causing a motor failure. I think moisture managed to work its way into the motor anyway causing many failures.
HPs were fairly good dishwashers. They were the first to offer two washes with fresh detergent in each wash. They were early leaders, but were passed by other manufacturers as time went on. Sorta sad.
Warning: Do not use soap or any detergent other than those recommended above, as foam or suds may work their way into the motor, causing a motor failure. I think moisture managed to work its way into the motor anyway causing many failures.
HPs were fairly good dishwashers. They were the first to offer two washes with fresh detergent in each wash. They were early leaders, but were passed by other manufacturers as time went on. Sorta sad.
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Good to know that there might be replacements..
that aren't original equipment, leading to a return of the problems. If my motor is bad, I will check into what might work in it's place someday.
Thanks again for the helpful info.
that aren't original equipment, leading to a return of the problems. If my motor is bad, I will check into what might work in it's place someday.
Thanks again for the helpful info.
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WE MADE IT!!!!
Just giving a fast update to say that I made the trip up to Ohio and back on Saturday. "Harriet" and I made it home safe and sound. The seller was a real sweet person and very helpful. You really couldn't ask do to business with a nicer guy. I will post some pictures soon, but I'm still recovering from the day that started at 2:30 AM, on the road from 4:30-11 AM, then back on the road again from 2-8:30 PM. About 714 miles round trip. Those last few miles were a challenge to stay awake, but I kept thinking of "Harriet" in back and all the years I'd searched for one like her, so it helped. Pics to come soon and thanks again to all of you who have been so supportive and helpful with information.
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Just giving a fast update to say that I made the trip up to Ohio and back on Saturday. "Harriet" and I made it home safe and sound. The seller was a real sweet person and very helpful. You really couldn't ask do to business with a nicer guy. I will post some pictures soon, but I'm still recovering from the day that started at 2:30 AM, on the road from 4:30-11 AM, then back on the road again from 2-8:30 PM. About 714 miles round trip. Those last few miles were a challenge to stay awake, but I kept thinking of "Harriet" in back and all the years I'd searched for one like her, so it helped. Pics to come soon and thanks again to all of you who have been so supportive and helpful with information.
Robyn
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Oh, and before I forget....
The seller removed the impeller and ran the unit through all it's cycles. My motor and timer works FLAWLESSLY and it's quiet as can be! I was so excited to see and hear it run. The Calrod unit heated up as it should and even after just a minute, the interior was toasty warm. We didn't have any water connected to it, and so it may still show a leak after so many years. I can now finally clear up the mystery about the "square" on the top. I looked up inside, expecting to see the spray/fill thing and there as nothing but the square indent which creates the raised square bump on top. It was explained to me that in some areas, it was a code requirement that you have an "air gap" (like the fill tube in a toilet tank) to protect the city water systems from a possible back wash of dirty water from the unit. Sure enough, mine came from an area that required that, so I can assume that is why there was no top spray/fill on mine. There it was, plain as day the narrow copper tube that came up from the main inlet valve underneath, ran up the side and curved over a larger diameter pipe which comes down, has a trap then goes into the side wall, coming out low on the right inside wall. I can see how such a set up would be kinda hard to execute from the top. Now that I have gone back over the info I downloaded from the manuals/brochures section, I see that this unit was offered with a normal water supply, or with an air gap system to meet with certain codes. Of course not really knowing much about the mechanics of things, it didn't dawn on me until the seller showed me that mine was the air gap type. Pics to come tomorrow.
The seller removed the impeller and ran the unit through all it's cycles. My motor and timer works FLAWLESSLY and it's quiet as can be! I was so excited to see and hear it run. The Calrod unit heated up as it should and even after just a minute, the interior was toasty warm. We didn't have any water connected to it, and so it may still show a leak after so many years. I can now finally clear up the mystery about the "square" on the top. I looked up inside, expecting to see the spray/fill thing and there as nothing but the square indent which creates the raised square bump on top. It was explained to me that in some areas, it was a code requirement that you have an "air gap" (like the fill tube in a toilet tank) to protect the city water systems from a possible back wash of dirty water from the unit. Sure enough, mine came from an area that required that, so I can assume that is why there was no top spray/fill on mine. There it was, plain as day the narrow copper tube that came up from the main inlet valve underneath, ran up the side and curved over a larger diameter pipe which comes down, has a trap then goes into the side wall, coming out low on the right inside wall. I can see how such a set up would be kinda hard to execute from the top. Now that I have gone back over the info I downloaded from the manuals/brochures section, I see that this unit was offered with a normal water supply, or with an air gap system to meet with certain codes. Of course not really knowing much about the mechanics of things, it didn't dawn on me until the seller showed me that mine was the air gap type. Pics to come tomorrow.
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First pic
Ahhhhh. At last!
Ahhhhh. At last!
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The Inside Dope....
on the spray inlet situation.
on the spray inlet situation.
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The cool air gap thingy....
Might be common knowledge to folks on here but this was a new one on me.
Might be common knowledge to folks on here but this was a new one on me.
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First view of the Reversible Roll-R-Rack....
in it's upper position with the bottom hidden behind the frame. All stocked with my Aunt's same melmac dinnerware that I used to hand wash and put into her Hotpoint like this to air dry in the 1970's. (Pardon the burnt/blistered purple serving bowl. It is a "signature" of my late Aunt's often hectic life. Just lets me know that this was part of her original set versus all the replacement pieces I've added to her set over the years.)
in it's upper position with the bottom hidden behind the frame. All stocked with my Aunt's same melmac dinnerware that I used to hand wash and put into her Hotpoint like this to air dry in the 1970's. (Pardon the burnt/blistered purple serving bowl. It is a "signature" of my late Aunt's often hectic life. Just lets me know that this was part of her original set versus all the replacement pieces I've added to her set over the years.)
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Rack in the lower position.....
with it's bottom showing below the rack.
with it's bottom showing below the rack.
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The colorful swirl I remember from my youth...
I can see where this machine might not be the most efficient at getting everything as clean as later units with more standard racking, spray arms etc......but nothing beats that Hotpoint Swirl when you have colorful dinnerware to rack into it.
I can see where this machine might not be the most efficient at getting everything as clean as later units with more standard racking, spray arms etc......but nothing beats that Hotpoint Swirl when you have colorful dinnerware to rack into it.
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Top rack full...
Ahhh, the memories! And a look to the future when I someday get this installed in a dream kitchen.
Ahhh, the memories! And a look to the future when I someday get this installed in a dream kitchen.
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Close up of the lighted indicator dial....
looking forward to replacing this with a nice new one and getting a new bulb in behind it.
looking forward to replacing this with a nice new one and getting a new bulb in behind it.
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Might not actually add any real strength....
but I really love how extra strong this door design looks with that wall around it.
but I really love how extra strong this door design looks with that wall around it.
Fabulous, Dahling!
'Harriet' looks just grand, Robyn. Congratulations!!! The inside speckled tub looks amazing - I've never seen a dishwasher with an interior like this before. The test loads suit the machine perfectly, too. Thanks for sharing the latest pictures!
'Harriet' looks just grand, Robyn. Congratulations!!! The inside speckled tub looks amazing - I've never seen a dishwasher with an interior like this before. The test loads suit the machine perfectly, too. Thanks for sharing the latest pictures!
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So pretty!
I've got to agree, that colorful swirl in to die for! You've even made me rethink my "no MelMac" position.
Harriet is lovely! Waiting with bated breath for the test wash.
I've got to agree, that colorful swirl in to die for! You've even made me rethink my "no MelMac" position.
Harriet is lovely! Waiting with bated breath for the test wash.
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Thanks TurquoiseDude and Westingman123
You guys are so sweet, and your comments just ramp up my feelings about Miss Harriet. As far as Melmac dinnerware, I grew up with the two sets you see here. Windsor Melmac in the "Rainbow" offering with two place settings each in pink, yellow, blue and white. The various serving pieces for that come one each in those same colors like a yellow lidded sugar bowl, blue divided serving bowl, white cream pitcher, yellow platter etc. My Aunt bought those through Jewel-Tea Company in about 1959 or 60. The other set is Royalon's "Corsage" pattern and that was purchased through an offering in Safeway grocery stores in 1964. That set was pretty comprehensive as it has lilac colored melmac tumblers to match, place mats that match the flowered pattern on the plates, matching glassware that put the flowered pattern on clear glass drinkware etc. I have always loved bright, "happy" colors, so these were always a draw for me. Westingman123, I hope you will find a lovely, colorful set of Melmac for your first set. Some people love it, others hate it, but I would recommend determining how "tough" you need your set to be. I've seen some really thick, heavy pieces that should survive an atomic blast, but they are heavy and a bit clunky. I've also seen some really thin sets that aren't worth bothering with but there are so many beautiful colors and patterns that run the gamut between.
You guys are so sweet, and your comments just ramp up my feelings about Miss Harriet. As far as Melmac dinnerware, I grew up with the two sets you see here. Windsor Melmac in the "Rainbow" offering with two place settings each in pink, yellow, blue and white. The various serving pieces for that come one each in those same colors like a yellow lidded sugar bowl, blue divided serving bowl, white cream pitcher, yellow platter etc. My Aunt bought those through Jewel-Tea Company in about 1959 or 60. The other set is Royalon's "Corsage" pattern and that was purchased through an offering in Safeway grocery stores in 1964. That set was pretty comprehensive as it has lilac colored melmac tumblers to match, place mats that match the flowered pattern on the plates, matching glassware that put the flowered pattern on clear glass drinkware etc. I have always loved bright, "happy" colors, so these were always a draw for me. Westingman123, I hope you will find a lovely, colorful set of Melmac for your first set. Some people love it, others hate it, but I would recommend determining how "tough" you need your set to be. I've seen some really thick, heavy pieces that should survive an atomic blast, but they are heavy and a bit clunky. I've also seen some really thin sets that aren't worth bothering with but there are so many beautiful colors and patterns that run the gamut between.
Happy Hotpoint!
Hi Robyn,
I am very Happy you finally got your dream machine. I hope you are able to get it working one day soon. The MelMac really is the topper. Keep us posted and Best Of Luck with this Dream.
Peter
Hi Robyn,
I am very Happy
you finally got your dream machine. I hope you are able to get it working one day soon. The MelMac really is the topper. Keep us posted and Best Of Luck with this Dream.Peter
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Hey Robyn
To tell you the truth, my Aunt Mildred had a lovely set of MelMac in turquoise. I accidentally left a piece of it on the gas range, resulting in an unsightly scorch. I really caught it for that one, and at the time swore off MelMac forever.
Fast forward 30 years, and my darling Aunt has passed from Alzheimers. Going through the farm cabinets, what do I discover but that very plate? I swear, the woman kept EVERYTHING. At any rate, I really like your pastel set, and now will be "on the hunt."
By the way, welcome to the group of alliterative naming! Wanda Westinghouse resides in my kitchen, as you can see by my avatar. Oh, the things we applicance people do! LOL
To tell you the truth, my Aunt Mildred had a lovely set of MelMac in turquoise. I accidentally left a piece of it on the gas range, resulting in an unsightly scorch. I really caught it for that one, and at the time swore off MelMac forever.
Fast forward 30 years, and my darling Aunt has passed from Alzheimers. Going through the farm cabinets, what do I discover but that very plate? I swear, the woman kept EVERYTHING. At any rate, I really like your pastel set, and now will be "on the hunt."
By the way, welcome to the group of alliterative naming! Wanda Westinghouse resides in my kitchen, as you can see by my avatar. Oh, the things we applicance people do! LOL
