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on to the motor

all in all not in as bad a shape as i thought. top bearing seems great, very smooth silent rotation.

shaft is rusted, that's why impeller was stuck, gonna use my wire brush and drill on it and clean it up good.

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actually cleaned up pretty good

it's a sleeve bearing i was told by my service tech friend john. maybe that's better cause there was less to rust out from the leak.

going to clean it up with very fine steel wool and pack it full of grease. probably use wheel bearing grease.

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the bottom of the motor shaft

is kinda roughed up but i can smooth it down using steel wool, wire brush on drill and sand paper.

i think if i pack bearing good it will actually run pretty smoothly. but i could be wrong here.

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Lower Bearing....

NEVER EVER USE GREASE IN A SLEEVE BEARING!!!!!!!

Got your attention?

Good! Go to your nearest hardware store and get some 3-in-1 MOTOR OIL. It comes in a blue bottle, and is SAE20 that is detergent free.

If you install grease, thin oil, or engine motor oil, kiss that motor goodbye forever! Anything other than detergent-free oil will destroy that bearing in very short order. Something like Zoom spout oil wont' work here either since you're dealing with heat and torque from the motor.

Use the right stuff and that bearing will last just about forever.....use the wrong stuff and it'll last about 5-10 minutes!
 
so

the impeller puller/pusher whatever worked and i thought i would share it with you all in case you need to get an impeller off a stuck motor shaft! especially if need to do it without breaking a defunct impeller that would be next to impossible to find.

but if anyone knows of one please let me know, i would buy it.

i am going to modern parts house in parma ohio this week to get parts for this machine and an impeller for my modern maid impeller drive dishwasher.

larry told me he has a new motor, seal and lower impeller. so i can use this top impeller with those new parts and my mobile maid will run like new again!

but before i put those new parts on i am going to reassemble this pump using this seal, impellers, and motor and see if i can get it to work without leaking! i have a hunch i can!

hope you enjoy!

thanks for letting me share!

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gee

i have 3 in one oil that i have been using on all my dishwasher motors and a zoom spout that my friend matt gave me (he's everythingold) but i'll be honest i have packed bearings before with wheel bearing grease and never had a problem that i know of. i have also used 10/30 car oil to be honest but not lately.

so at least in the past year since i started collecting dishwashers in earnest i have always used 3 in one oil but for those motors i haven't, all i can say is hope they run awhile.

but i do appreciate the info as i have been asking the guys at home depot for ages what type oil to use on motors and never got a clear answer. your answer makes sense about the detergent free oil.

i am getting a new motor anyway but would like to try this one. i just wonder if 3 in one will be enough to pack that sleeve bearing since it is a bit worn and the shaft is a bit roughed up.

what is the problem with wheel bearing grease? is it due to additives in it? please inform me! also is there another heavier grease or oil besides 3 and one i can use in this case to add cushion to that worn bearing? thanks
 
just put the motor together again

filled lower bearing with 3 in one motor oil (as suggested above) and slapped it together. have not even worked on shaft with steel wool or sandpaper or wire brush and it turns very smoothly! i am amazed! gonna hook it up here and run it a second or two to see what it sounds like. will take it back apart to clean up shaft more when i get to store tomorrow to get the steel wool and sand paper.

i think this motor has some life in it yet
 
thanks

so the best thing for a sleeve bearing is to simnply give it a good dose of 3 in one motor oil?

that's what i did i this one.
 
Lesson on sleeve bearings - thanks!

Thanks for the lesson on sleeve bearings tristarcxl - I appreciate it! I have, in the past, used both grease and car motor oil on sleeve bearings on a couple of motors that were on their last legs. I won't be doing that again!

Andrew S.
 
packed that little motor

with 3 in one motor oil (blue can) last nite and started it up, purrs like a kitten! guess water leakage did not hurt it after all. still picking up a new motor tomorrow when i go to parma to see larry.

really appreciate the definative answer on what to oil with, it will be 3 in one motor oil all the way! the best lube around!
 
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