1991 Kenmore DD portable

[thomasortega]

By the way, this new 11kg Brastemp Ative has exactly the same tub as the 5kg Brastemp Mondial.

The machine that has the capacity rating most close to the real capacity is only the Electrolux 15.2Kg Acquajet, recently launched. It's real capacity is up to 14.8kg (400g mistake)

 

[thomasortega]

Whirlpool Cabrio, if launched in Brazil would be a 21kg capacity washer...
that's more than ridiculous, but there's nothing we can do.

My recommendations to everyone is use the brain and ignore the capacity rating when loading the machine. If there's no rollover, you can hear the motor being forced or the agitator bending, MAYBE, the machine is overloaded LOL.

 

[davek]

21kg?! I believe that I agree with you about their standard being bad. Good luck cramming 21kg of stuff in the tub.

 

[thomasortega]

LOL
maybe we'll have to sit on the lid to keep it closed.

 

[brastemp]

"By the way, this new 11kg Brastemp Ative has exactly the same tub as the 5kg Brastemp Mondial."

Thomas, you get a mistake again.

Brastemp clean was a 22" cabinet - Cabrio have 24" whit tall tub inside and different agitator!

 

[brastemp]

Not Cabrio - Ative.

 

[davek]

Here's a picture of the Consul-built Kenmore portable sold today. It probably holds more than my Kenmore does, and it's both taller and weighs less.

 

[davek]

And the obligatory money shot.

 

[thomasortega]

It'1s the Brazilian Consul!!!!

This machine was great! (Not as Brastemp Mondial).

The difference I can see is th not transparent lid.

The Brazilian version had an acrylic instead of that grey "smile" on the lid.

Unfortunately this model isn't available anymore here in Brazil.

I saw these machine sin argentina too, sold as "Eslabon de Lujo", other Whirlpool local brand. There it has hot/cold fill, while in Brazil there's only the cold fill and any option for hot wash.

 

[davek]

Eslabon del Lujo

I looked at their site. Most of their models now are Brastemp V-design as you show above. EdL shows origin of the machine on their site, most top loaders are from Brazil, and the front loaders are made in Argentina. There was one top loader from Czech Republic.

No big Whirlpools to be had anymore down there?

 

[thomasortega]

Here in Brazil we had a big Whirlpool "Brastemp Super Capacidade" a few years ago. nothing more than an average American Whirlpool top loader.
It wasn't a success because of it's design (totally square, without glass lid) and very expensive because it was imported.

A few years ago the "Duet" was launched here in Brazil. not the same American Duet, but the Maytag one.

Now the Brastemp TOL is the "Duet Black". It seems to be a good machine (Maytag Epicz) but the price is more than ridiculous. It costs R$ 7000,00 (aprox. USD 3050), while it's competitor, the Electrolux Ecoturbo (Frigidaire Affinity) is sold for less than R$ 3000 (USD1300)

In a few months we'll have here in Brazil the American Electrolux front loaders (this machine was 100% developed here in Brazil for the american market)
The Brazilian version will have the LCD, but will be white.

Electrolux also plan to launch a Brazilian top loader in the U.S. the top 15. it fills with proper water lever, but can be considered HE because it has a function that increases the spin rinse and eliminate the deep rinse. Here in brazil it's an option (you have to select this option every time you want to use it), but in the US it will be inverted. (You have to select every time you DON'T want to do it.)
The american version will not have the 2nd rinse button, but will have the mini basket.

Also, the maximum water level won't the same as the Brazillian version.

The price will be OUTRAGEOUS!

 

[davek]

Frigidaire/Electrolux top 15

When I see it, I'll let you know about the price.

 

[jdinstl]

Dave,

Did you ever get the agitator/fabric softener situation resolved?

I just bought, this past Saturday, the new Kenmore portable you posted above, to replace my leaking purgatory-to-repair World Washer.

I am wondering if the agitator from my now bits 'n pieces World Washer would work for you? It's a straight-vane agitator with the fabric softener dispenser on top. It's 18.5 inches top to bottom with fabric softener dispenser attached, flairing to 13 inches at the bottom. The set screw is about 3.5-4 inches from the bottom.

If it will work, you can have it.

John

 

[davek]

Cool

Mine uses a two piece agitator, so I doubt the whole thing would work, but if you would, pop the dispenser out of the agitator. Does it have a filter attached? If so, then it wouldn't fit anyway. If not, I would like to try the dispenser only. The dispenser top of the world washer usually has cross-bars over the fill hole and resembles the low-profile dispenser on my big WP. If it's that dispenser, I'd like to give it a try. Just email me your findings-address in profile.

Out of curiosity, was the new washer still on sale sunday? It was $511 last week and is usually $640. Did you get at least that good a deal? It's a stylish little washer. Before I bought my used set, I was looking at Haier. Did you consider them?

 

[jdinstl]

Alas...

...the lint filter and stem are firmly attached to the dispenser. Drat!

What you saw was the base deal. They knocked off a bit from that and added free delivery.

I did check out Haier...but I must admit, what sold me on the Kenmore was seeing that straight-vane agitator. I knew it did a good job in the World Washer. My next question was about spin speed, and of course the sales guy didn't know. So I took a chance and got it. Spins seem long and fast, and things come out just like out of the WW, saving load on the dryer.

John

 

[jdinstl]

By the way...

...I hope a redundant pic is ok...as I posted this on my World Washer Uh Oh thread...but like Dave says, the inside of the new Kenmore/Consul/Whirlpool, whatever is not correct on the Sears page.

Here's the inside of mine. And no, the basket was not crushed like a beer can then straightened out. Flash and reflection from my camera, I think.

Bleach dispenser lower left, fabric softener dispenser topping the agitator, lint filter underneath, and detergent drawer open. I kinda like the detergent drawer Not exactly Norge Dispenso-mat, but fun nevertheless...

John

 

[jdinstl]

Argh...I should have scrolled back a bit..

Dave already posted a money shot. My apologies, folks.

John

 

[davek]

Glad you got a good deal. $637 is too much, but >500 puts it within spitting distance of the Haier Target sells for $300 by the time you figure about $100 for shipping.

 

[jdinstl]

Well..

...I really didn't want to shell out that kind of money. But a certain set of neighbors in this building have abused my (and everyone elses) laundry equipment downstairs. And where I live, the laundromats contain some of the skankiest people known to mankind. The little World Washer sold me on having a portable in the apartment.

Another WW did come up on Craigslist -- for $300. I figured I'd just bite the bullet and go a bit more for new, even though it didn't have the versatility of the WW.

I would guestimate this one one is about 6" taller than the WW. And 2.1ft is more than double the Haier's .91 capacity. Spin is important to me as well because of the chinsy dryer.

Which leads to another dilemna...

Now I need to paint the chinsy dryer. It's bad enough to be a mismatched set, but bright white washer near dingy white dryer. If it were Frigidaire, it'd be a total Filter-Flo Fashion Faux Pas! Especially being here on AW, where people have Westinghouse Laundromats in such top condition, you'd expect Betty Furness to tap you on the shoulder.

BTW, saw your YouTube video. I may need to rethink my position on safety latches...the rollover on your machine could be deadly! I wish I could have got a deal like you did, but ued stackables/portables are rare as hens teeth here. And the ones that do come in, I am told are suitable only for a landfill.

John

 

[thomasortega]

Somebody please tell me how can I bring one of these old Kenmores to Brazil!!!!!