2018 Maytag vs. SQ

[wft2800]

My 2005 Miele W2240 spins before and after all rinses. So did the old 410/412/416 and 420/421 Deluxe machines of the 60s and early 70s. Ditto the old AEG Lavamats.

 

[henene4]

That's just plain wrong

The 410 did not spin before each rinse:


Neither did the 416:


Neither the 420:


Neither did the Lavamat 803:


Neither did the De Luxe Electronic:

 

[speedqueen]

So in the regard of effective rinsing without excessive water usage the old US Bendix and Westys had their European FL cousins beat! A suds kill, a spin, a rinse, another spin, and another rinse and a final spin.

 

[wft2800]

Henene4 - I shall have to look up some more videos, but I've definitely seen 420s and 421s that spun before every rinse, ditto the old AEG Lavamat Nova/Regina/Deluxe with the backlit controls...

 

[foraloysius]

A Miele 420S never existed. You had the 420, the 421 and the 421S. AFAIK, none of them did a spin after every rinse.

 

[foraloysius]

Here is the cycle chart for the 420.

 

[wft2800]

Yeah, I used a small 's' to indicate plural, not a suffix - 420 was called "De Luxe" I believe? Then there was the 520 - was that just a rebadge? And the 421 seemed to go through a few changes, different doors for a start.

 

[brisnat81]

My W423 from 1977 doesn’t spin after the wash or first 2 rinses. It only spins after the last 3.

The W723 from the 1990s also doesn’t spin until the last few rinses either.

I’m not 100% sure but it was only when they went to 2-3 rinses in the 1900 or 2000 series that they began spinning after every rinse. That was the late 90s early 2000s

 

[foraloysius]

The 520 (5kg) was a bigger version of the 420 (4kg). The 421 was the revised version of the 420 and the 421S the revised version of the 421. The 421 had a door handle, the 421S had an electronic door opener.

 

[wft2800]

Right! I've gone through a bunch of videos, and it does seem the old Mieles generally have a cool-down/suds-kill rinse or two before the first spin. This AEG Lavamat Bella seems not to:

Anyway, the thread has drifted a LONG way... the question is, when will SQ wake up to the reality that their machines just aren't good enough any more, and that they need to liven up their ideas in order to retain sales and meet regulations?

 

[foraloysius]

Thanks for the video!

It's a perfect example why many other brands didn't spin immediately.

Back to Speed Queen indeed and Maytag ofcourse.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

speed queen...

What were they thinking? They seemed to be good competitors from the beginning. I'd rather keep my lg and lg built kenmore elite front load pair. Thank you very much.