3 Speeds On A 2 Speed Direct Drive
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To my point in the video about the extra plug on the 3 speed motors: they'll be two wires, one white/violet, one white/orange. Then a third wire (violet/white from the factory) going FROM the motor through the harness plug up to feed the switch.
So simple, yet brilliant!
Things like this have me quipping "Whirlpool, you're to complicated for your own good" This exact method at little added cost would've radically improved these washers and reduced clothing wear. At minimum a two position switch labelled regular and hand-wash.
Things like this have me quipping "Whirlpool, you're to complicated for your own good" This exact method at little added cost would've radically improved these washers and reduced clothing wear. At minimum a two position switch labelled regular and hand-wash.
So now you can get an extra slow spin speed like KA machine s ? That's pretty cool.
3 Speed Direct Dr. washers
Whirlpool introduced the first three speed motor on their 1964 whirlpool imperial Mark 12 and on the 1964 lady Kenmore.
The extra low speed was a real boom for washing extremely delicate things. Most other manufacturers followed suit on their top-of-the-line machines and briefly at least had a three speed washer. I think only Maytag never did this, and of course, Maytag with one of the harshest washing machines ever built half of their machines with only a one speed motor And did an intermittent agitation, which is not the same thing.
Chet as usual you just make up crap. This was not a cheap feature to put on. Do you have any idea how expensive a three speed motor is, and whirlpool would have to get credit because they built far more three speed motor washing machines than any other manufacturer ever, but it was not an inexpensive feature to have. It wasn’t simple to do.
The good news is today with variable speed three phase motors in both front load and top load machines. You can get extremely gentle washing. The VMW style washers are extremely gentle when you use the delicate settings so there’s no longer any need to go to the expense of an expensive eight pole split phase motor anymore, I think the last washing machine sold for home use in the United States is the Speed Queen TC5 that still has a four and six pole motor split phase motor, bear in mind. These older split phase motors were extremely inefficient, and not that durable with their cheap sleeve bearings, motors in washing machines today will outlast the split phase motors by several times over.
John L
Whirlpool introduced the first three speed motor on their 1964 whirlpool imperial Mark 12 and on the 1964 lady Kenmore.
The extra low speed was a real boom for washing extremely delicate things. Most other manufacturers followed suit on their top-of-the-line machines and briefly at least had a three speed washer. I think only Maytag never did this, and of course, Maytag with one of the harshest washing machines ever built half of their machines with only a one speed motor And did an intermittent agitation, which is not the same thing.
Chet as usual you just make up crap. This was not a cheap feature to put on. Do you have any idea how expensive a three speed motor is, and whirlpool would have to get credit because they built far more three speed motor washing machines than any other manufacturer ever, but it was not an inexpensive feature to have. It wasn’t simple to do.
The good news is today with variable speed three phase motors in both front load and top load machines. You can get extremely gentle washing. The VMW style washers are extremely gentle when you use the delicate settings so there’s no longer any need to go to the expense of an expensive eight pole split phase motor anymore, I think the last washing machine sold for home use in the United States is the Speed Queen TC5 that still has a four and six pole motor split phase motor, bear in mind. These older split phase motors were extremely inefficient, and not that durable with their cheap sleeve bearings, motors in washing machines today will outlast the split phase motors by several times over.
John L
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John, I'm talking about having a single pole double throw switch vs a 6 position 8 contact speed switch with numerous series parallel timer contacts and associated wiring. The OP found a simpler, cheaper and more economical way of getting a hand-wash cycle out of a direct drive washing machine without any extra timer contacts, extra switches, or exceeding just two extra wires. Whirlpool's complex 3 speed scheme literally doubled the timer and harness electrically.
It would be nice if you could read in between the lines instead of disparaging the OP's accomplishments. The OP is the common sense brain this world is badly in need of.
Like it or not the OP found a simple way of getting a genuine hand-wash cycle out of a direct drive that Whirlpool never bothered selling. Whirlpools extra cost and complexity on top of an already pricey 3 speed motor kept a genuine handwash feature out of many homes.
Funny you bring up intermittent agitation not being the same thing when that was Whirlpools way of getting hand-wash out of many two speed washers. Thank you for admitting that Whirlpool was wrong, yet again.
Also funny Maytag went from being gentlest washer a year ago now being the most rough washer.
John, I'm talking about having a single pole double throw switch vs a 6 position 8 contact speed switch with numerous series parallel timer contacts and associated wiring. The OP found a simpler, cheaper and more economical way of getting a hand-wash cycle out of a direct drive washing machine without any extra timer contacts, extra switches, or exceeding just two extra wires. Whirlpool's complex 3 speed scheme literally doubled the timer and harness electrically.
It would be nice if you could read in between the lines instead of disparaging the OP's accomplishments. The OP is the common sense brain this world is badly in need of.
Like it or not the OP found a simple way of getting a genuine hand-wash cycle out of a direct drive that Whirlpool never bothered selling. Whirlpools extra cost and complexity on top of an already pricey 3 speed motor kept a genuine handwash feature out of many homes.
Funny you bring up intermittent agitation not being the same thing when that was Whirlpools way of getting hand-wash out of many two speed washers. Thank you for admitting that Whirlpool was wrong, yet again.
Also funny Maytag went from being gentlest washer a year ago now being the most rough washer.
Steven, thanks so much for documenting this and making the video. I might just have to do this to my 1974 LK 2-speed washer!
