30*c Ariel Wash Results

[aquarius1984]

Well while ive been posting other stuff I heard the Hotpoint do its WWWHHHOOOOSSSSHHHHHH upto 500 and its time to post the results of my "experiment with Ariel at 30*c,

The first load was a coloured synthetic load of workshirts and trousers that were really filthy and some PJs.
Washed in 1 Ariel Colour and Style Liquitab and 1 cap of Yellow Conc Lenor

My work trousers were covered in some oil, and white chalky muck from sitting on the floor at work. also my trouser knees had some crud on from kneeling on the floor.
workshirts covered in random everyday muck and some pasta sauce/curry sauce from where ive missed my mouth at breaktimes lol.

As the Hotpoint does not have a 30*c option ive had to select 40*c Acrylics and Economy wash to give a temp of about 30*c.

The rinse water was clear by the last rinse before softener intake although the wash was sudsy but on a par with my usual Persil.

Theyve come out as clean as my beloved Persil Colour Liquigel
if not slightly better.......... ok so im eating Humble Pie now!

HOWEVER!

The Real Test is to see if i get any rashes or irritations, if i dont i will buy Ariel C&S Liquitabs on a regular basis mixing with Persil etc.
And whether clothes will eventually feel greasy after a while due to build up of grease not washed away with warmer water etc.

The scent of the Lenor is a nice change and one I could get used to.

Time for the Whites at 30*c now! post results later!

Nick

 

[aquarius1984]

I forgot to say

I did not use super rinse on purpose with this load and it was clear by rinse 2, on a cycle that rinses only 3 times incl the softener. with Persil liquigel the rinse would be resonably clear but that was with super rinse selected.

But like i say its the residue and irritation while wearing the garments that will decide for me. Persil never irritates me even at the ok rinse clarity level.

Nick

 

[aquarius1984]

The Whites are out but im going to think about my comments f

Somethings not right

Nick

 

[aquarius1984]

Ok ive had time to think and a little sleep too lol was not a happy bunny earlier.

I washed my second load of White towels, grimy cleaning cloths, t shirts and some bedding on 60*c Cottons with the econonomy button selected again to give a temperature of about 30*c, 2 Ariel Bio tabs and a cap of Lenor.

One of the t shirts was a designery type that i had managed to get some Corned beef hash down.
I cut my hand the other day and managed to get some blood on a pillowcase which went in.
An oven cloth covered in grease and some other cleaning cloths with general grime on.

The towels were just used with no staining on them.

I really wanted Ariel to prove me wrong in the cleaning stakes and,
All i can say is what came out of the machine was disgusting.
The Ariel had removed the blood from the pillowcases and the cleaning cloths were ok, clean to a general eye but not to my ususal standards of white. after about 10 washes i guess they would be grey.

The t shirt had most of the stain still there and is subsequently back in the wash with the cloths.

Funnily the towels that went in (my housemates) came out a shade whiter than they were. so i guess its not all that bad.

The wash wasnt as sudsy as Persil NB but come rinse time i had fun.

Didnt select Super Rinse again and was presented with 2 suds locked rinses at low level, so on with super rinse and I reset the dial so it would do 2 rinses and 1 last softener rinse at high level. the rinse was clear at the end of the actual rinsing thank god but its not good for those who leave their washers and dont realise the laundry has not rinsed properly. The Lenor gave a nice touch again as a change.

Just need to wear my t shirt when its had the usual boil with Ariel and cleaned properly to see if i get an irritation and to assess Ariels Capability as a boil tablet. Unfortunately i wont be washing whites at 30*c again it just does not cut the mustard here in the UK by the looks of it.
If id of used 3 tabs the rinsing would really have been an issue further still but I guess slightly cleaner washing, and whilst Persil NB cleans fantastically it does not present any major rinse problems at the 160ml doseage.

Not too fussed on switching my whites detergent i think in the case. Im sticking with my Persil, it works out cheaper and IMHO does a better job.

Nick

 

[nickuk]

Very interesting, this.

For starters, pushing `eco' on a Hottie on a 60 setting will probably get you a wash hotter than 30 degrees, I will estimate 50 degrees. It fills from the Hot line only on a 60 program, not a mixed fill like a 40 cycle. So actually, your whites which were cleaned fairly poorly did get quite a hot wash.

I have also noticed the weird thing with Ariel whereby on a fairly dirty load you can get little sudsing during wash, but the suds can go crazy during rinse cycle. This would certainly be obvious on those Hotpoints bless `em, not too good getting rid of suds IMO.

FWIW, I think you're better off sticking with Persil. BTW, if you do get skin irritation, point the finger of blame at one full cap of yellow Lenor in the final rinse before you do at the Ariel! Yikes! Maybe lose the Lenor, see if the irritation goes.....then you'll see if it's the Ariel or the Lenor or both that give you grief.

I have used a pungent French `Soupline' tonight and the whole of this room where I'm typing stinks like a tart's brothel. Lovely.

Nick

 

[aquarius1984]

Nick

I did actually turn the combi boiler off at the wall after a bit of hot fill. The door of the machine was warm but not as high as say 40*c.

It may have been cooler but i think i judged the temp about right but without being able to open the door and stick a thermometer in (which is what i wanted to do. GRRR door wont open with a certain water level).

Yeah like you say the Lenor may be a problem as the odd time ive run out of comfort ive had no choice but to rob some of mums Lenor Stayfreash and have come out in a rash but i wondered if it was just that particular scent being so strong.

But I guess if anything ive proved to myself I shouldnt get stuck in my ways!!! lol.

Soupline???? hehe at work every night this week ive been doing household YAY!!! and without fail each night ive dropped a bottle of Comfort and got it up my trousers on my shoes etc, now as much as I love the stuff its not funny having neat stuff choking you.

One question though Nick, (would be worth hearing Jons take too) I have chocolate brown bathroom towels (large set inc facecloths etc) etc and although they are a deep colour they get washed on a 60*c anyway and run a fair bit. Neccessitates washing the whole lot at once for economical reasons.

Should I use Colour Care or Non Bio powder? Only had the towels for 4 weeks and although they dont smell while ive been using Persil CC LIQ I cant help but feel i should be using a bleach containing detergent.

I know askin what seem like daft questions but the mind boggles..... lol

Nick

 

[nickuk]

Not a daft question at all.

And one I don't really know the answer to.

I would wash on a quick 40 cycle with a colour detergent, probably Ariel Colour liquid. The towels will still run and fade to an extent, but they will run less quickly and look newer for longer with a colour detergent.

After five years or whatever when all the colour has run out it won't matter so much what you use, the oxy bleach won't affect them any more since it only really robs loose dye,but given that they are deep brown, I would still be tempted to use colour stuff because they won't benefit at all from optical brightener.

I also think that snapping towels in to the dryer and tumbling cooler helps towels to stay fluffier (though it takes ages and I don't always do it) especially since I rarely use FS on towels.

Of course there are folk here who say towels don't stay fresh for as long with a quick warm wash with colour powder, so if you try this out and find that this is the case for you also, you may want to ask yourself what your priority is.

Decisions decisions!

BTW FWIW My kid and wife are allergic to any scent of Lenor even the white one (now Fairy) :-( so when I have a `Lenor' day I have to be selective what I use it for. My wife can tolerate any detergent but not Lenor. As a young child she was very allergic to Ariel (but I suspect they weren't rinsing properly etc, family not as well informed as us lot about laundry. Luke is allergic to all P/G powder and tabs and sadly persil gel tabs if not double rinsed. Best system for him is the ole Persil non bio tabs and comfort pure but i do get a bit bored of them sometimes even though i would say that's our family detergent of choice. Ariel Colour liquid is the second staple detergent - rinses well, no allergies, good pretreater. Hate the smell though.

Off to school now - au revoir!

Nick

 

[aquarius1984]

your talking a foreign language lol

oh how i hated french at school, did german instead lol. But having said that i did Kitchen French at college and loved it. Of course ive forgotten every word! Although i can recite recipe ingredients for Duck with mango sauce and sweet chilli noodles lol. Dont ask for the method. I cant tell the difference from my mijouter and melange anymore! Nick

 

[aquarius1984]

Towels on 60*c

Well im with Jon on the stale towel smell.
Mums towels get done in the LG on a high water level synthetic wash at 40*c and they stink.
No amount of Tesco Geranium and Cedar FS will counteract this no matter how hard she tries lol.

Reason for this?

now mum has a washer with a time remaining indicator she sees any cycle longer than 1 hour 20 as a waste of electricity! shes not the best at religiously buying quality branded detergents either, only if they are on offer.
Safeway Cyclon Non Bio usually.(oops meant "Morrisons" they kept that tradename)

Im not keen on Softener in towels either as I like a good rough hard towel that dries in a flash.

Perversely towels only go in the dryer if im desperate, I prefer to dry them on a hot radiator for extra hardness lol.
obviously on the washing line in good weather.

Whereas in the Hotpoint she used to give them a 60*c and they never had odour problems.

I just wonder if the lack of bleach etc will contribute to this too. im not too fussed on the colour fading, they all get washed in the same load so they will fade at the same rate IMO.

Nick

 

[newwave1]

aquarius84 nick-lol not just my mother then! When we got the WMA60 (our first machine with time saver) the button never got a break when my mum was usin it lol. then we moved to this house and i blagged a new AEG out the deal, tho i miss that hotpoint. she never ever ever ever uses a standard cycle. forever pressin the quick wash button. Then she blames me askin if my old machines were makin the towels smell, i laugh and say i used the aeg! lol.

Ariel is a nightmare for rinsing. When i "turned down to 30" i washed four pairs of jeans and the suds went crazy! i did this on a standard low level rinse to see how bad it would be. My guess was right i had to rerinse everythin for the sake of my skin!! I like using ariel though. So normally i use it with Rinse + or in one of my high rinse water machines without any major issues.

My dads extremely sensitive to detergent and the minute he itches he complains that i've been messin around with different detergents lol.

Nickuk- On your zanussi it only does 2rinses with quick wash selected and without super rinse doesnt it? Do you think that with persil non-bio its sufficent. i left it on standard for abit because i like the high extraction interm spins. I don't know wheather to set Rinse + again incase my dad starts itchin again! lol

 

[aquarius1984]

Mums eh?

they always want whatever they want then complain about it. My mum was like. . I want an A rated wash but i want it as quick as poss. What! Like using a quicker than normal cycle on a modern machine will compare to the 60 of the old hotpoint. Looks like im havin a dumb rant again. Lol. Like she also drives a Laguna but keeps having near smashes and blames other drivers! Never happened when she was driving a megane, but its not her fault hmm Lol Nick

 

[cbosch]

Temperature washes

I like to do towles on at elast a 60 more often than not they get done at 90. A programme that takes two hours to run but they smell great when they come out of the machine. Folk who run quick low temperatrue washes don't know what they are missing with a good long hot wash. Whites will nevere have been whiter

 

[aquarius1984]

Ive been wearing my work uniform that was washed in Ariel Colour and Stlye liquitabs for the past 14 hours and I can honestly say ive not recieved any irritation whatsoever.
Im really shocked, im thinkin the Lenor (which im usually allergic to) has had some nastys extracted from the formula.
Very odd.

Im not expecting it to come straight away but when mum used Daz liquid and cant remeber exactly but im sure it was Blue Lenor on some of my stuff a couple of months ago (without tellin me) it only took 4 hours of wearing the clothes and i was popping Benadryl like candy.

Im going to risk a load of underwear and socks, and jeans with some Ariel C&S and see the outcome.

Well anyway like us blokes need a reason to scratch our bits
"Onslo" style anyway LMAO (joking)

Must run to answer the phone..... Boo-kay! residence, master of the laundry speaking! PMSL

Nick

 

[aquarius1984]

done it!

it feels kinda weird putting a load of resonably soiled washing and selecting Economy wash as standard on coloureds.

As is using a liquitab which i wasnt really keen on, even the Persil ones.

Nick

 

[chestermikeuk]

Brown Towels!!!

Nick

I`d wash at 60d on a quick wash with colour care powder and add 2 desertspoons of salt for a dye fix....

Mike

 

[carlstock]

My Mum does at she is told! ;-)

(Only joking! She does wash stuff properly, though. )

 

[carlstock]

Sheridan Bucket ("Boo-kay")

Hi, Nick.

Oh, sorry – I meant “Sheridan”. ;-)

 

[newwave1]

I've just bought myself some new ariel with the "turn down to 30" logo....just now i've used it in my servis quartz, with the bio option selected. which splits heating into 2 halves...gentle tumbling heated to 30 and washes for about 10-15 minutes. and the it heats again to 60 thereafter. results from this were fantastic. and rinsing was good too.

as i looked along the programme options i saw cool wash...and then had a read through my manual...."an economy programme that washes at 30degrees and extends the wash time by four times its orginal length..."

so. i've decided that when the load is ready to go to try this option with my new ariel bio tabs....and i'll let you know the results mebbe with a piccie too

D

 

[aquarius1984]

Mike i never though of adding salt, thankyou.

Il stick with the colour products for a while and see what happens, although after id posted the above I tried a load in with the Ariel Bio tabs on 60*c.
did a great job but a bugger to rinse as you can guess. 8 super rinses in total they had.

Mike did you get the email I sent you?

and also any idea where your water supply is from?
I believe, although my dad told me this a few years ago our water supply comes from Lake Bala, is this the same for Chester?
In which case im wonderin if we have soft water and not medium as Ariel say on the pack.

Darren

I never thought about Bio options etc although i dont have one on the Hottie Mum has an Intensive button on the LG which adds about 20 mins to the wash,
Naturally it heats "BIO STYLE" anyway with it being cold fill but on washes 60plus - 90 whatver (cottons, synth, bedding, baby clothes, bulky, and boil care) it distributes with the wash water a la Hotpoint Powerstream style. maybe this would help the Ariel? but its not a good machine for rinsing even with Intensive Rinse selected so im not trying it.

Does anyone have any idea what Ariel are calling a 30*c whites wash?

1)Do they mean using a 30*c standard cotton wash i.e. the step down from your usual 40*c non colurfast cycle like Zanussis have. Zanussis alter the wash time on cottons depending on the temp. my ZWF1440w did a 40*c in 2hr10 but the 30*c was done in 1hr50. (rinse kicked in with 45 mins remaining on all these cycles)

or a 40*c NON COL cycle and reducing the vari temp (if you have one) to 30* based on using a machine that keeps the same washtime regardless of temp?

2)setting the 95*c cycle which has a set wash time regardless of temp and using a temp reduce option i.e. Say an Indesit (with clicking dial) with vari temp.

3)or for older machines the 30*c whatever wash you have i.e. silks.

Im not too impressed with Ariel on 95*c in the Hottie either. it cleans ok but the cost of the tabs outweighs any benefits i can see, and i can also see some grey whites over long distances of time.

Pack of 12 washes is £2.46 here (tescos).
A box of Persil NB powder 15 washes is 2.50.
Ariel powder 950g which smells way too strong is £2.68 or something off the top of me head!
Scandalous!

Cant wait for your results Darren!

Nick