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Curious, my grandmother mentioned that she remembered when people would use Tide for everything, laundry, dishes, mopping floors, bathroom cleaning, the works. After looking around online, it seems most older detergents had instructions on the box for all these things. Mopping etc didn't suprise me, as even I have mopped with laundry detergent in a pinch, and its great for the bathtub, but dishes? She said it did a good job, and left no residue on dishes, so why did we stop doing this?
 
The things I am willing to do for curiosity's sake...

Ok, first off, I absolutely hate doing dishes by hand, which is why I own a dishwasher. But, curiosity got the best of me, so.. I took all the dirty dishes from today out of the dishwasher, rummaged around until I located my dish drainer, filled the sink with hot water, and added dash of FOCA with phosphates. Plenty of suds, and no scrubbing. Everything came clean much easier than it ever did with Dawn, even the casserole dish and the skillet. I can see why people used laundry detergent for dishes years ago, Dawn or Joy can't touch that sort of ease in cleaning. But I also see why they stopped, my hands were very dry after, as if all the oils had been stripped out. I guess thats why my gramma always wore rubber gloves to do dishes..
 
Indeed,

that is precisely where that particular expression came from. Look at some of the ads for "new, improved" dishwashing detergents in the late 50's and 60's. Nearly every one mentions how gentle their brand is on the lady's hands.

Remember Madge the manicurist?

K
 
I remember my grandfather in Mississippi alway used Tide to wash dishes, as did some of my other relatives.

Some foodservice establishments use Institutional Tide for soaking pots & pans in addition to mopping their kitchen floors, and there is also a powdered detergent called Cream Suds (P&G) meant for dishes and general cleaning. I've seen both at GFS.

When I was very young we didn't have a dishwasher, and I remember my mom wearing rubber gloves while doing dishes.
 
The Complaint Regarding Wash Day/Dish Pan Red Hands

Predates "detergents" by generations.

As one has been saying elsewhere all soaps are alkaine in solution with water, some more harsher (highly basic) than others. Hot water increases the power of soap but it also helps contributing to the drying of skin immersed in such solutions. It was the removal of protective oils combined with high pH that literally destroyed the hands of women or anyone else charged with doing the washing up/cleaning. To add insult to injury sodium carbonate/washing soda came along and that kicked up things a notch.

It was possible to make mild soaps that didn't cause so much havoc with milady's hands, but they often didn't clean as well and were therefore charged with danity laundry and or light household cleaning. Eventually soaps for household use broke down along the lines of heavy duty (Fels, Kirkman's, Octogon, Sunlight), and light cleaning (Lux, Ivory, P&G White Soap and the rest of white or lighter coloured soaps).

The first detergents could be used for any sort of general cleaning as well as laundry, one only has to read vintage boxes to find instructions. This trend continued right up through the 1970's or so when the basic formula's of surfactants, water softeners et al were juiced up with enzymes, OBA's, bleaches and the rest of the chemical cocktails one finds in modern laundry products. That being said there is nothing stopping anyone from using "Tide" or any other laundry detergent for dishes, just make sure to rinse well afterwards.

One important discovery was sodium lauryl sulfate and it's cousins on which "light duty" detergents and later personal cleaning products were based. Dreft, Vel, Trend, Woolite and the lot were all based upon these new "miracle" chemicals as would the new invention to follow, dishwashing liquid.

The beauty of SLS based detergents is that one can blend other surfactants (cationic) and or chemicals to offset the drying nature of the fomer whilst also imparting skin moisturising properties. This is where you begin to see the separation of manual dishwashing from laundry products.

Back in the day when one or perhaps two types of soap did 99% of the cleaning around the home (including personal hygiene)it would take heavy lifting to get Madame to purchase another product just for washing dishes. Same was true after laundry detergents came along but as lifestyles changed so did habits. While extremely alkaline detergents are great or attacking grease laden dishes (which is why automatic dishwasher detergents are still rather caustic), for most handwashing that sort of brute chemical force just isn't required.

Have a stash of Ecolab commercial detergent one often uses for general house cleaning. As the stuff is loaded with phosphates and washing soda it does great job of removing grease/oils and keeping dirt suspended in the water. I've used this product for everything from cleaning the filters on the air cleaner, washing window screens to scrubbing down dirty appliances.
 
I remember a commerical where they had a lady take a hand full of detergent an dplace in water to feel the heat reaction of it then a new improved version and there was no heat reaction with it. Was kinder to hands. I can't dsy what drand it was. I do know that one of my aunts did use Vel or Trend detergent in bath water for my cousions to have a bubbl bath with.
 
Lemon Joy, Ivory Liquid

Along with a whole host of other dishwashing liquids were the "bubble bath" for many children and even adults back in the day. Am told in certain areas Lemon Joy was a hit.

When you get right down to it again there was little difference between Mr. Bubble and dishwashing liquids. Both were based upon SLS or similar chemicals. Indeed IIRC Mr. B was just SLS and a bit of scent thrown it.
 
Have a stash of Ecolab commercial detergent one often uses for general house cleaning.

That wouldn't be Tetrox, would it?
Textrox was a commercial dishwasher detergent in the 60's & 70's. In 1980 Ecolab acqired the name and it's marketed as an all purpose cleaner instead of a DW detergent. When it was a commercial DW detergent it was very sudsy but worked well in those flash type commercial dishwashers.
 
When I worked in a resturant where we still hand washed the dishes we used Cheer.  The owner would buy these gianormous boxes and we would add a scoop to each new sink full.  It did a very good job cutting grease, then holding the glop of stuff in suspension so you didn't have to change water as often, and was more economical. I don't remember my hands being any more "dishpan" than having stuck them in the hottest water I could stand then transferring the dishes to a rinse tank that was again the hottest water I could stand, then transferring them to a tank of bleach water again HOT water.  Then after a minute, up to the draining board.

 

This process was repeated many, many, many times through out the day.  Later I did the cooking, but still had to stick my hands in the dishwater because the cooks had to clean the steam tables and all the prep area. When I changed jobs to a modern resturant with a Hobart dish machine I was in heaven, except the boss was an ass-hat.  Come to think of it, I'm kind of glad those days are over.

 

Do I use laundry detergent for dishes in my home?  No, but if I were to run out of Dawn, and the dishwasher was broke, and I was on my last dish in the house, and McDonald's was closed due to fire, and I couldn't pay anyone to hand wash for me.  Sure I wouldn't have any problem using it.

 

BTW--I like Tide to clean the bathtub. It cuts right through the scum with minimal scrubbing.

 
 
My aunt would take a bar of ivory soap (when it was indeed soap) and let it sit in a small plastic container (say a small Chinese soup container)with water. She would let it become a slurry/liquid. She would then wash dishes with it.

I tried it once and thought it was a very cool, economical, "more natural" idea!
 
Here's a commercial I grew up with and my mom was a die hard Palmolive user - I loved the smell of that soap as a kid and sometimes when I'm in the store I'll stand there and give the original green Palmolive a sniff, think of my sweet mom, and have a moment. God, I'm a mess sometimes!

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