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A Maytag A-806 and a DE-806 Matched Set!
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Thanks Phil, I'll toast with a Diet Pepsi...LOL!
As far as I know John, only the 806's and the hyper rare 906's had the lighted panels and tubs.
After carefully looking at the picture of the ad, I've come to the conclusion this is an A806s, yep suds saver. It also has the chrome trim strip between the top and cabinet, so prior to 1973?
I imagine the belts will need replacing on the washer. What are your thoughts on souping up the performance with different spec belts? Would the higher speed be detrimental to the washer and/or clothes?
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Then raise your Diet Pepsi and
cheers, happy washing with the new Maytags, Louie.
cheers, happy washing with the new Maytags, Louie.
you can test out mine Louie.....I have the 50hz setup....
Restoring a MT A806 & DE806
I would diffidently get a 50 cycle motor pulley and set of 50 cycle belts, adding a motor start capacitor is also a great idea for any MT DC washer, the capacitor makes the motor start in a split second without any hesitation.
The large tub MT DC washers just couldn't handle and pull down a good sized load especially during the short rinse agitation period without the 15% speed boost the 50 cycle components give, the regular 16 gallon machines were not quite as bad but still were helped by the 15% speed increase.
If I were going to make this my primary daily driver I would also install the orbital transmission with the load sensor agitator. This upgrade really reduces the clothing wear while allowing larger items to turn over and get evenly washed, it was certainly the best agitator MT ever put in the DC washer. We have this combination [ 50C LS agitator ] hooked up in the A806 in our museum that anyone is welcome to come and try out and so far everyone that has tried it out has really been impressed. Its like the 4 cylinder Chrysler mini van with and without the turbo option, LOL.
The other thing I would do is use a WP inlet valve so you get a faster fill and better spray rinse, you should replace an inlet valve in any case if it is over about 10 years old to reduce the risk of floods.
When rebuilding the dryer I would modify the dryers heating element for 208 volts [ only if you have 208 volt power in your building ] so you get proper drying speeds, otherwise the HOH dryers are pretty slow as they only have a 4800 watt element [ WP- KM always used 5,600 watts during this time period ] which drops to around 3,600 if you have 208 volt power, at this wattage you are getting down to the drying heat of a European dryer without the fast spinning washer to go with it.
I might also consider adding sound insulation to the washer and dryer to make these smooth running machines even quieter and satisfying to use.
John L.
I would diffidently get a 50 cycle motor pulley and set of 50 cycle belts, adding a motor start capacitor is also a great idea for any MT DC washer, the capacitor makes the motor start in a split second without any hesitation.
The large tub MT DC washers just couldn't handle and pull down a good sized load especially during the short rinse agitation period without the 15% speed boost the 50 cycle components give, the regular 16 gallon machines were not quite as bad but still were helped by the 15% speed increase.
If I were going to make this my primary daily driver I would also install the orbital transmission with the load sensor agitator. This upgrade really reduces the clothing wear while allowing larger items to turn over and get evenly washed, it was certainly the best agitator MT ever put in the DC washer. We have this combination [ 50C LS agitator ] hooked up in the A806 in our museum that anyone is welcome to come and try out and so far everyone that has tried it out has really been impressed. Its like the 4 cylinder Chrysler mini van with and without the turbo option, LOL.
The other thing I would do is use a WP inlet valve so you get a faster fill and better spray rinse, you should replace an inlet valve in any case if it is over about 10 years old to reduce the risk of floods.
When rebuilding the dryer I would modify the dryers heating element for 208 volts [ only if you have 208 volt power in your building ] so you get proper drying speeds, otherwise the HOH dryers are pretty slow as they only have a 4800 watt element [ WP- KM always used 5,600 watts during this time period ] which drops to around 3,600 if you have 208 volt power, at this wattage you are getting down to the drying heat of a European dryer without the fast spinning washer to go with it.
I might also consider adding sound insulation to the washer and dryer to make these smooth running machines even quieter and satisfying to use.
John L.
Wow John, thanks for all that info. I must admit I am very intrigued with all these modifications. As you may recall, I already have a load sensor agitator. This 806 will be a daily driver, and I want it to be the best it can be in terms of reliability and washing ability.
50hz pulley
First off, congrats on finding your dream set! Unless John has a secret stash of 50hz pulleys on hand, finding one from a distributor can be tricky. Here's a note I sent to another member last year regarding the pulleys -
Unfortunately it looks like the 50hz pulley is no longer available from most sources. The last PN I see available was the Y202496, but 202496, 1245651, 2-2496, were also listed at one time. The 50hz pulleys are a heavy machined pulley, rather than a stamped pulley that I've seen on may 60hz versions. You may want to keep a search active on ebay, just in case. The belts appear to still be available from a few sources.
To be honest, I'd clean the washer up, install a new injector, rebuild the motor glide with a new kit, clean the pulleys, install a new drive belt (pump belt should be fine), replace the water valve if you are concerned with using the original, and run with it. Several members have had no issues with the wash action of the A806, as they came from the factory. Personally I feel the A806 was the best of the best and I wouldn't change a thing with the drive system and leave it the way Newton intended it to be.
Ben
First off, congrats on finding your dream set! Unless John has a secret stash of 50hz pulleys on hand, finding one from a distributor can be tricky. Here's a note I sent to another member last year regarding the pulleys -
Unfortunately it looks like the 50hz pulley is no longer available from most sources. The last PN I see available was the Y202496, but 202496, 1245651, 2-2496, were also listed at one time. The 50hz pulleys are a heavy machined pulley, rather than a stamped pulley that I've seen on may 60hz versions. You may want to keep a search active on ebay, just in case. The belts appear to still be available from a few sources.
To be honest, I'd clean the washer up, install a new injector, rebuild the motor glide with a new kit, clean the pulleys, install a new drive belt (pump belt should be fine), replace the water valve if you are concerned with using the original, and run with it. Several members have had no issues with the wash action of the A806, as they came from the factory. Personally I feel the A806 was the best of the best and I wouldn't change a thing with the drive system and leave it the way Newton intended it to be.
Ben
Up Grading A Maytag Washer
Hi Ben, these were good washers in their day, but MT in Newton Iowa are the ones that upgraded this washer design to the orbital trans and Load sensor agitator, and If I can drive a 1973 Impala that runs and drives like a 2005 model I will do it any day.
Hope to see you soon, John
Hi Ben, these were good washers in their day, but MT in Newton Iowa are the ones that upgraded this washer design to the orbital trans and Load sensor agitator, and If I can drive a 1973 Impala that runs and drives like a 2005 model I will do it any day.
Hope to see you soon, John
A reasonable alternative to the hard-to-find 50Hz pulley is a trans oil change with Redline MT-90 oil. The wash action is downright violent, and no 'lazy' agitation when the temps are cold. Seeing is believing.
Thanks Ben!
I've decided to do the following:
A) Switch to a 50 cycle motor pulley and set of 50 cycle belts if available. If not, I'll
put on new belts.
B) Install the Load Sensor agitator.
C) Switch to the WP inlet valve.
D) Rebuild the motor glide.
The transmission if working properly, I will leave be for now. And this is assuming the washer is working correctly at it's maiden wash.
As for the dryer, I have not made the 220 volt installation yet, so I have no idea if ultimately it will be true 220 service or 208V.
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I've decided to do the following:
A) Switch to a 50 cycle motor pulley and set of 50 cycle belts if available. If not, I'll
put on new belts.
B) Install the Load Sensor agitator.
C) Switch to the WP inlet valve.
D) Rebuild the motor glide.
The transmission if working properly, I will leave be for now. And this is assuming the washer is working correctly at it's maiden wash.
As for the dryer, I have not made the 220 volt installation yet, so I have no idea if ultimately it will be true 220 service or 208V.
[this post was last edited: 3/13/2018-15:17]
Ultramatic
Thanks I wasnt sure which models have that feature. I'll keep crossing my fingers a clean one comes my way.
Thanks I wasnt sure which models have that feature. I'll keep crossing my fingers a clean one comes my way.
John
I forgot to mention, the 808's had lighted panels too. They replaced the 806's from 1974 onward to 1980 I believe.
I forgot to mention, the 808's had lighted panels too. They replaced the 806's from 1974 onward to 1980 I believe.
Ultramatic
I Googled what the A906 looked like and saw it was the push button model so thats out lol. I think its gonna be the 806 or 808 hopefully in the near future. Thanks for the help.
I Googled what the A906 looked like and saw it was the push button model so thats out lol. I think its gonna be the 806 or 808 hopefully in the near future. Thanks for the help.
yeah, you won't find many 906's these days.....
Boosting The Performance Of A MT DC Washer
Changing the trans oil to a new more modern oil is differently a good idea if you are keeping the old style Pittman trans, but doing so does nothing about the poor turnover these bigger tub washers are know for and the barely over 600 RPM spin speed.
The 50 cycle motor pulleys are getting scarce but can easily be made by a local machinist, getting the correct belts is actually the harder part of the upgrade.
John L.
Changing the trans oil to a new more modern oil is differently a good idea if you are keeping the old style Pittman trans, but doing so does nothing about the poor turnover these bigger tub washers are know for and the barely over 600 RPM spin speed.
The 50 cycle motor pulleys are getting scarce but can easily be made by a local machinist, getting the correct belts is actually the harder part of the upgrade.
John L.
<h1 id="title" class="a-size-large a-spacing-none"><span id="productTitle" class="a-size-large"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Berkel 01-402375-00119 MOTOR PULLEY 50HZ (01-402375-00119) </span> </span></h1>
<span class="a-size-large"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I this the pulley being referred to?</span></span>
Thanks for the tip on the oil, Cory, I'm doing my 806 this summer and will try it.
The Load Sensor agitator may not be a worthwhile effort if you aren't increasing the agitation speed, the smaller fins on the Load Sensor won't move much at the 63 OPM of the Pittman transmission.
I looked for the 50HZ pulley & belt set a few years ago and came up dry at every turn. I ordered a set probably 10-12 years ago when they were still available from Maytag but it's not surprising they're all gone now. You really will love the 806, it is the pinnacle of Maytag, mine get used (factory specs) every week.
The Load Sensor agitator may not be a worthwhile effort if you aren't increasing the agitation speed, the smaller fins on the Load Sensor won't move much at the 63 OPM of the Pittman transmission.
I looked for the 50HZ pulley & belt set a few years ago and came up dry at every turn. I ordered a set probably 10-12 years ago when they were still available from Maytag but it's not surprising they're all gone now. You really will love the 806, it is the pinnacle of Maytag, mine get used (factory specs) every week.
50hz setup....doubtful, but Partstore.com has it listed as out of stock until 3/24/18
pulley part number......Y202496 OR 2-2496, 202496
drive belt..............6 2119480....Maytag belt OR 2-11948, 211948
pump belt...............Q 62149 EB....from the Mansfield Prod Co OR 2-11451, 211451, 5303261155
the pump belt looks to be about 1/4" bigger than the original.....the original may work if you slid the pump all the way to the left.....when I get a chance, I will see if it works...no sense in buying another if it works....
the regular powerfin with this setup kicks ass.....
of course there is a powerfin from an orbital transmission that will work...
the ultimate would be the Load Sensor, to handle any size load
pulley part number......Y202496 OR 2-2496, 202496
drive belt..............6 2119480....Maytag belt OR 2-11948, 211948
pump belt...............Q 62149 EB....from the Mansfield Prod Co OR 2-11451, 211451, 5303261155
the pump belt looks to be about 1/4" bigger than the original.....the original may work if you slid the pump all the way to the left.....when I get a chance, I will see if it works...no sense in buying another if it works....
the regular powerfin with this setup kicks ass.....
of course there is a powerfin from an orbital transmission that will work...
the ultimate would be the Load Sensor, to handle any size load
