Is the Gemline tub bearing that bad? I just bought one for my A407 thinking it should be fine esp after I soak the felt with Zoom Spout
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good-shepherd
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Is the Gemline tub bearing that bad?
Combo52 was talking about Gemline vs. genuine Maytag OEM parts.
New Maytag FSP parts, for better or worse, are Whirlpool manufactured.
I wouldn't have any problem using one of those Gemline tub bearings.
Combo52 was talking about Gemline vs. genuine Maytag OEM parts.
New Maytag FSP parts, for better or worse, are Whirlpool manufactured.
I wouldn't have any problem using one of those Gemline tub bearings.
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The washer spins out fine & agitates quietly. Perhaps that jumping the motor question was a little confusing for the pros' Here is a real brain teaser. Since this washer comes with the timed bleach dispenser it calls for Maytag pump 2-2203. The instructions for this pump require a 9/32 hole be drilled in the feed hole for bleach mix. question --Why did my original pump have a little over a 1/8 hole from the factory? 9/32 is over 1/4 inch--I believe the tank size accepts about 1-1/2 cups of bleach and slowly disperses it through this small hole originally.
I am thinking of all the complaints of bleach blow back on these type units are because of enlarging the hole- Thoughts?
The washer spins out fine & agitates quietly. Perhaps that jumping the motor question was a little confusing for the pros' Here is a real brain teaser. Since this washer comes with the timed bleach dispenser it calls for Maytag pump 2-2203. The instructions for this pump require a 9/32 hole be drilled in the feed hole for bleach mix. question --Why did my original pump have a little over a 1/8 hole from the factory? 9/32 is over 1/4 inch--I believe the tank size accepts about 1-1/2 cups of bleach and slowly disperses it through this small hole originally.
I am thinking of all the complaints of bleach blow back on these type units are because of enlarging the hole- Thoughts?
yogitunes
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MT DC Bleach Dispenser
The MT pumps that I have seen that originally had the delayed bleach dispenser had what appeared to be around a 1/4" hole in the pump, 1/8" seems a little small as it could clog more easily.
What have the other MT experts seen ?
I always though calling this a timed dispenser was a little misleading as it gives you the impression that the bleach will be added at the proper time later in the wash cycle, when in reality all the bleach is in the wash water in about 60 seconds after the agitation begins and well before the detergent is barely dissolved, a proper timed dispenser would wait till the last 2-4 minutes of the wash period like MT does on their Neptunes.
John L.
The MT pumps that I have seen that originally had the delayed bleach dispenser had what appeared to be around a 1/4" hole in the pump, 1/8" seems a little small as it could clog more easily.
What have the other MT experts seen ?
I always though calling this a timed dispenser was a little misleading as it gives you the impression that the bleach will be added at the proper time later in the wash cycle, when in reality all the bleach is in the wash water in about 60 seconds after the agitation begins and well before the detergent is barely dissolved, a proper timed dispenser would wait till the last 2-4 minutes of the wash period like MT does on their Neptunes.
John L.
Thanks John,
That means whoever drilled the 1/8 hole was a homeowner without proper knowledge or an old Maytag pro who thought otherwise on pump replacement with the bleach dispenser--I digress. Does anyone know when the pure lead tub support arm washers were discontinued and replaced with the fiber ones ?
There is a reason for these questions--Since the A806 has no tag except for the tub wiring schematic page, I am trying to guess at the year of this machine. Ben only surmised that it probably was an older machine . I appreciate all the help--Joe
That means whoever drilled the 1/8 hole was a homeowner without proper knowledge or an old Maytag pro who thought otherwise on pump replacement with the bleach dispenser--I digress. Does anyone know when the pure lead tub support arm washers were discontinued and replaced with the fiber ones ?
There is a reason for these questions--Since the A806 has no tag except for the tub wiring schematic page, I am trying to guess at the year of this machine. Ben only surmised that it probably was an older machine . I appreciate all the help--Joe
KQ
Curious why the MFG year of the donor A806 matters if you’re combing parts from multiple machines to put together a home brew machine? I pulled the tag that came from the machine and it was made in May of ‘72.
I can’t explain the bleach hole size as I don’t recall putting a pump on it (It has now been almost 12 years since I worked on it) but if I did I could have grabbed a spare pump from the parts stash and a drill bit that would have matched the hole in the old pump.
Any reason why you wouldn’t drill the hole size to the factory spec if you’re planning on reusing the pump?
Ben
Curious why the MFG year of the donor A806 matters if you’re combing parts from multiple machines to put together a home brew machine? I pulled the tag that came from the machine and it was made in May of ‘72.
I can’t explain the bleach hole size as I don’t recall putting a pump on it (It has now been almost 12 years since I worked on it) but if I did I could have grabbed a spare pump from the parts stash and a drill bit that would have matched the hole in the old pump.
Any reason why you wouldn’t drill the hole size to the factory spec if you’re planning on reusing the pump?
Ben
CURIOUS MFG YEAR
Ben,
For that exact reason,To find an ID tag as close as possible to the year. I had no idea you saved it. Would you consider selling it? BTW The cabinet is the only part that is not original to an 806 . It will have everything a 72- 806 had.
Ben,
For that exact reason,To find an ID tag as close as possible to the year. I had no idea you saved it. Would you consider selling it? BTW The cabinet is the only part that is not original to an 806 . It will have everything a 72- 806 had.
SAVE THAT THOUGHT !!!
Why not wait to answer when I show the finished product in a few days. It may not have theatrical orchestra's or be perfect, But I suspect it should be worthy of a re badge . If you or others think the original shell is required for a full restoration- I will understand, but then, why save the badge if you can never get full perfection back? Coming soon
Why not wait to answer when I show the finished product in a few days. It may not have theatrical orchestra's or be perfect, But I suspect it should be worthy of a re badge . If you or others think the original shell is required for a full restoration- I will understand, but then, why save the badge if you can never get full perfection back? Coming soon
why save the badge
It's been a tradition of mine to save the model tag from a scrapped out appliance as the last thing to snag. It's something I look forward adding to the collection of tags each time I bring home something to part out.
You've accomplished a lot with your washer - we are all looking forward to seeing the finished product.
Ben
It's been a tradition of mine to save the model tag from a scrapped out appliance as the last thing to snag. It's something I look forward adding to the collection of tags each time I bring home something to part out.
You've accomplished a lot with your washer - we are all looking forward to seeing the finished product.
Ben
I’m digging the paint job
Now this is homemade but it worked out great. I used some 1-1/4 aluminum angle and lamp parts from Lowe's. I soldered and used heat shrink for a harness and used a 3m epoxy that I had along with a 25w bulb. I changed out the lid switch for the correct part . The tub pic was taken in the dark.
Looking Good, posts 43-45
The tub light idea works well, It might be interesting to find an LED bulb that would give a whiter light which would be impressive with the white tub and turquoise agitator.
For drain hoses I always liked WPs black rubber hoses, The best ones were the real rubber Norge or SQ Commercial TL washer drain hoses, they were really good quality heaver rubber and looked most like MTs original hoses but were much better rubber than MT used.
[ Maytag did not use very high quality rubber and plastic [ and lubricants ] in the 60s-the 80s ]
John L.
The tub light idea works well, It might be interesting to find an LED bulb that would give a whiter light which would be impressive with the white tub and turquoise agitator.
For drain hoses I always liked WPs black rubber hoses, The best ones were the real rubber Norge or SQ Commercial TL washer drain hoses, they were really good quality heaver rubber and looked most like MTs original hoses but were much better rubber than MT used.
[ Maytag did not use very high quality rubber and plastic [ and lubricants ] in the 60s-the 80s ]
John L.
Great job! Congratulations!
eurekastar
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I hope you'll upload a video to YouTube so we can see that beauty in action!
Stunning work.
Congratulations!
Congratulations!
Last pics of 806
I have ran 4 loads and not one leak or squeak, I am working on someone to help with the video . Here are the last pictures of the 806
1 believe placing the harness in wire loom should be the norm on these old machines, And John--I changed to an LED tub bulb and it made a big difference in Lumens and heat-Thank you !
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I have ran 4 loads and not one leak or squeak, I am working on someone to help with the video . Here are the last pictures of the 806
1 believe placing the harness in wire loom should be the norm on these old machines, And John--I changed to an LED tub bulb and it made a big difference in Lumens and heat-Thank you !
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last pics
Although the bleach injection is rigged,It works well without back up or leakage. That's sloppy of me to leave silicone grease on the tub . I used it on the new top tub seal. Yes there is plenty of tubing with enough fall for spin and out of balance spin, You'll notice the bleach tank elbow is practically facing you.
Although the bleach injection is rigged,It works well without back up or leakage. That's sloppy of me to leave silicone grease on the tub . I used it on the new top tub seal. Yes there is plenty of tubing with enough fall for spin and out of balance spin, You'll notice the bleach tank elbow is practically facing you.
Last pics of 806
It turned out pretty well,Not perfect,But I am happy--The Turquoise A702 is next and I will name it Benny in honor of you know who. It will be very entertaining. --Thanks to Robert for the knowledge and the access to it !!
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It turned out pretty well,Not perfect,But I am happy--The Turquoise A702 is next and I will name it Benny in honor of you know who. It will be very entertaining. --Thanks to Robert for the knowledge and the access to it !!
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repairguy
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Good job! That Maytag will be around for another 50 years.
casciomichael
Member
That machine looks great. In regards to the tub light, did you punch a hole in the tub at the 3 oclock position for the light to pass through? Also what is the part number for the double pole switch?
Thanks!
Michael
Thanks!
Michael
I would love to see a video so I could hear what a fresh new Newton trans sounds like. Or doesnt sound like LOL
Michael ,
No hole at all. After the front top bolts are removed the entire top assembly is raised and you will see the clear lens on the top drum . The light is attached to the top underside lid shining DOWN . The light does not rotate nor does the top or cover. The inner tub spins.
John--I will get the video up soon and the transmission sounds a little quieter than my old A310 but not much. I love that unique sound they all make. If you watch a few on YouTube they are all perfection, IMPO- I wish we made stuff that lasted 30 to 50 years these days.
No hole at all. After the front top bolts are removed the entire top assembly is raised and you will see the clear lens on the top drum . The light is attached to the top underside lid shining DOWN . The light does not rotate nor does the top or cover. The inner tub spins.
John--I will get the video up soon and the transmission sounds a little quieter than my old A310 but not much. I love that unique sound they all make. If you watch a few on YouTube they are all perfection, IMPO- I wish we made stuff that lasted 30 to 50 years these days.
Wiring the light
Joseph,
Thanks for sharing your workflow! Excellent work! Can you share any insights regarding the tub light wiring mod.? I'll be rebuilding the transmission of my a806 (see Post# 1073856) and figure while it's all apart, why not add a light? In my scenario, I was contemplating LEDs and a relay (which may be overkill). Your solution looks more elegant.
Cheers,
Chris
Joseph,
Thanks for sharing your workflow! Excellent work! Can you share any insights regarding the tub light wiring mod.? I'll be rebuilding the transmission of my a806 (see Post# 1073856) and figure while it's all apart, why not add a light? In my scenario, I was contemplating LEDs and a relay (which may be overkill). Your solution looks more elegant.
Cheers,
Chris
Thanks Chris,
All you need is lid switch 206415 or 2-6415 , It has 3 terminals. Wire yours the same way it is now only the new top switch terminal will be black + to the light. The white from light will go to L2 on the back of your timer. There should be a spare terminal unused. Joe
All you need is lid switch 206415 or 2-6415 , It has 3 terminals. Wire yours the same way it is now only the new top switch terminal will be black + to the light. The white from light will go to L2 on the back of your timer. There should be a spare terminal unused. Joe
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