matchboxpaul
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and the drop down door version - Lavamat Deluxe Electronic. Deffo sold in the UK.
AEG Lavamat 804 TS
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matchboxpaul
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and finally, cause your 804 has got me all AEGee.....one of my mates from primary and junior school had one of these (or something pretty much identical) in their farmhouse style kitchen.
AEG Lavamat Nova 803.
cheers and enjoy.
paul
AEG Lavamat Nova 803.
cheers and enjoy.
paul
Hi Paul
Look I've found the instructions to the Electronic. There are loads of other old machines too.
Hope you internet sorts itself out again.
Rob
Look I've found the instructions to the Electronic. There are loads of other old machines too.
Hope you internet sorts itself out again.
Rob
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Rob,
That is a lovely machine and I congratulate you. Back when I was working in an appliance shop in 89-90, selling new and used washers, our boss had a policy. When one of his customers or employees brought in a friend, neighbor, relation - someone who couldn't afford a new machine - but whose business he valued for future repeat sales - it was this series from AEG he'd steer them to.
"Bulletproof, idiotensicher, run forever doing five loads a day".
The only things you'll need to watch are that drum bearing - the seal is probably not in best form - and that diverter shunt for the dispensers. It can get gummed up over time and the leverage on that rod is more than enough to break plastic parts.
I think that clutch was probably the most brilliant solution to the "high-speed" spin without logic problem or spending a small fortune of its day. The Italians were using a sophisticated but unreliable variable diameter spring loaded pulley, Philips logic worked...when it worked...but these just merely ran up to speed.
I gave my matching dryer to friends in 1991 when I got my Miele. It was still running, last I heard, in December.
Incredible, when you compare this machine to the stuff built today...thanks for sharing.
Rob,
That is a lovely machine and I congratulate you. Back when I was working in an appliance shop in 89-90, selling new and used washers, our boss had a policy. When one of his customers or employees brought in a friend, neighbor, relation - someone who couldn't afford a new machine - but whose business he valued for future repeat sales - it was this series from AEG he'd steer them to.
"Bulletproof, idiotensicher, run forever doing five loads a day".
The only things you'll need to watch are that drum bearing - the seal is probably not in best form - and that diverter shunt for the dispensers. It can get gummed up over time and the leverage on that rod is more than enough to break plastic parts.
I think that clutch was probably the most brilliant solution to the "high-speed" spin without logic problem or spending a small fortune of its day. The Italians were using a sophisticated but unreliable variable diameter spring loaded pulley, Philips logic worked...when it worked...but these just merely ran up to speed.
I gave my matching dryer to friends in 1991 when I got my Miele. It was still running, last I heard, in December.
Incredible, when you compare this machine to the stuff built today...thanks for sharing.
Those AEG's were wonderful machines. I've always liked them and yes they were sturdy built. I had a Zanker dryer which was similar to the AEG dryer that matches this machine. It ran forever and like Keven I still would be using it if I hadn't exchanged it for a Miele.
BTW, the Economy button doesn't shorten the main wash but extends it so you can wash at a lower temperature. It maximizes the temperature to 60*C. The so called "E-button" was an idea of the owner of a Dutch chain that sold whitegoods called Gerard de Lange. Most manufacturers adopted the idea and most washers got some kind of Economy button that made it possible to wash whites not at 95*C but at 60*C with the same wash time as a boil wash. Miele didn't adopt this idea but came later with the wash time guarantee that gave all cycles the same time no matter what temperature was selected.
BTW, the Economy button doesn't shorten the main wash but extends it so you can wash at a lower temperature. It maximizes the temperature to 60*C. The so called "E-button" was an idea of the owner of a Dutch chain that sold whitegoods called Gerard de Lange. Most manufacturers adopted the idea and most washers got some kind of Economy button that made it possible to wash whites not at 95*C but at 60*C with the same wash time as a boil wash. Miele didn't adopt this idea but came later with the wash time guarantee that gave all cycles the same time no matter what temperature was selected.
I think, when I press the E button on my Bella, it automaticly sets in a lock, so it cuts the heater on 60*, but you can choice lower temps.... and in that case, the machine will was the time it takes on a 95*, but only on 60*!
The "E" button
function varied over time, but generally speaking, AEG used it for two purposes.
One, as everyone has noted, it extended the wash time while cutting the temperature from 90° to 60 or 65° (and from 60° to 45° in some models).
It also increased the time clothes were held in the active enzyme phase around 40-50° considerably. This, more than anything else improved the cleaning. We switched to high-enzyme phosphate detergents about the same time the US did. But the US washers in the 60's weren't rinsing well enough to get rid of the beasts so people got itchy skin and enzymes disappeared from the market for a few decades. At least, that's the way I remember it. Once the water goes much above 50° or the wash time goes longer than 40 minutes or so, the enzymes denature and that problem, at least, is solved anyway.
function varied over time, but generally speaking, AEG used it for two purposes.
One, as everyone has noted, it extended the wash time while cutting the temperature from 90° to 60 or 65° (and from 60° to 45° in some models).
It also increased the time clothes were held in the active enzyme phase around 40-50° considerably. This, more than anything else improved the cleaning. We switched to high-enzyme phosphate detergents about the same time the US did. But the US washers in the 60's weren't rinsing well enough to get rid of the beasts so people got itchy skin and enzymes disappeared from the market for a few decades. At least, that's the way I remember it. Once the water goes much above 50° or the wash time goes longer than 40 minutes or so, the enzymes denature and that problem, at least, is solved anyway.
My Philips indeed decreases the temperature to 40*C on the 60*C cycle.
I don't remember exactly when the "E" button was introduced.Must have been somewhere in the seventies I think. The enzyme phase was from a much later date I think, but I could be wrong. Anyone has an idea about when that happened? IIRC it was Bauknecht who introduced the enzyme phase.
I don't remember exactly when the "E" button was introduced.Must have been somewhere in the seventies I think. The enzyme phase was from a much later date I think, but I could be wrong. Anyone has an idea about when that happened? IIRC it was Bauknecht who introduced the enzyme phase.
Hi Guys thanks for your messages
Silly me, I meant lengthens the wash rather than shortens it! It was the pressure of filming LOL!
One thing I find odd about this machine is that it does variomatic spins throughout the rinses but then goes straight to main spin at the end. I note on some other models there was a variomatic button.
Rob
Silly me, I meant lengthens the wash rather than shortens it! It was the pressure of filming LOL!
One thing I find odd about this machine is that it does variomatic spins throughout the rinses but then goes straight to main spin at the end. I note on some other models there was a variomatic button.
Rob
Wasn't clear
I meant that this "E" button's function shifted over time - first only lengthening time at a lower temperature, later the enzymatic action. If I recall rightly, AEG used a "bio" symbol, sort of like the old symbol for radiation in the late 1970's for the enzyme cycles, too. Separately from the "E" button on many models.
It is a mystery to me why and how AEG chose the Variomatic spins. Some models offer a button to make them available for all spins, some only do it during the rinses. The first electronically controlled units (those hideous epoxy cast modules which never worked worth a damn) tended to go insane and strain the later motors which weren't designed for it with full-fledged spins from the very start. Your motor has that clever clutch system.
I meant that this "E" button's function shifted over time - first only lengthening time at a lower temperature, later the enzymatic action. If I recall rightly, AEG used a "bio" symbol, sort of like the old symbol for radiation in the late 1970's for the enzyme cycles, too. Separately from the "E" button on many models.
It is a mystery to me why and how AEG chose the Variomatic spins. Some models offer a button to make them available for all spins, some only do it during the rinses. The first electronically controlled units (those hideous epoxy cast modules which never worked worth a damn) tended to go insane and strain the later motors which weren't designed for it with full-fledged spins from the very start. Your motor has that clever clutch system.
Bio Programes - Enzyme Phase
Very nice machine ! I like the way it spins beween rinses, I`m sure it also handels very large loads perfectly without any suds locks. In my opinion 3 rinses 1/3 up the door coupled with fast interm spins is the key to perfect rinsing without wasting too much water.
Not having a Variomatic spin for the last spin is actually a benefit in my opinion. Some 70s to early 80s Mieles took ages to perform a final spin and there was no option to switch it off.
I`m a bit surprised to see an E button on a washer produced in 1981. Thought it did not become common before the mid 80s.
Lots of washers advertised in the 1970s to have special BIO programes to get the best out of the new detergents.
IIRC the only difference between a BIO and a non BIO progame was the temperature of the prewash. BIO usually meant a 60° prewash instead of 30°or 40°.
The Enzyme Phase was something completely different. This meant to keep the mainwash temperature for a while on 40° and then heat up to whatever is selected. I think Louis is correct it was a Bauknecht thing and is now also known as a "profile wash". I estimate it was introduced in the late 80s or early 90s. I wonder how many of today machines still use it, at least my Miele doesn`t.
The E buttons usually just extended the wash times some also lowered the temperature automatically if there was no seperate thermostate.
Very nice machine ! I like the way it spins beween rinses, I`m sure it also handels very large loads perfectly without any suds locks. In my opinion 3 rinses 1/3 up the door coupled with fast interm spins is the key to perfect rinsing without wasting too much water.
Not having a Variomatic spin for the last spin is actually a benefit in my opinion. Some 70s to early 80s Mieles took ages to perform a final spin and there was no option to switch it off.
I`m a bit surprised to see an E button on a washer produced in 1981. Thought it did not become common before the mid 80s.
Lots of washers advertised in the 1970s to have special BIO programes to get the best out of the new detergents.
IIRC the only difference between a BIO and a non BIO progame was the temperature of the prewash. BIO usually meant a 60° prewash instead of 30°or 40°.
The Enzyme Phase was something completely different. This meant to keep the mainwash temperature for a while on 40° and then heat up to whatever is selected. I think Louis is correct it was a Bauknecht thing and is now also known as a "profile wash". I estimate it was introduced in the late 80s or early 90s. I wonder how many of today machines still use it, at least my Miele doesn`t.
The E buttons usually just extended the wash times some also lowered the temperature automatically if there was no seperate thermostate.
Variomatic spin
My wild guess about the lack of Variomatic spin after the last rinse is that AEG used the same timer for the machines with and the machines without a Variomatic spin button. If my wild guess is correct it would mean that the machines without a Variomatic spin skip a few increments on the timer between the last rinse and the final spin.
My wild guess about the lack of Variomatic spin after the last rinse is that AEG used the same timer for the machines with and the machines without a Variomatic spin button. If my wild guess is correct it would mean that the machines without a Variomatic spin skip a few increments on the timer between the last rinse and the final spin.
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