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the eternal debate reprised...

why confine to one or the other? Both have differing merits.

Generally prefer an electric cooktop and oven, but using a traditional wok is one area where elecric coils or induction just don't work as well imo.
 
Actually ...

"Like Kevin mentioned earlier-- if a gas leak develops or if the apppliance should malfunction you can smell the odor of gas very quickly."

But there's very rarely any risk of an ELECTRIC leak ...
 
JeffG ...

"just try to find a single high-end home (e.g. worth over $2M) with an electric stove in the kitchen. It simply ain't gonna happen."

Actually, it DOES happen. You're just not looking hard enough.

There are many estate homes in the Pittsburgh area in the $7- $10 million range with electric ranges. I've been in them myself.

And here in Manhattan, quite a few eight-figure apartment renovations also feature all-electric kitchens.

I think that what you may be referring to are the nouveau riche outfitting their McMansions with what they're brainwashed to believe is "high-end" on HGTV.
 
I have only been using electric for about 3 years, while I learned to cook on gas (and a very poor example of a gas range at that!), I find electric far more predictable, more even, and without the awful odor. Not to mention that the oven heats in 5 minutes or less, and recovers just as quickly. Try that with gas. Try melting chocolate without a double boiler on gas. The camp I work at has a full size commercial convection oven, and it doesn't bake half as well as our 1961 Frigidaire's electric oven. I'm constantly burning something. We have gas heat, hot water, and clothes dryers, which I don't mind (although I do prefer electric dryers, but that's not an option here). I guess everyone has their preferences, and I prefer electric for cooking. But I don't fear gas.
 
NYC, the only problem with an electric leak is you cannot see/smell it until you touch it.

Vintage, I would assume Julia Child used an electric on set because most studio's probably do not have a gas line run into them and electric is "safer" for the crew.

The big reason I prefer Gas is because all of the electric ranges I've cooked on are all BOL POS with little control on burners. My mother has a glasstop induction electric that I LOVE...But the $$$ factor means I only get to cook on it on holidays....no way I'd spend what they did on a Range.

Gas is king in commercial kitchens due to the cost savings...not due to any advantage in control or cooking-ability.
 
lamont:

You are correct that electric was safer under the circumstances of taping The French Chef in WGBH's studio. And Julia always held that "if it heats up, you can cook on it." She often cooked with hotplates and electric skillets when on book tours where a demo was called for.

However, Julia's confrere James Beard was a huge booster of electric ranges; his famed teaching kitchen in his New York townhouse was equipped with Corning smooth-top units. Beard was one of the very few people Julia related to as a peer.

In my own teaching experience (1983-1989), I found over and over again that electric ranges beat residential gas ranges to Hell and gone. The reason is more powerful heat output. Residential gas range burners do not generate as much heat as an 8" electric burner can. I also find electric ovens to be much more even bakers overall.

My sister and brother-in-law disregarded my advice some years ago, when they wanted to replace their electric range with gas. I wished them well and told them I hoped they wouldn't be sorry. They were; they quickly discovered that large pots took much, much longer to come to a boil.

Commercial gas ranges are a different story; they have greater heat output on their burners. But they use about triple the gas, they often require special support construction for the floor underneath them, and they are absolute Hell to clean.
 
Induction

With the 3000 watt induction element, I can boil 12 ounces of water in 65 seconds in the Revere Designer's Group teakettle, one of the most beautiful ever made, IMHO. Once it boils, I pour it into the Corning 3 cup teapot to steep. With the 3500 watt element, two servings of frozen mixed vegetables in a bit of water reach a full boil in one minute. I love electric resistance cooking, but just cannot help but be amazed at the speed and efficiency of induction. I don't use induction for sauteeing-type operations because I don't need more power than the resistance units offer, but I do use it for French-Frying because the units can be set to hold a temperature as well as heat quickly. Every time I put frozen vegetables on to cook, I remember back to the 50s and early 60s when frozen vegetables came frozen in a block of ice in those little square wax board boxes and how long it took to get them defrosted and up to a boil on the gas range with the burner on high and all of the heat going up the side of the pan.
 
And ...

"Commercial gas ranges are a different story; they have greater heat output on their burners. But they use about triple the gas, they often require special support construction for the floor underneath them, and they are absolute Hell to clean."

And for those "high end" residential applications, they require extra insulation, more distance from flammable cabinetry, and more ventilation.
 
Induction

With the 3000 watt induction element, I can boil 12 ounces of water in 65 seconds in the Revere Designer's Group teakettle, one of the most beautiful ever made, IMHO. Once it boils, I pour it into the Corning 3 cup teapot to steep. With the 3500 watt element, two servings of frozen mixed vegetables in a bit of water reach a full boil in one minute. I love electric resistance cooking, but just cannot help but be amazed at the speed and efficiency of induction. I don't use induction for sauteeing-type operations because I don't need more power than the resistance units offer, but I do use it for French-Frying because the units can be set to hold a temperature as well as heat quickly. Every time I put frozen vegetables on to cook, I remember back to the 50s and early 60s when frozen vegetables came frozen in a block of ice in those little square wax board boxes and how long it took to get them defrosted and up to a boil on the gas range with the burner on high and all of the heat going up the side of the pan.
 
Lamont ...

"I would assume Julia Child used an electric on set because most studio's probably do not have a gas line run into them and electric is "safer" for the crew."

In New York City, television studios need special permits and variances for open flame cooking; they essentially need to be designed to comply as commercial-grade kitchens. You cannot simply put a gas burner into any television studio and presto! you have a cooking segment or show.
 
Permits and Variances:

The situation Matt alludes to also pertains to cooking-school installations in retail spaces, which is the sort of venue where I taught.

We could have put gas in, but it would have been far costlier and taken longer.

Sadly, we had some real problems when a new teaching kitchen went in, because the store's owner (a total non-cook, and damned proud of it) decided she knew better than I, and ordered high-end Gaggenau appliances. The oven was convection and the cooktop halogen.

After quite a few disasters where guest teachers didn't cope with the "personality" of the Gaggenau stuff well, it became clear something needed to be done. The halogen cooktop was a particular problem, because it had a weird heating curve - it took forever to do anything at all, then all at once - BOOM! - it became blast-furnace hot.

The last straw came when a guest teacher wished to use a stovetop fryer, and did not listen to my instructions on the halogen. A veritable Vesuvius of hot peanut oil erupted when the halogen got cranking, flooding the countertop (Corian, no harm done) and threatening the safety of students sitting up front.

After that, I got listened to - we got a Kenmore wall oven with self-cleaning and a Thermador open-coil top that fit the Gaggenau equipment's cut-outs.

I also advised students against halogen (at the time, the latest "buzzword" in cooktops) after that, telling them that it had quite a personality, and that I didn't feel that stoves were entitled to a personality.

Halogen is all but dead as a cooktop heat source, and if I had anything to do with that, I'm happy.
 
I do not.

When we lived in the country, we had to have Propane. My step-dad was deathly afraid of Propane, he would not allow a tank on his property, everything had to be electric, oil, or wood.

Now as far as likes, I prefer gas fired hot water, Furnace. And Electric stove, dryer.
 
Madeline Kamin had a cooking show on PBS for a brief time in the 90s, maybe. She had an electric cooktop. She never said anything about it, but the next season, she proudly announced on the first program that she was thrilled to be cooking on a new gas cooktop. About halfway through the show, she was melting and shortly thereafter made some comment about the studio being hot. If she had been from the south, she would have been "burning up" and "like to have died from the heat." She got her gas cooktop and all of its waste heat in spades! I wonder if they put more air conditioning in the studio before the next show.
 
Ugh! Sandy!

Why the hell would the store manager insist on installing such an exotic appliance inside a TEACHING kitchen? What's the point? Does it not make more sense to teach with equipment most of your students will be using in THEIR own kitchens?
 
Cooking shows used electric stovetops because of portability and insurance reasons.

In a 2004 survey of the Professional Chef's Association, 96% preferred gas stoves. Electric (at least radiant) simply does not have the response times needed by chefs. Induction obviously is another matter.
 
Most home cooks, however ...

... are not professional chefs.

They do not need accelerated response times because unlike professional chefs, they are not cranking out 500 different meals a night.
 
We switched from a gas range to an electric range with the ceramic cooktop 8 years ago.

The things I hate about it are: The slow response time, it's very easy to use too much heat and burn everything. (I'm the only one in the house whose really figured out how to use this thing the best). And if the cooktop and the underside of the cookware isn't completely clean it'll smell just awful for the first 5 minutes. (Others in the house aren't careful about this like I am).

The things I like about it are: Very quick to boil water, doesn't heat up the kitchen like gas does, can put a big pot of soup on and let it simmer overnight or even leave the house because you don't have an open flame to worry about, and it's easy to clean.

Personally the lack of easy regulation is a huge turn off to me and I still wanna go back to a gas range, preferably something with at least one very high BTU burner. I'm not worried about the heat in our kitchen as it all just goes straight upstairs due to the more open layout anyway.
One thing I wouldn't go back to gas for is the oven, I just love the even heating our electric oven provides, so I would be looking at a dual fuel range if this current range ever gets replaced.
 
I seem to recall an interview where Julia Child said something to the extent of preferring electric over gas in a home environment. Something about how the typical residential electric stove has more output then gas. Anyone else recall a similar statement or quote?

I like the comments on how electric resistance cooking isn't "controllable". Seems to me that once you get an electric stove you really don't use a double boiler much afterwards... This implies more control to me.

The argument that "gas is what pros use" holds no merit to me, commercial cooking is totally different. I don't have slick tires on my car even though "pro" drivers use them almost exclusively.

Clearly its possible to cook at high levels on any heat source if one is able to adapt and learn. Many of the comments in favor of gas cooking are less based in facts and more in just "I don't like it". Nothing wrong with that, it is personal choice, but the debate would be best if it was presented as such.

I'm in no way afraid of gas cooking, but I'd never want it in my home. Outdoors or under a big stainless hood with a couple horsepower of blowers only.

It is a pity that this thread did take a left turn into "my religion is perfect and yours sucks" though.
 
A good coil cook top is every bit as impressive as a good electric oven and broiler although quality cookware with a flat base makes a big difference in performance. Electric ranges and electric cooking should not be judged by ceramic cook tops nor by those primitive solid disc elements. Both were marketed at housekeepers who did not like to clean the reflector pans under the elements but they were actually much harder to maintain. The exception was the Corning top used with Corning CookMates. Our reflector pans went in the dishwasher a couple of nights a week, not because food boiled over but just to keep them clean.
 

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