launderess
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Look what MieleUSA has got to replace the short lived W48XX series.
http://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/PW6065WH.html
http://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/PW6065WH.html
Ahhh! Something New Has Been Added!
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This is a semi pro machine. It was on the web page even in the times of the w48xx times, I think...
ozzie908
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Its nearly identical to my
PW6065 the only difference I can see is it has an off switch mine lives in standby when finished with and goes dark with just the start button slowly flashing.
If its as reliable as the commercial version then its worth every penny.
Austin
PW6065 the only difference I can see is it has an off switch mine lives in standby when finished with and goes dark with just the start button slowly flashing.
If its as reliable as the commercial version then its worth every penny.
Austin
I hope mine outlive me, but it's nice to know there is still a 230 volt Miele available here.
Yes it's a great machine but for that kind of money---
That machine is in need of just four more cycles--
1) Drying- with variable temperatures of course to meet all fabric needs
2) Garment folding- should be self explanatory (hey, we can dream...so why not)
3) Laundry collector- the machine collects the laundry from around the house
4) Laundry return- puts the clothes back where they came from all nice and clean!!
Let's be real here...If you're going to spend that kind of money for a machine...wouldn't you expect it to do everything for you...it's not too much to ask for.
LOL
That machine is in need of just four more cycles--
1) Drying- with variable temperatures of course to meet all fabric needs
2) Garment folding- should be self explanatory (hey, we can dream...so why not)
3) Laundry collector- the machine collects the laundry from around the house
4) Laundry return- puts the clothes back where they came from all nice and clean!!
Let's be real here...If you're going to spend that kind of money for a machine...wouldn't you expect it to do everything for you...it's not too much to ask for.
LOL
Could any of our European friends tell us how expensive this is in its home market? Just curious. Though if I were in the market for a new machine it would be tempting....
launderess
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@henene4 's
Cannot ever recall seeing Miele's "Little Giants" on offer from a NYC much less anywhere else consumer website. Yes, the units have been around for ages, but do not think they were offered on AJMadison or elsewhere.
When one spoke with Miele earlier this year about what the plans were after the demise of 4XXX series, was told they were going to offer the "Little Giants".
MieleUSA also has rolled out the w3037 to replace the w3033, but didn't look at the differences.
L
Cannot ever recall seeing Miele's "Little Giants" on offer from a NYC much less anywhere else consumer website. Yes, the units have been around for ages, but do not think they were offered on AJMadison or elsewhere.
When one spoke with Miele earlier this year about what the plans were after the demise of 4XXX series, was told they were going to offer the "Little Giants".
MieleUSA also has rolled out the w3037 to replace the w3033, but didn't look at the differences.
L
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Looks nice but...
This is my next dream: http://mieleprofessional.ca/ca/prof/products/33_31517.htm
I guess I should start saving my pennies now.
http://mieleprofessional.ca/ca/prof/products/33_31517.htm
This is my next dream: http://mieleprofessional.ca/ca/prof/products/33_31517.htm
I guess I should start saving my pennies now.
http://mieleprofessional.ca/ca/prof/products/33_31517.htm
<a name="start_49058.710459">Could any of our European friends tell us how expensive this is in its home market?</a>
Starting from 4 000 USD and up - depending on where you look.
Alex
Starting from 4 000 USD and up - depending on where you look.
Alex
Could any of our European friends tell us how expensive this
Around £3,200 here, great washers, although its the only Miele washer I remember having a recall notice, the first series had an issue with steamy hot foamy water spewing out of the soap dispenser on a boil wash if sudzlocked on the first spin!!, it was soon remedied with the update facility!!
Around £3,200 here, great washers, although its the only Miele washer I remember having a recall notice, the first series had an issue with steamy hot foamy water spewing out of the soap dispenser on a boil wash if sudzlocked on the first spin!!, it was soon remedied with the update facility!!
That update applied to some residential units as well...
Thanks
Wow, I thought maybe we were being ripped off, but we're actually getting a good deal. Although Euro prices would include VAT and we'd have to add sales tax. Or can you get around that by ordering from AJ. Madison?
Wow, I thought maybe we were being ripped off, but we're actually getting a good deal. Although Euro prices would include VAT and we'd have to add sales tax. Or can you get around that by ordering from AJ. Madison?
Well, see them online here for about 2400€, same the vented dryer matching. The condensor is about 300€ more, the WP version starts at 3200€ I think.
The stachs are nice, but coast 12000€ IIRC, for that, get 2 octoPlus modells seperate and youre about 2000€ cheaper, I think...
The stachs are nice, but coast 12000€ IIRC, for that, get 2 octoPlus modells seperate and youre about 2000€ cheaper, I think...
Mike, I am amazed at the technological advances between my W1918 and the W1986 next to it and that this model would need a modification once it got into the field. The 1986 has some sort of variable speed motor control so that it accelerates slowly enough to deal (95% of the time) with suds in the first spin after the wash. The only thing it ever had trouble with was the bath sheets making too much foam, but most of the time, it will come up to spin slowly enough to get rid of a large portion of the wash water in the load before it speeds up to where it would cause foaming. The 1918 has short bursts of acceleration after the early rinses followed by long drain periods to get rid of any foam. As the rinses progress, it can do more spinning, but it does not gradually accelerate like the 1986. Each spin starts with a short burst of speed and then the drain. Funny that the model under discussion had these problems, but you can see that putting that large a drum in a 24 inch wide cabinet would take extra engineering. My Mieles have always drained the dispenser compartment at the front and the rear of the compartment is some sort of vent or belch chamber for the drain because funny noises come from back there during pump operation.
My Creda is still working, but I only use it for one or at most two loads a week, usually for the perma-press dress shirts on the "C" program with slow spin selected. I hit the Super Wash button after the wash water drains to get deeper rinsing. While it is built lighter than the Mieles, it still performs well.
My Creda is still working, but I only use it for one or at most two loads a week, usually for the perma-press dress shirts on the "C" program with slow spin selected. I hit the Super Wash button after the wash water drains to get deeper rinsing. While it is built lighter than the Mieles, it still performs well.
launderess
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Night & Day
Though one fought the good fight against "modern" computer controlled units, the Lavamat is vastly better than my Miele 1070 in many ways.
First and foremost it accelerates spinning slowly and if it detects excess froth or water things will slow down or even stop. Then pump will keep working whilst machine drum goes to and fro then starts up slowly spinning again. For towels and any other load that is very absorbent this is a god send. On the Miele it simply slows down spinning and keeps the pump going. However if the spin cycle times out that is all she wrote, laundry is going to be rinsed with that soapy water still in the tub and sump.
The manual for "Big Bertha" suggests that for heavy loads such as towels the machine should be slightly under loaded, you now know why.
Though one fought the good fight against "modern" computer controlled units, the Lavamat is vastly better than my Miele 1070 in many ways.
First and foremost it accelerates spinning slowly and if it detects excess froth or water things will slow down or even stop. Then pump will keep working whilst machine drum goes to and fro then starts up slowly spinning again. For towels and any other load that is very absorbent this is a god send. On the Miele it simply slows down spinning and keeps the pump going. However if the spin cycle times out that is all she wrote, laundry is going to be rinsed with that soapy water still in the tub and sump.
The manual for "Big Bertha" suggests that for heavy loads such as towels the machine should be slightly under loaded, you now know why.
launderess
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You Can Find Used Miele "Little Giants" on CL
Have posted listings before and Florida seems to be prime hunting territory. Many those units seem to come from yachts or ships which given the money found in South Florida makes sense.
Problem with Little Giant washers and dryers is their unusual for the USA power requirements. Did not look at the unit listed on AJMadison to see if things have changed.
Have posted listings before and Florida seems to be prime hunting territory. Many those units seem to come from yachts or ships which given the money found in South Florida makes sense.
Problem with Little Giant washers and dryers is their unusual for the USA power requirements. Did not look at the unit listed on AJMadison to see if things have changed.
Nope, they are dryer like connection I think, haveing a heater of 6kw I think,enabling the heaven of 195° washes. Ones washed whites on that you will never like to miss it again. *ahhhh, what a dream of the smell of a boil wash*
arbilab
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6kW boil heaters in a country where electric costs 3x what it does here? Quite the extravagance. Try this:
Wash half your bedding in the 6kW heater, fold and set aside. Wash the other half as follows. Half fill the washer with tap hot (120F). Add detergent and 6 drops food-grade iodine (Lugol's), stir. Add bedding and complete fill and cycle. Fold and compare smells. Iodine kills EVERYthing, and does not attack fabric like sodium hypochlorite does. Substantially cheaper than boiling at 35c/kWh.
Wash half your bedding in the 6kW heater, fold and set aside. Wash the other half as follows. Half fill the washer with tap hot (120F). Add detergent and 6 drops food-grade iodine (Lugol's), stir. Add bedding and complete fill and cycle. Fold and compare smells. Iodine kills EVERYthing, and does not attack fabric like sodium hypochlorite does. Substantially cheaper than boiling at 35c/kWh.
The heater is more about getting water hot fast. Miele's Little Giants have cycle times like Speed Queens and consumers in this country expect the water be warm or hot (not necessarily boiling) throughout the wash. Even with hot fill, which these units have, a powerful heater is better than a weak one.
I have used commercial front load washers that lacked proper heating in the past and - even with hot water going in - the actual wash was only warm.
Alex
I have used commercial front load washers that lacked proper heating in the past and - even with hot water going in - the actual wash was only warm.
Alex
I`ve tried the iodine (Povidone) as suggested in another thread for a smelly shower curtain and it worked very well indeed.
Still would not use it on a regular basis, because I don`t know much about it`s safety.
I wonder if there might be another reason apart from possible staining of whites why it is normally not used for laundry?
Thyroid problems from long term exposure on the skin come to my mind as well as possible environmental risks. Maybe it effects the needed bacteria in waste water treatment? I don`t know.
As to 6kW heaters and energy costs, it`s just about quick heating in a commercial washer.
A boil wash in that Miele PW6065 should not exceed 2 to 3 kWh, that is approximately the same as an average US toploader consumes on a warm wash when connected to an electric water heater.
Still would not use it on a regular basis, because I don`t know much about it`s safety.
I wonder if there might be another reason apart from possible staining of whites why it is normally not used for laundry?
Thyroid problems from long term exposure on the skin come to my mind as well as possible environmental risks. Maybe it effects the needed bacteria in waste water treatment? I don`t know.
As to 6kW heaters and energy costs, it`s just about quick heating in a commercial washer.
A boil wash in that Miele PW6065 should not exceed 2 to 3 kWh, that is approximately the same as an average US toploader consumes on a warm wash when connected to an electric water heater.
Think that 3kWh on cold fill are okay. Keep in mind: The heater on this washer just runs about 20-30min on a boilwash. Our Panasonic uses about 2.5kWh for a full 8kg boil wash, but 100l+ with the 3rd rinse on, and water coast way more arround here...
arbilab
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6 drops of iodine solution in 6 gal of water, followed by several rinses, is not going to leave a problematic (health) residue in finished laundry. I mean like, JMO, I'm not a physiologist.
Iodine is indeed a potent stain/dye. But again, see dilution ratio above. I've used it in laundry and didn't notice anything turning red.
DID notice the "fresher than fresh (city) air" smell, whereas chlorine leaves a chemical-factory smell and literally eats fabrics.
Just a suggestion anyhow.
Iodine is indeed a potent stain/dye. But again, see dilution ratio above. I've used it in laundry and didn't notice anything turning red.
DID notice the "fresher than fresh (city) air" smell, whereas chlorine leaves a chemical-factory smell and literally eats fabrics.
Just a suggestion anyhow.
This week a doctor was on TV, she said all the sanitizing was a bit overkill. There is little chance that you get a flu or so from laundry that has been washed well. A whole different thing is for instance dustmites. They are much harder to get rid of. Does iodine kill dustmites?
arbilab
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According to internet sources, temperatures above 130F/55C kills dust mites. This need not take place in the wash phase, as almost all dryers reach or exceed that temperature. I don't know how well a dilution of iodine low enough not to stain would kill them or their eggs.
*I think* we got the whole 'boil wash' idea from hospitals. Which are trying to keep people from catching diseases they didn't come in with. IOW, other people's bugs. Yet hospitals are notorious places to get sick with things you didn't have to start with. Despite all their heroic measures.
OTOH, if your clothes and bedding didn't make you sick when you were using them, why would they make you sick after washing them? They're not 'other people's', they're YOURS or your immediate family's.
If one means commercial laundromat machines, run them empty through the hottest cycle with a heavy dose of sodium hypochlorite to kill 'other people's' bugs before putting YOUR stuff in. That in fact is what I do, now that I am reduced to living in an institution which prohibits private laundry machinery.
*I think* we got the whole 'boil wash' idea from hospitals. Which are trying to keep people from catching diseases they didn't come in with. IOW, other people's bugs. Yet hospitals are notorious places to get sick with things you didn't have to start with. Despite all their heroic measures.
OTOH, if your clothes and bedding didn't make you sick when you were using them, why would they make you sick after washing them? They're not 'other people's', they're YOURS or your immediate family's.
If one means commercial laundromat machines, run them empty through the hottest cycle with a heavy dose of sodium hypochlorite to kill 'other people's' bugs before putting YOUR stuff in. That in fact is what I do, now that I am reduced to living in an institution which prohibits private laundry machinery.
Indeed, I don't use boilwashes to often anyway. But sometimes, it is just the non plus ultra. Tell me a stain that cant be removed in 195° wash for 30min with a prewash and some LCB or stuff like that.
The most common boilwash-load I do are our mops and cleaning clothes. Next would be white bedsheets followed by the pillows and blankets. Sheets because they smell just genious and are brighter then you can get them on any other way (without heavy chemical use) after the 30 min of heaven, pillows because of there volume (keep in mind, your pillows core temperature needs to exceed 65° for 10 min to get genaral kill of all dustmites) and blankets because they get pretty fast yellow because of the sweat in them...
The most common boilwash-load I do are our mops and cleaning clothes. Next would be white bedsheets followed by the pillows and blankets. Sheets because they smell just genious and are brighter then you can get them on any other way (without heavy chemical use) after the 30 min of heaven, pillows because of there volume (keep in mind, your pillows core temperature needs to exceed 65° for 10 min to get genaral kill of all dustmites) and blankets because they get pretty fast yellow because of the sweat in them...
Before bleaching products existed, boiling was the only way to whiten cotton. North of where I live is Savage, MD. where there was a textile mill on the river from the earliest days of this country where they made sailcloth and in the history of the mill, a big event was when they got the boiler so that the cotton could be whitened. High temp washes were used mainly to whiten cottons and linens, not to sanitize although that was a side effect.
Yep, and today it's the opposite of it in the most cases...
