Airing their Wet Laundry
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toggleswitch1
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CT has the most expensive electricity?
I thought it was roughly
Hawaii
Long Island, NY
NYC
L.A.
...in that order.
I'm sure each residence has a way of making their clotheslines less visible to others and somewhat aesthetically acceptable.
My mother still associates them with poverty and lack in her country of birth and refuses to have one. She also beleives the dryer is cleaner in her location in NYC.
I thought it was roughly
Hawaii
Long Island, NY
NYC
L.A.
...in that order.
I'm sure each residence has a way of making their clotheslines less visible to others and somewhat aesthetically acceptable.
My mother still associates them with poverty and lack in her country of birth and refuses to have one. She also beleives the dryer is cleaner in her location in NYC.
laundromat
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I prefer to hang my clothes outside.They dry faster and smell better especialy socks,towels,shirts and bed clothes.Why would any state or town n ot allow outside drying?????It's better for your clothes as well as your environment.I believe we have a lot to "Gain".I also think they should give the right to outdoor drying to us "All".Some people's views on this matter are "Tide".However,I'm sure they'll"Bounce"back once they see the truth and then we can "All" "Cheer"once they see how our positive "Drive"in persuing this matter will make a "Final Touch"to be sure this law gets past.Let's take a "Fresh Start"now.If we make a "Dash"for it,maybe then we can begin an entirely new "Era"in drying our clothes outdoors again.
danemodsandy
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While...
...I am no fan of line-dried clothes (to me, they're scratchy), I have been P.O.'ed for some years that there are localities that prohibit- or seek to prohibit- clotheslines. It's not so much the energy savings- it's the refusal of some people to deal with reality. There is a certain kind of person who wants the world remade the way they think it should be, and that's a mentality I can't abide. If someone wants a clothesline, I believe that's their right- there were clotheslines for centuries before there were dryers, which have only been commonplace for about sixty years. Lady Mendl (Elsie de Wolfe) had a drying yard at her house in Beverly Hills; her clothesline had its poles spiral-striped, a bit like barber poles. And Elsie knew from elegant!
There are some folks in this world I want to snatch out of their McMansioned, malled, SUV'ed, cellphoned little world, and set 'em down in some Third World country for a little while, so that they can see that their life is the exception, not the rule.
...I am no fan of line-dried clothes (to me, they're scratchy), I have been P.O.'ed for some years that there are localities that prohibit- or seek to prohibit- clotheslines. It's not so much the energy savings- it's the refusal of some people to deal with reality. There is a certain kind of person who wants the world remade the way they think it should be, and that's a mentality I can't abide. If someone wants a clothesline, I believe that's their right- there were clotheslines for centuries before there were dryers, which have only been commonplace for about sixty years. Lady Mendl (Elsie de Wolfe) had a drying yard at her house in Beverly Hills; her clothesline had its poles spiral-striped, a bit like barber poles. And Elsie knew from elegant!
There are some folks in this world I want to snatch out of their McMansioned, malled, SUV'ed, cellphoned little world, and set 'em down in some Third World country for a little while, so that they can see that their life is the exception, not the rule.
danemodsandy
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P.S.:
I forgot to mention- I have a neighbour like this. She's always hollering about anything real going on in the area, like someone putting up a storage building, or even washing their own car in their driveway. Says that kind of thing is "downscale" and that it "destroys" property values.
I've taken to calling her Veda Pierce.
I forgot to mention- I have a neighbour like this. She's always hollering about anything real going on in the area, like someone putting up a storage building, or even washing their own car in their driveway. Says that kind of thing is "downscale" and that it "destroys" property values.
I've taken to calling her Veda Pierce.
Does LA proper have high electric rates? They're a municipal utility, and there's usually significant pressure to keep rates down.
I'd love to have a clothesline, but our lot is set up so that we really don't have the room.
I'd love to have a clothesline, but our lot is set up so that we really don't have the room.
pturo
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I lived in Coral Gables, Florida.(Miami's Beverly Hills) It was illegal to have a clothesline, or a chain link fence,it had to be masonry. I had a clothesline anyway, my back yard was completely hedged and treed, so the code Nazi's never caught me.
danemodsandy
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Florida's Different Now...
Florida now has an express "right to dry" written into its State laws; it is now legal to put a clothesline on most residential properties, and it is illegal to enact covenants or other restrictions governing such properties that prohibit clotheslines. A link to the law is below.
Utah and Hawaii have laws that permit clotheslines most places, so long as they are "reasonably sited". That's a little more vague than Florida's law, and it could be interpreted to prohibit clotheslines in a given neighbourhood, since residents might declare themselves to be offended by the site of clotheslines (it could then be argued in court that the placement of the clothesline is made "unreasonably sited" as a result of the offence given to the overly prim and proper). But it's better than nothing.
For now, Florida is the nation's leader in clothesline rights, and it's to be hoped that other States will follow suit.
Florida now has an express "right to dry" written into its State laws; it is now legal to put a clothesline on most residential properties, and it is illegal to enact covenants or other restrictions governing such properties that prohibit clotheslines. A link to the law is below.
Utah and Hawaii have laws that permit clotheslines most places, so long as they are "reasonably sited". That's a little more vague than Florida's law, and it could be interpreted to prohibit clotheslines in a given neighbourhood, since residents might declare themselves to be offended by the site of clotheslines (it could then be argued in court that the placement of the clothesline is made "unreasonably sited" as a result of the offence given to the overly prim and proper). But it's better than nothing.
For now, Florida is the nation's leader in clothesline rights, and it's to be hoped that other States will follow suit.
rocketeer500
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I was wondering when they would legislate that....
I'm a firm believer in using a clothesline. I use a "pop-up umbrella" type for good weather that retracks and can be put out of the way and I have a line in the garage when it rains. I do admit, however, I dry all of my towels in the dryer; I don't like "crispy" towels.
I am a Board of Director for my homeowner's association, and we do have bylaws that address this issue. While our bylaws don't prevent anyone from using them, we do address the issue of unsightliness and where the placement can be: not in the common area(s); no ropes strapped to a common area tree; they must be "retractable" (pop-up type or retractable, such as wooden dryers)and they must be in working order (for pop-ups); and drying clothes can not be hung over fences or balconys.
We wrote these bylaws this way because we have large number of older residents who dry their clothes on a line. For us (The Board), it was a win-win situation.
Like Toggle said above, my mother refuses to use a clothes line. It remindes her of the poverty inwhich she grew up in... she rolls her eyes, everytime she comes over and sees my drawers "blowin'-in-the-breeze".
I'm a firm believer in using a clothesline. I use a "pop-up umbrella" type for good weather that retracks and can be put out of the way and I have a line in the garage when it rains. I do admit, however, I dry all of my towels in the dryer; I don't like "crispy" towels.
I am a Board of Director for my homeowner's association, and we do have bylaws that address this issue. While our bylaws don't prevent anyone from using them, we do address the issue of unsightliness and where the placement can be: not in the common area(s); no ropes strapped to a common area tree; they must be "retractable" (pop-up type or retractable, such as wooden dryers)and they must be in working order (for pop-ups); and drying clothes can not be hung over fences or balconys.
We wrote these bylaws this way because we have large number of older residents who dry their clothes on a line. For us (The Board), it was a win-win situation.
Like Toggle said above, my mother refuses to use a clothes line. It remindes her of the poverty inwhich she grew up in... she rolls her eyes, everytime she comes over and sees my drawers "blowin'-in-the-breeze".
polkanut
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Remember Dolores Claiborne taking bedsheets off the line in winter? I'll never surrender to any rule that takes away my right to line-dry my laundry. Just one more reason that I want no part of any homeowners' associations.
I would have never known there were 'laws' against using a clothesline had I not read about it at AW.ORG. I grew up in a town of 1,800 and currently live in a town of 4,500; The notion that you can be mandated not to use a clothesline seems crazy to me. Thank god there are no neighborhood associations around here.
toggleswitch1
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oh Miss Hathaway.........
~The notion that you can be mandated not to use a clothesline seems crazy to me.
Let me explain to you my observations and you can probably see why restrive closthsline covenants come into being. Some areas have cotheslines in the REAR yard/garden that are parrallel to each other with pulleys or are retractable and are generally located to be somewhat discrete. (read: not too shabby looking, overall)
Them you have the other type. Random lines all over the place (Including the FRONT yard/garden) in no discernable pattern, supported by twigs and wooden studs, tied to trees at different heights at each end. (Read: asethetics, zero to negative).
Still nothing beats one neigbor drying their underwear in the front yard (yes, with visible rude stains) while the other one has fish hanging out to dry/cure just a few meters/yards away. What turns my stomach is the excessive stench of fabric softener that really stinks badly, yet the clothes are not really clean.
Makes the Clampetts look like high society.
~The notion that you can be mandated not to use a clothesline seems crazy to me.
Let me explain to you my observations and you can probably see why restrive closthsline covenants come into being. Some areas have cotheslines in the REAR yard/garden that are parrallel to each other with pulleys or are retractable and are generally located to be somewhat discrete. (read: not too shabby looking, overall)
Them you have the other type. Random lines all over the place (Including the FRONT yard/garden) in no discernable pattern, supported by twigs and wooden studs, tied to trees at different heights at each end. (Read: asethetics, zero to negative).
Still nothing beats one neigbor drying their underwear in the front yard (yes, with visible rude stains) while the other one has fish hanging out to dry/cure just a few meters/yards away. What turns my stomach is the excessive stench of fabric softener that really stinks badly, yet the clothes are not really clean.
Makes the Clampetts look like high society.
laundromat
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Some people are afraid your underware will not show the racing trak marks that theirs do.You know how they say "keeping up with the Joneses" It's the same thing,They get pissed off if your clothes out on the line are whiter and brighter than theirs.It happened to me all the time.My next door neighbor,elsie,would always say I hung up a cleaner wash than she did.But,she used Trend and I used Dash.She used Pantry Pride chlorine bleach and would poor it in along with her detergent.I used Clorox and I waited until the final 6 minutes of the wash cycle to put it in.She used King Fluff fabric softner.I used Final Touch.Even today,my clothes always have a fresh aroma to them.I use Gain with Bleach and Suavetell fabric softner(yellow bottle) which smells like Gain.Sometimes I get asked"What kind of cholone are you wearing?" and I'll say"Gain"!They do a double take and laugh their asses off.
andrewinorlando
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Even though Florida has about the most progressive clothesline laws in the nation (it's an energy saving device, and energy saving devices may not be regulated by local governing bodies - only the state), homeowner associations still try like hell to tell residents they cannot have one. As some HOAs have found out, the expensive way, this doesn't fly. Several have been sued, and lost. And still they keep trying. You'd think they'd learn. It only incites people to mount their lines in "unsightly" places out of spite, instead of developing a spirit of cooperation about the whole thing.
While I don't own one, and will never dry clothes on a line (the dryer is much faster and more convenient, and, no ironing), if folks want a clothesline, they should be able to have a damned clothesline!!
While I don't own one, and will never dry clothes on a line (the dryer is much faster and more convenient, and, no ironing), if folks want a clothesline, they should be able to have a damned clothesline!!
Over here,
It isn't unknown for the management companies of blocks of flats to prohibit clotheslines, something I find ridiculous, especially in properties that aren't exactly upscale!
But using clotheslines is otherwise pretty much the norm in the UK. It's a beautiful afternoon where I am today, and looking out of the window both we and a half dozen other neighbours have the laundry merrily blowing in the breeze.
Even though she's quite well off, my mum will still use the line over the dryer if the weather is good. In fact, I remember about 25 years ago staying at a relative's house, where they had a dryer (we didn't, then). I remember my grandma and mum being horrified that they only ever used the dryer, even on a nice day!
I don't have a dryer at the moment, and only really miss it if it's raining and I have to hang my washing up indoors, especially as the washer I currently use only wrings! Drip, drip, drip...
It isn't unknown for the management companies of blocks of flats to prohibit clotheslines, something I find ridiculous, especially in properties that aren't exactly upscale!
But using clotheslines is otherwise pretty much the norm in the UK. It's a beautiful afternoon where I am today, and looking out of the window both we and a half dozen other neighbours have the laundry merrily blowing in the breeze.
Even though she's quite well off, my mum will still use the line over the dryer if the weather is good. In fact, I remember about 25 years ago staying at a relative's house, where they had a dryer (we didn't, then). I remember my grandma and mum being horrified that they only ever used the dryer, even on a nice day!
I don't have a dryer at the moment, and only really miss it if it's raining and I have to hang my washing up indoors, especially as the washer I currently use only wrings! Drip, drip, drip...
It's terribly true!!
In my part of CT last year my electric rates went up 50%. My electric bill is outrageously high every month. With it being winter I am barely using electricity and have dropped my electric usage 50% since last year which yields me a consistent $200+ electric bill every month. Between that and the $500 oil bills every 6 weeks I feel like I am working to pay the oil and electric companies..Can't wait for summer to get my air conditioning bill
P.S. The clothesline will get HEAVY usage this summer LOL
Geoff
In my part of CT last year my electric rates went up 50%. My electric bill is outrageously high every month. With it being winter I am barely using electricity and have dropped my electric usage 50% since last year which yields me a consistent $200+ electric bill every month. Between that and the $500 oil bills every 6 weeks I feel like I am working to pay the oil and electric companies..Can't wait for summer to get my air conditioning bill
P.S. The clothesline will get HEAVY usage this summer LOL Geoff
I for one am very happy to see that someone is trying to do something about the rediculous laws about drying clothes outside. In an era where so many are 'saying' they are so concerned about energy consumption, the dryer is one of the biggest hogs of energy in a home. In my family, we have always dried clothes outside when weather permits, both to save energy, and to have that wondeful fragrance that only line drying can do. Our clothes are NOT stiff either, on a windy day, the clothes get fluffed more than in a dryer, and if you do have a dryer, a few minutes with towels in the dryer, then hang them out, and they are fluffy. As for a dryer saving time, my dryer takes almost an hour and a half a load to dry. I can get 3 loads on the line, leave them, and when I am ready, pull them in. I don't have to 'rush' to prevent wrinkles because the dryer is finished, they don't get wrinkled on the line. I find with a family of 5 that I can get my laundry done much 'faster' by using my line. If I were in an apartment, I could understand the issue, but because I am fortunate enough to have a yard, I can have a nice line, fresh clothes, and save energy and money at the same time.
I say the HOUSEHOLDER should be the one to decide if they want a clothesline or an antenna for the TV(They will make a comeback for HiDef terristrial local TV)Sat dishes and "Ham" radio antennas.If the "HOA's" dont"t like that---TOUGH!Live in the REAL world.And yes--clotheslines can help save energy-THAT YOU should have that choice-and the antennas as far as I am concerned should be protected under the 1st Amendment.TV and radio antennas are the ways people use to communicate in the 21th century world-rmember there was TV antennas on EVERY rooftop-did anyone complain?They were taken for granted.Same as today.In fact the FCC does grant rights to householders to install sat dishes even if the HOA doesn't allow them.I feel the new FCC law should have "Teeth" allowing the HOA to be FINED if they don't allow the homeowner to install his dish or antenna.
beadsobleach
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Desert Air
Maybe I should string up a line in the back yard, this desert dry heat would dry clothes in no time, cut down on the electric bill. Time to go retro!
Maybe I should string up a line in the back yard, this desert dry heat would dry clothes in no time, cut down on the electric bill. Time to go retro!
