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Heads Up: Appears Henkel has reformulated regular All.  Bought a bottle to try and indeed it has more 'ump' to it than the old formula. Washed some really dirty yard-work clothes and it cleaned noticeably better. They changed the scent too, now called Sunshine Fresh, smells a bit weaker, toned down, but better. There is only a slight smell after clothes are dried. Did not see anything on their website though that it has been reformulated. I'm wondering what they changed. 

 

I did experience a mild skin reaction to clothing laundered in the detergent, so I'll be sticking with the Free & Clear version. 

 

Have been a big user of the All Free & Clear version the last couple of years. Thought it cleaned a lot better than the regular formula, had put it through the tests! Lol.  My Dr had recommended the Free version to me as I have developed skin issues since I've gotten older. Since I've gotten used to the Free & Clear version, it's been hard for me to go back to anything strongly scented.

 

Just wanted to pass along the heads up.

 

Barry

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skin reaction

I have psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis. (Currently no symptoms except a tiny spot on one arm.)

I have to be VERY careful with detergents.

I have never found a liquid detergent that didn't make me itch and get a rash. Even unscented, hypo-allergenic, organic, sensitive formula, whatever claim is made on it, liquids make me itch. That is after a warm wash in the Miele, with water plus selected.

I use sensitive powders in warm to hot water, longish wash, and have no problems.

This is my current favourite:

 
My sister has bad allergies and has used All Free and Clear for years with extra rinses; so does another friend. Mom always gave laundry an extra rinse because of her allergies and the service techs used to remark how free of corrosion and buildup our machines were.

By using STPP, I am able to use less detergent and stuff rinses better. I just have this sneaking suspicion that liquid detergents leave more behind because I see foam in the rinse; my craziness, I know. I mainly use Tide Original powder, 2 coffee measures or 1/4 cup and one coffee measure of STPP. I opened the 180 load box 1-17-2021 and it has maybe a week or two left. I will separate the cardboard liner from the outer part of the box and get a couple more washes out of what's hiding there. For bath sheets only, I use Persil Universal powder, one oz by the little measure included in the 44 load box opened 3-16-19 that is still more than half full, and one and a half coffee measures of STPP. The Persil powder is lower sudsing than the Tide for the foam enhancing towels.
 
" better liquid detergents seem difficult to rinse off your hands."

Most TOL liquid detergents nowadays are highly concentrated compared to offerings of old. Less water and more surfactants and other chemicals.

If you compare dosages of liquid detergents from years ago, and or even bottom shelf products like "Xtra" to say Tide or Persil, you'll notice it takes much less of the latter.

This concentration likely also explains why some liquid or gel detergents can be so difficult to rinse cleanly, especially if over dosed.
 
All has nearly always been a MOL detergent. This going back to "Bleach, Borax, and Brighteners" days of old, I mean All was never in same league as say Tide.

If Henkel is stepping up All's game, then one wonders what else they have up their sleeves. For USA market Persil is their TOL product. Wisk got the push, leaving just Purex making for only two laundry detergent brands.
 
Chris, I have wondered what exactly causes the skin irritations / breakouts, the dyes or the fragrances or a combination of both. Plus there is all kinds of chemicals that could as well. Strange that Persil did not break me out, but it has a stronger scent. P&G products have caused horrid reactions so I steer clear of their products at all cost. 

Read an article on skin allergies and detergents that stated many people associate the scent of clean laundry to the scent of the detergent, hence no fragrant scent equals no clean laundry. I wonder how they feel about motel / hotel towels and linens?!?! Many consider the fragrance of Tide the fragrance of clean laundry, and nothing else will suffice. This would explain why so many people get upset when a scent changes.

 

Laundress, I remember All in the days before the 3 B's, in the late 60's it was Cold Water All, it had a fabulous clean scent, but have no idea how well it cleaned. Have followed your posts carefully in the past on your experiences and observations of All. Interesting when you mentions Tide Gentle has a mask ingredient to block any scent whereas All does not.  Also interesting that the powder All turned your laundry a bluish greenish color.

 

Lastly, I hope Henkel does not tinker with the formula for the Free & Clear version. It cleans quite well as it is. It's a HUGE seller, many family members and neighbors use it faithfully. There have been times the stores shelves have been bare of the product.  In reformulating the regular version, I think it confirms all along what I suspected that the Free version did clean better. Was at the grocery store tonight and noticed the price difference between All and Persil, it was $5.00 more per same size jug. For the price difference, All cleans just fine. I think Persil cleans some better but not that much. I may try different brands but I always come back to All Free & Clear, it's my mainstay.

 

Barry

 

[this post was last edited: 8/3/2021-21:22]
 
Cold Water All

Was listed as a low sudsing detergent in the manual for the Kenmore combos of the late sixties, maybe through to the end of the line. Back when Wisk came in a metal can with a little yellow cap, one capful was sufficient to clean full size loads in a neighbor's giant 33 inch WP combo, but the sump only held three gallons of water beyond what was needed to saturate the load.

Powder All's big selling point was that it was a low suds product that, if not the best at cleaning, did not hinder the circulation of the load in tumbler washers. We, like so many users of front loaders, did not notice inferior cleaning results, but as I have stated previously, our water heater was set at 160F.
 
Not to veer off topic but does modern liquids have any ingredients that protect washer parts ? At least powders soften the water but do any liquids out now get water slick without oversudsing ?
 
@ Laundress

"...If Henkel is stepping up All's game, then one wonders what else they have up their sleeves. For USA market Persil is their TOL product. Wisk got the push, leaving just Purex making for only two laundry detergent brands..."

Doesn't Henkle also make the "Sun" line of detergents?
 
Remember---all those private label detergents can be specified by the retailers using any formulation they can think of---obviously the bigger the retailer the more likely they've got the pull to get something custom, but you can certainly see how a good/better/best (no enzyme, single enzyme, multiple enzyme) lineup could be utilized by a retailer. I think Target has a no enzyme (Smartly) and a multiple (Up and Up) in their lineup...ditto for Meijer.
 

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