Used the words "defrosting the refrigerator" in front of a 30 year old, and got asked " what the hell are you talking about" I can't be alone in this? Someone here is still defrosting? Right ?
Am I the only one that's still is defrosting?
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norgeway
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I Was
And will be again as soon as I can get rid of this freezer burning monstrosity I have!I will never own a new appliance again!
And will be again as soon as I can get rid of this freezer burning monstrosity I have!I will never own a new appliance again!
I don't need to defrost--nor do I miss it-- but I understand the looks of bewilderment from the young. Try one of these phrases on them:
1. Wax the floor.
2. Thread the film projector.
3. Heat the leftovers for lunch (without a microwave).
4. Set the choke before you turn the key.
5. Adjust the vertical hold.
1. Wax the floor.
2. Thread the film projector.
3. Heat the leftovers for lunch (without a microwave).
4. Set the choke before you turn the key.
5. Adjust the vertical hold.
whirlcool
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And on my Dual turntable site I frequently see this one. "My grandfather gave me his turntable and record collection. How do you make the records make sound? Do I need to use the turntable? How does the turntable and records come together to make music?"
4a. Set the choke before you press the starter button.
I defrost my GE Combination, but it's not my daily driver so I don't have to do it more than two or three times a year.
A few more head-scratchers:
Dial tone
Rotary dial
Busy signal
Service station
Road map
Carburetor
Column shift (manual or automatic)
Double-clutch
Drive-in
Thank-you note
A few more head-scratchers:
Dial tone
Rotary dial
Busy signal
Service station
Road map
Carburetor
Column shift (manual or automatic)
Double-clutch
Drive-in
Thank-you note
mom11
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Count me in
I am still defrosting my 1957 GE combo. Just did it a few days ago. I actually like how it forces you to really clean the fridge. Also, used to defrost an 'only freezer' unit. No biggie, really. Honestly don't know what all the "no-frost" fuss is all about.
I also don't mind not having the "Self-cleaning" oven feature on my 1953 frigidaire stove. Spray, wait, and wipe. All there is to it. Benefits of having vintage reliable beauty far out weigh the cons.
I am still defrosting my 1957 GE combo. Just did it a few days ago. I actually like how it forces you to really clean the fridge. Also, used to defrost an 'only freezer' unit. No biggie, really. Honestly don't know what all the "no-frost" fuss is all about.
I also don't mind not having the "Self-cleaning" oven feature on my 1953 frigidaire stove. Spray, wait, and wipe. All there is to it. Benefits of having vintage reliable beauty far out weigh the cons.
I have one of those small, cheap, chest freezers that has to be defrosted. Not only are they still being manufactured, but when I began to search for a frost free replacement of the same size, they don't make them. So, defrosting isn't exactly a lost art yet.
Serierously-at one radio station-they had all digital based computer based programming systems-no TT's,cart machines,RR machines or even CD players.The DJ there asked what a CD and CD player was!He was like a 20 year old!And of course at other stations-what a record and TT was and how they worked.Showed them and even actually had them play a record on the TT.And also the RR tape decks.The younger DJ's didn't know these either-they would say"saw those in pictures-never used one!"So would give him a demo.After all the guy may end up at a station still using the older machines!Some stations still use cart machines,CD players,and even RR instead of the touchscreen "Scotts Studio" program on the computer-the younger guys will need to show me how to use THOSE!!!Then were even.Sort of have an idea.Just touch the screen for the item you need played over the air.Another touch function allows you to "audition" the cut off air before airing it.So I am beginning to understand.
Another-----Vacuum Tubes!!A young engineer at a station me And another fellow were checking their transmitter-an older AM one with viewing windows and tubes.The young fellow says---"So-the tube has a light in it so you can inspect it."I try to explain that a tube sort of works like a giant light bulb with other electrodes in it-so it can amplify.After drawing him a picture and showing him with the transmitter-than he starts to understand.I then say"If the light in the tube isn't glowing--the tube won't work."
mieleforever
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@ Frigilux
Well I got the first four but "Adjusting the vertical hold", can it be something to do with tuning of the old crt tv's ?
Liked your post.
Cheers
Well I got the first four but "Adjusting the vertical hold", can it be something to do with tuning of the old crt tv's ?
Liked your post.
Cheers
How about?
DOS prompt or HEX editor? And I'm not talking about today's DOS prompt. I'm talking about turning on the computer and that's where you end up. Lol
DOS prompt or HEX editor? And I'm not talking about today's DOS prompt. I'm talking about turning on the computer and that's where you end up. Lol
kenmoreguy89
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I of course do, and most people I know do that, new ones old ones....no difference, just did that this Sunday.
I had a box of chicken wings that was totally stuck in the frost.....
My refrigerator is 2 years old.....
I had a box of chicken wings that was totally stuck in the frost.....
My refrigerator is 2 years old.....
kenmoreguy89
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I of course do, and most people I know do that, new ones old ones....no difference, just did that this Sunday.
I had a box of chicken wings that was totally stuck in the frost.....
My refrigerator is 2 years old.....
I had a box of chicken wings that was totally stuck in the frost.....
My refrigerator is 2 years old.....
classiccaprice
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I defrost my 1957 Philco 2 or 3 times a year in my kitchen. Though, it isn't a lost art. That 30 year old never had a dorm fridge. I have to defrost one I use for school at least twice a year and it is less than 5 years old.
You're Not the Only One:
We still have a chest freezer that requires defrosting. Although, its a pain in the butt because of the tiled floor, and inaccessibility to the door :/ So we haven't dealt with it for about 2 years. It isn't opened very much anyhow - so its "all good," really.
Then theres the "beast," a Fisher and Paykel N388 'Frost-Free' unit. Well, a glacier has a tendency to grow (and has done since new) on the bottom right of the interior. So it gets defrosted every year, along with a bit of cleaning and scrubbing around the evaporator, checking for burning wires, and putting vaseline on the Evaporate cover seals. The evaporator is theoretically in the cabinet - not behind the walls or in the floor.
We still have a chest freezer that requires defrosting. Although, its a pain in the butt because of the tiled floor, and inaccessibility to the door :/ So we haven't dealt with it for about 2 years. It isn't opened very much anyhow - so its "all good," really.
Then theres the "beast," a Fisher and Paykel N388 'Frost-Free' unit. Well, a glacier has a tendency to grow (and has done since new) on the bottom right of the interior. So it gets defrosted every year, along with a bit of cleaning and scrubbing around the evaporator, checking for burning wires, and putting vaseline on the Evaporate cover seals. The evaporator is theoretically in the cabinet - not behind the walls or in the floor.
turquoisedude
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I still defrost!! The '56 GE Wall Refrigerator, the '62 Frigidaire Cycla-Matic and even the 2007 Danby chest freezer all need to be defrosted. I really don't like the way a frostless freezer dries up food - I don't mind the frost if the frozen veggies aren't all dried up when I go to use them.
The really sad thing is that when someone who has no idea about defrosting tries to do this, they usually wind up taking a hammer and chisel to the freezer compartment and wind up completely ruining the refrigerator. I worked in a property management company back in the 80s and even then, we had about a dozen calls a week from students who had 'defrosted' a refrigerator this way...
The really sad thing is that when someone who has no idea about defrosting tries to do this, they usually wind up taking a hammer and chisel to the freezer compartment and wind up completely ruining the refrigerator. I worked in a property management company back in the 80s and even then, we had about a dozen calls a week from students who had 'defrosted' a refrigerator this way...
danemodsandy
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This Isn't Uncommon:
In that part of my life that deals with writing and lecturing about movies, I've seen several incidences of young people being confused about things that were once societal norms, but aren't any more.
One that comes up with some frequency is in the Alfred Hitchcock film Rear Window, close to the end of the movie, when James Stewart plays a wheelchair-bound man who has to fend off an attacker. Stewart's character is a photographer, and he uses the only weapon he has at hand - a camera with a flash attachment - inserting one bulb after another and flashing again and again to momentarily blind the bad guy. Today's young people do not have a clue what Stewart is doing.
The all-time capper came at a museum lecture, where my remarks prefaced a screening of the 1963 film Charade, with Audrey Hepburn and Cary Grant. One of the questions was: "So, this Audrey Hepburn - was she like a star or something?"
I think that was the moment I went from collecting antiques to being one myself.
In that part of my life that deals with writing and lecturing about movies, I've seen several incidences of young people being confused about things that were once societal norms, but aren't any more.
One that comes up with some frequency is in the Alfred Hitchcock film Rear Window, close to the end of the movie, when James Stewart plays a wheelchair-bound man who has to fend off an attacker. Stewart's character is a photographer, and he uses the only weapon he has at hand - a camera with a flash attachment - inserting one bulb after another and flashing again and again to momentarily blind the bad guy. Today's young people do not have a clue what Stewart is doing.
The all-time capper came at a museum lecture, where my remarks prefaced a screening of the 1963 film Charade, with Audrey Hepburn and Cary Grant. One of the questions was: "So, this Audrey Hepburn - was she like a star or something?"
I think that was the moment I went from collecting antiques to being one myself.
mieleforever-- You are correct; it is an adjustment that had to be made on TVs back in the 1950s-60s.
Stan-- I forgot to add something to my first post: That's a beautiful old refrigerator, and it fits the style of your kitchen perfectly.
Stan-- I forgot to add something to my first post: That's a beautiful old refrigerator, and it fits the style of your kitchen perfectly.
washerboy
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my favoriate
Was in a flea market with my then 22 year old son the conversation went like this:
Son: "Daddy what is this? a phone?
Me: "yes it's a rotary phone"
Son: "How does it work?"
I still have
Was in a flea market with my then 22 year old son the conversation went like this:
Son: "Daddy what is this? a phone?
Me: "yes it's a rotary phone"
Son: "How does it work?"
I still have
I still have an upright WP freezer that has to be defrosted every few years. Since it is in an air conditioned house, the humidity is never what we had in our house in the mid 50s, before AC, when the old Frigidaire would have to be defrosted twice during the summer.
We have two upright freezers down cellar that are manual defrost. So we're still part of the manual defrosting family.
I can understand the whole concept of "generation gap". Things simply dont stay the same and every generation has their "thing" that sets them apart. Technology advances at an ever increasing rate it seems.
But dont parents talk to their children and tell them how it was years ago? Are todays children the most self-absorbed generation and simply dont have any interest in knowing either? I cant answer these questions myself. Im out of the loop as Im not a parent. But if I were I know Id try to instill an interest and understanding in my childern regarding the past.
I feel its very telling, and not in a good way, when young people today are completely clueless when it comes to how people lived generations ago. Or are completely unaware of terminology referring to common everyday objects, tasks, principles or the way in which people lived years ago.
I cant remember when I didnt know of such things. But then I always had a great interest in how things were "years ago". Is that the reason for the difference? I always not only listened when my parents or grandmothers talked about how it was when they were young but I also asked questions.
Maybe living in a rural area also had something to do with it. My parents, both in their late 80s now, made use of an outhouse when young. They both remember dirt roads. Both attended one room schools until they went to HS. Both remember when electric was installed.
My paternal grandmothers first powered washer was a 1933 Maytag with a gas engine as electricity wasnt yet available on their road. My maternal grandmother talked about having a washing machine on the farm that was hooked up to a dog powered treadmill. Monday was always wash day and if they didnt tie the dog up on Sunday night he wasnt to be found on Monday morning! He wasnt stupid!
As I said I always found these stories interesting and I listened. As a result Im very knowledgeable of the way things were all those years ago and how people lived.
Something valuable is being lost with todays younger generation and its sad.
I can understand the whole concept of "generation gap". Things simply dont stay the same and every generation has their "thing" that sets them apart. Technology advances at an ever increasing rate it seems.
But dont parents talk to their children and tell them how it was years ago? Are todays children the most self-absorbed generation and simply dont have any interest in knowing either? I cant answer these questions myself. Im out of the loop as Im not a parent. But if I were I know Id try to instill an interest and understanding in my childern regarding the past.
I feel its very telling, and not in a good way, when young people today are completely clueless when it comes to how people lived generations ago. Or are completely unaware of terminology referring to common everyday objects, tasks, principles or the way in which people lived years ago.
I cant remember when I didnt know of such things. But then I always had a great interest in how things were "years ago". Is that the reason for the difference? I always not only listened when my parents or grandmothers talked about how it was when they were young but I also asked questions.
Maybe living in a rural area also had something to do with it. My parents, both in their late 80s now, made use of an outhouse when young. They both remember dirt roads. Both attended one room schools until they went to HS. Both remember when electric was installed.
My paternal grandmothers first powered washer was a 1933 Maytag with a gas engine as electricity wasnt yet available on their road. My maternal grandmother talked about having a washing machine on the farm that was hooked up to a dog powered treadmill. Monday was always wash day and if they didnt tie the dog up on Sunday night he wasnt to be found on Monday morning! He wasnt stupid!
As I said I always found these stories interesting and I listened. As a result Im very knowledgeable of the way things were all those years ago and how people lived.
Something valuable is being lost with todays younger generation and its sad.
norgeway
Well-known member
The main thing is!
A Frost Free fridge does not keep frozen food...or fresh, nearly as well as a regular manual defrost one does, there is always a fan running which dries out fresh food, and a heater that softens frozen food, this see saw effect causes food quality to be lost !...also, an old manual defrost fridge uses much less power than a frost free, no matter what the salesmen try to tell you!!
A Frost Free fridge does not keep frozen food...or fresh, nearly as well as a regular manual defrost one does, there is always a fan running which dries out fresh food, and a heater that softens frozen food, this see saw effect causes food quality to be lost !...also, an old manual defrost fridge uses much less power than a frost free, no matter what the salesmen try to tell you!!
My fridge is maybe 3 or 4 years old, an "Oracle" brand made by Haier.
It is nothing special, chosen because it is particularly energy efficient and fitted in the space available.
It is a 220 litre 2-door, freezer on top.
It is MANUAL defrost in the freezer, cyclic defrost in fridge.
The freezer frost is slow to accumulate, I only need to defrost it every 12 to 18 months. And then it isn't a heavy layer.
The fridge compartment has the evaporator behind the back wall so the whole back wall of the fridge compartment frosts up lightly when operating and defrosts during the off-cycle. No defrost element needed, just heat leakage through the back wall.
I love it, such a step up from the previous fridge, an old (1960s) Electrolux Dometic gas fridge which weighed as much as a new small car.
http://www.haier.com.au/products/refrigerators/?productuid=0C7DED28-AE4D-C047-478FCBFEE494B300
It is nothing special, chosen because it is particularly energy efficient and fitted in the space available.
It is a 220 litre 2-door, freezer on top.
It is MANUAL defrost in the freezer, cyclic defrost in fridge.
The freezer frost is slow to accumulate, I only need to defrost it every 12 to 18 months. And then it isn't a heavy layer.
The fridge compartment has the evaporator behind the back wall so the whole back wall of the fridge compartment frosts up lightly when operating and defrosts during the off-cycle. No defrost element needed, just heat leakage through the back wall.
I love it, such a step up from the previous fridge, an old (1960s) Electrolux Dometic gas fridge which weighed as much as a new small car.
http://www.haier.com.au/products/refrigerators/?productuid=0C7DED28-AE4D-C047-478FCBFEE494B300
I have a Kenmore manual defrost freezer (about 7 yrs old) that I will be defrosting this weekend. In fact I just called a friend to ask if I could borrow her cooler to put the frozen food in. I have to defrost it about every 2 years or so.
Gary
Gary
I have a small chest freezer in the basement that needs to be manually defrosted. How do you speed up the defrosting? Last time I put a pot of hot water in the freezer and closed the lid. After a while I used a silicone spatula to remove the softened frost. It worked okay, but wonder if there is a better way.
iheartmaytag
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I still defrost the Manual defrost Deep Freeze
And can guarantee you when it poops out the next one will be larger and self-defrost.
I hate the dad-blasted thing.
And can guarantee you when it poops out the next one will be larger and self-defrost.
I hate the dad-blasted thing.
As well as using hot water I also use a blow dryer or the exhaust from the vacuum cleaner. I have a Rainbow so I can also use it to suck up the water.
I don't mind defrosting a small vintage fridge, the single door type with evaporator (so-called freezer) in one corner or the center, provided it's not my daily driver. I used to happily defrost my little '39 Westinghouse, which was a drinks fridge on the patio. If it was out of commission for a while, it made no difference.
On the other hand, a frosty type in the kitchen as my daily driver would be a bigger issue, and would have to be defrosted a lot more often. Very disruptive, even if it's like my '57 Combination where the fresh food section can remain undisturbed and the freezer has a drain in it.
I'm a big fan (no pun intended) of frost free, and have to disagree with the assertion that frost free freezers soften frozen items. That defrost cycle would have to be really long to thaw pretty much anything I've got in my freezer. I've also noticed that anything stored in the Combination's freezer that's packaged in a paper box (a frozen entree, for example) becomes damp and flimsy. I no longer store any items packaged that way in the combo's freezer. This doesn't happen in the big frosty Tru-Cold freezer in the basement, so it appears to be an issue with the Combination's system -- and I've checked the temperature in there. It's below zero.
Frost free means there's one less thing around the house that I have to do, and I like that.
On the other hand, a frosty type in the kitchen as my daily driver would be a bigger issue, and would have to be defrosted a lot more often. Very disruptive, even if it's like my '57 Combination where the fresh food section can remain undisturbed and the freezer has a drain in it.
I'm a big fan (no pun intended) of frost free, and have to disagree with the assertion that frost free freezers soften frozen items. That defrost cycle would have to be really long to thaw pretty much anything I've got in my freezer. I've also noticed that anything stored in the Combination's freezer that's packaged in a paper box (a frozen entree, for example) becomes damp and flimsy. I no longer store any items packaged that way in the combo's freezer. This doesn't happen in the big frosty Tru-Cold freezer in the basement, so it appears to be an issue with the Combination's system -- and I've checked the temperature in there. It's below zero.
Frost free means there's one less thing around the house that I have to do, and I like that.
