Am I the only one who still wash whites on 95°C?

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gorenje

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Hello folks.
I would like to know if am I the only one enjoying to wash whites on 95°C?

I love all kind of washing machines and I love doing laundry. I enjoy every wash load I do, but I enjoy the most when I have to wash some whites. And if possible I do this on 95°C. :)
Ingemar
 
I wash my whites at

tank temperature, which is about 145-150F, and I think (let me know all ye who live not in the States) that's about 60C. (Can't lay my mitts on my calculator at the moment.)

For me, 145F is hot enough. Perhaps if I was washing another person's whites with mine, I might bump up the temperature, but probably not.

Lawrence/Maytagbear
 
Hello Lawrence,
yes that's about 60°C. And in the States that woul be what for us over here is a "boilwash". But also here in Europe already a long time people wash whites at 60°C and no more at 95°C.
 
I wash my whites about the same temp as Lawrence, followed by an overnight soak (I use a high quality oxygen bleach instead of LCB). If my POS water heater went any higher, I'd be using higher temps for sure!
 
Thank you, Ingemar

I try to wash full loads in my toploading Maytag, and that's about 20 some gallons, and (quite a few litres).

Research from a source I totally trust (SudsMAN/Lee/Mac) says that temperature does help a lot in germ control, but better to wash (if one has to) at lower temperatures in an underloaded washer.

Another reason I do not usually go hotter is that I worry about the life of the elastic in underwear and socks.

Lawrence/Maytagbear
 
Mine get washed at anywhere from 130 degrees F to 155 degrees F, depending upon my mood and where I bump up my water heater to wash said whites. But I'm like Dan, I use a very high-quality oxygen bleach, not LCB to wash whites.
 
Glenn, I think he's talking about relativity here. For over there, 95 degrees C. is about as hot as they can wash their laundry. Over here, usually, 145-150 degrees F is about as hot as most people would ever get their water heater set as high and that's about as hot as we get our water for washing in hot water--prior to dumbed down temps in modern top loaders. which is why for a modern machine, I prefer a front loader because I have a chance to get to 131 degrees or 152 degrees, either Allergen or Sanitize cycles, respectively.
 
95c

Tried it...didn't make a difference, just lots more shrinking!

I wash bed sheets (pyjamas), towels, cloths etc at 60c, but all other clothes I was at 40c.

I've had too many tshirts shrink to use high temperatures in the washer or the dryer on normal clothes now!

Matt
 
 
I can't get higher than 140°F from my water heater.  I'd been doing whites at that (input) temp for some while, but have scaled back now to 122°F - 125°F (~50°C).  I had noticed some accelerated deterioration of elastic, but that may be attributable more to old clothes than higher temps, LOL.
 
I've tried it on some old white sheets....and it was great to see the start of 'bubbles' form in the washer...

...but I would agree that there is no benefit these days given:

- the efficiency of modern detergents
- the drop off of efficiency of enzymes over 60c (and sometimes before)
- that so many of our fabrics are synthetic blends or use synthetic thread
- cost to (any) benefit ratio

I never go higher than 60c having tried 95c once. Most items are washed at 40c in our house with sheets/towels washed at 60c.
 
"quite often", for me it is a cuople of times a mont

I use 95°C wash quite often when I'm washing kitchen stuff (all made of cotton and linen) as my flatmates are grossly dirty and my crappy whirlpool I have in Bologna doesn't shift stains very well in the absurdly long 60°C cycle (not that it washes any better on other cycles). I know that it uses the same energy as 2 washes at 60°C (in reality it would be 48°C) but that's the only way to have "automatic wash" and clean clothes at the same time (automatic wash = no pretreating, or additives involved; just drop in dirty and pickup clean).
 
Turn The Dial Down

Rarely do anything above 120F these days, just do not see the point.

Whites & colourfast load get a good dose of oxygen bleach (I've got enough forms and choices to start a dry goods store), and at least for linens and shirts/blouses ironing will add an extra measure of sanitation.

If the reason one is "boiling" all that laundry is for whiteness, then IMHO it is much better to use a good detergent that contains enzymes and oxygen bleach (or add it on it's own), and start from cool water gradually heated to "hot".

Generally because of my background in nursing, know that even 140F isn't going to "kill" much of anything, and that the purpose of heat is to help shift germs and their biofilm. One needs to wash laundry at temps >160F, and hold it there for at least twenty to ten minutes to make any serious germ killing happen. Even then there are plenty of bacteria, fungi, molds, and so forth that aren't bothered. For them you would need temps near 200F, to get the work done. Don't know about anyone else's household, but we do not own much that would withstand that sort of treatment as routine.

There is also the fact it is not just the water temperature, but how fast the washer reaches "boiling". Starting from cool or cold water and taking a long time to reach proper temps gives "germs" some advantage. As with any other living things, some will develop or find ways to protect themselves from being killed by heat. Once conditions on the ground are favorable, these surviors will come out of their shell and live to see another day. Since the field has been somewhat cleared, they also have lots of new territory and little competition.

Commercial steam or otherwise heated washing machines can reach "boil" temps *very* quickly. This surprise attack kills germs before they know what is coming.
 
Those old dryers ran real hot!

This is why I'm constantly carping about my LG running on 120V and not 220V.

I'd love to have a vintage Miele so I could run a boil wash once and a while, but I understand all of the risks that have been mentioned already. Having experienced it once in France, I know how effective it can be.

I wonder though, in terms of sanitation, when you run a load in one of those old dryers that get the laundry steaming hot before it's dry, does that achieve a lot of sanitizing?
 
Vintage Dryers Running "Hot'

Well they would have to, wouldn' they?

Like commercial laundromat dryers today, vintage tumble dryers had to content with wash loads that weren't extracted much beyond sopping wet. The only way to get them dry in a reasonable about of time is to blast them with very high heat.

Have all but given up on using local laundromat washers except for the odd comforter or quilt that won't fit in the Miele. Things come out so wet they take ages to dry, and even then one has to consider you are "baking in" whatever wasn't extracted during the final spin.

As a test once took a load that had been washed in local laundromat's 50lb washer home, and put the items (sateen sheets and pillow slips) into the spin dryer (extractor). Each load (about three sheets and four pillow cases) gave up over a pint of water. Contrasted with the Miele where the same comes in at <1/3 cup.
 
Hi DADoES :) I know the water boils at 100°C. I wanted to tell what has told appnut. Over here the max wash temp. is 95°C and in the States is about 60°C.

I am using a vintage front loader with cold fill only and a quality detergent that hase oxygen bleach in. I know that probably the whites would be washed as good at 60°C. But I think that the oxygen bleach is boosted when using 95°C and you achieve sparkling and spotless whites without any additives.
 
I used it all the time...

...when I had my old Asko. The new Whirlpool only does 160F...and I miss the 95C boil wash!!
 

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