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Happy New Year to everyone on AW.

Regarding the operating systems for Apple or Android which has better security in terms of virus protection and general Internet security?
 
Well Ben, you have just asked a seriously religious question. This could create an active thread similar to a FL vs TL kind of discussion.

While I spend very little time worrying about Internet security on all my platforms, I would generally wager that any Apple OS is likely to be less effected then a more open OS like the free Android system.

I have owned a home computer since 1981 and from the very early days I was an Apple basher. I hated the idea of how they had control over the whole environment as compared to other platforms that were more open. Back when I loved to play and tinker I felt penned in by Apple.

These days I have got to the point where I just want a device that works without my need to make it work. I think the Apple platform is better in this regard (both MacOS and iOS). I still use PC's (Win 7 & 10) at home and work though in addition to the Apple systems I have. The Apple systems are just more polished and the updates have always been completely trouble free and devoid of drama. By and large the Apple hardware is better built also. The i7 MacBook Pro I type on now also boots Win 7 and it is by far the best 'Windows' laptop I have ever owned ;)

My experience with Android devices was generally fairly negative although in fairness it was a few OS updates ago since I have really played with one. I have yet to see any Android backup/restore system that is as simple and easy as iTunes. I also find it interesting that I have about a dozen IT professionals in my close circle of friends, only 3 are Android fans. I also know one one friend at this point that has owned both Android and Apple iOS devices that currently carries an Android phone.

Ideally you should play with both and pick what suits YOU. As for security I still have to pick Apple though if that is really a concern of yours.
 
Thanks for your reply kb0nes

I have to admit yes I do worry about Internet security particularly identity theft and privacy. I don't know about Google but I didn't think they were an ethical company when it came to privacy compared to Apple.
 
Don't get me started...

If you want decisions made for you and blocked from doing some of the things you want to do go with iOS.  If you are an adult and understand what you are doing go with android.  Apple likes, no loves, to lock things down so you do what they want you to do, not so much with android.

 

I've never been an Apple fan, but bought an iPad a few years back to explore and see what that group offered.  Not a bad product, pretty straight forward and usable.  But... I wanted to add an equalizer to it as I had easily done with 3 or 4 or my android products - easy to do ? NO.  There  was one that would work with Pandora, but nothing else.  One that would work with iTunes -- but nothing else.  One that would work with Spotify-- but nothing else.  All I wanted was a simple EQ that worked.  I gave up. 

 

Granted I am not the typical user, I hack everything.  I've moved on from Windows to Linux, I want my equipment to do what I want when I want it to.  I want it to do things it was not designed to do.  I root my android stuff, I delete all those crappy apps that are forced onto your phones and tablets that eat memory and battery.  At this point my iPad lives in the bathroom to play music - unequalized- and card games, that's it.  I have Android tablets all over the house that get used for everything.

 

Rant off....
 
Thanks for your input to all who have commented. My mind is made up and shall be going with Android as more in my price range and am pretty technology savvy. Nearly fell off my chair when i saw the prices of Iphones absolute stupid money and i could never afford one.
 
Simple question, simple answer

If you like being told what to do, apple.

If you're an adult, android.

I can't abide the Cult of Steve.

 

Security?

By now the illusion that apple is 'safer' has been thoroughly upended. The real danger is user failure.

 
 
Hmm my $650 iPhone 5 is just about to celebrate it's 4th birthday. Other then the 2 batteries I have put in it ($14/ea & 10 min to swap) it has been flawless for 1400 straight days. Doing the math that makes it about $.50 per day. I'm not sure I have EVER got better service out of a purchase I have made based on price/longevity/usage.

But what do I know, I've been assimilated into some cult apparently... lol
 
This is coming from someone who still uses a flip phone, but does have computer experience (including running Linux as a primary OS). Both iOS and Android have points. Apple is more of a control freak. But they have as an advantage good support. I understand that a supported phone will get all security updates, and options for OS updates. Android safety patches and updates may or may not make it to a given phone model on a given network. Android has a better selection of phones at a wider range of prices, but a certain percentage aren't--oh, how do I phrase this nicely?--not very good phones. A person who goes Android because they can buy a $20 phone, but then decides to compare it to a new iPhone will find that $20 special disapointing. Unless, of course, they are pure Apple haters.

 

As always, it all depends on the person, and their needs...

 

As I said, I use a flip phone. If I were to move to a smart phone, Android would be really tempting just because of choices and lower price points. But Apple would be tempting just for support--particularly if I planned to keep said phone a long time, and wanted it to be fully supported as long as possible.
 
I'm part of that longevity cult too. I'm always amazed how often people buy new phones or get a new contract with a new phone. Based on my experience with both kind of products Apple products seem to last longer and perform better in the long end. My biggest problem was with an HTC smartphone. I will never ever buy another HTC product again.
 
Is the IPhone 5s still a good buy despite being nearly 4 years old? I think the pricing for 5s is my budget and I like the smaller sized phone not like the brick sized I phones.
 
The call quality is really good, no complaints here.

Battery reliability is also good, but a lot depends on your settings. Liamy1 made an excellent post on that in this thread, look at Reply# 14

http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?66116

Since I followed those tips I have to charge my phone a lot less. Often do it only once in three days.
 
IPhone 5s still a good buy despite being nearly 4 years old?

I'd be a little concerned about it, myself. It's probably still usable, but what is the support like for iOS updates? Even if still supported, how long will it be supported? Something current in Apple's line today--like the iPhone SE mentioned above--seems like a safer choice.
 
I wouldn't consider the 5s either. The new SE is far better device overall with the current processor, double the RAM and a greatly improved camera etc.

It is highly likely that the iOS updates will be sunset from the 5s before they stop offering updates for the SE. If you are likely to keep the phone for many years this is a very valid concern. As of the iOS 10 upgrade a few months ago it almost seemed as if Apple was being less aggressive at not obsoleting older models somehow.

Wikipedia has a nice matrix that shows all the features compared among all the iPhone models if you wish to compare them.

 
The SE should be on the same upgrade path as the 6S, since they both use the same chip inside. I doubt they'll pull support for the 6S for a long time. The 5 is still supported 4 years later. iOS 11 will likely be the last iOS version to support the 5S.
 
The 5s is a legacy device, I wouldnt buy one now as my 6 Plus struggles with IOS10 and its a generation newer than the 5s.

The 5se is based on the 6s which is still a current device and performs well under iOS10.

If you want a small Apple Candybar, go for the 5se.

I'm trying to ignore the slow performance of my 6 Plus and hold out for the 10 year anniversary addition this year, whatever that looks like, I may just get a point where I stop any iOS updates to stop it getting any slower. Plus this way I save $50 a month on my phone bill now I'm out of contract.

I had the argument with an Apple sales guy when Michael was shopping for his new phone, that the forced iOS upgrades render older iPhones and iPads unusable. His response was yeah, but they still work, I had to respond that it depends how you define work. Yes they still turn on, but have you tried browsing a web page on a 4 yo iPad :)
 

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