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akronman

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I pick it up Wednesday, low use, original paperwork, etc. But in winter in a chilly basement, it won't get much use here until springtime. That's a big advantage automatics have over twinnies and wringers in cold climates.

Look how clean, all the lettering is fresh instead of worn, it's the 0519 Auto-Rinse model, what a steal, what a deal!

Camera/internet colors can look weird, it almost looks OSHA orange in some shots, then greenish!
I have an older, more worn but working 0519, these twintub run through tons of small items easily, and tie up long sleeve shirts like hell. Lots of splashy fun.

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Nice machine... identical to the one I picked up a couple of years ago. Hope that the pump is good in it, but at least you have one you can swap out from your other machine if you want to. I had to replace the one in mine when I got it as it was seized. Still have the old one-some day I'm going to try to rebuild it to have as a spare. And I need to find a back cover for my 0519 someday as well.
 
good going Mark......

but this is exactly what you need when basements are chilly.....Kitchen/Bathroom fun.....small and portable enough to put anywhere and have a splashy time...

you can do a load or two, in a minute or two.......that Auto Rinse is a big help in these machines...
 
You beat me to it! Just saw it on Craigslist. I'm in Mansfield. I have the 0512 and the dryer and would love this. Glad you got it.
 
So jealous!!!!!!!

Been looking for years for a Hoover twin tub from this era. Foolishly sold mine back in the mid 70's. Moved to a bigger place and got my Jet Cone. Sold that too. UGH! But I have my Maytag A50 in good working condition with the matching dryer.
 
CONGRATULATIONS!!!

on your new hoover addition. it looks to be in really good condition & looks to have been well taken care of.

very cool!!!

:o)
 
Late 70's Hoover

Very nice Mark, this is a later machine. I'd guess 78 at least. TOL, and the 2-tone cabinet, I think by then they were down to 3 colors. I have the dryer in this color, an earlier D910.

-Tim
 
it's missing something....

like spider webs, dirt, and rust(mostly). The seller, in North Canton OH, home of Hoover on North Main St, said he bought it over 35 years ago at a sale at the warehouse, for $5, and has used it maybe 3 times. It looks GREAT.

I turned all the belts, etc, before firing her up, and the pump gave some resistance. I opened it up and got oil on the shaft entirely, and some on the top washers. The O-ring looked good, but it leaks a tad. I think the cure for that is red or blue gasket goop, in a day or two.

This machine is INCREDIBLY similar to my 0519, just a heck of a lot less wear and tear. But it did not come with the Serv-A-Top, "which looks fine in any kitchen."

The paperwork and nameplate call it a T1023, and the owners manual is 0519. The "Auto-Rinse" feature works as designed---and not well. You do have to remove the clothes from the spinner and reload under the stream of water, maybe 2x max, and then all seems clean rinsed.

Also, it seems to go off balance a heck of a lot less than my well-used 0519. Design change? Luck? Worn parts on the old one?

I like having a piece of local history, and these twin tubs are fun and splashy.

I've been lied to at times about use and history on machines, and other times told exact truths. I really believe this has less than 5 hours of use on it. Who knows.

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Pump Leak

Yes that is a nice machine indeed. If it is actually a T1023, then it really is the last generation of the twinnie in the US. 1978 up, but there is unfortunately not much indication as to actual age unless there is a date-stamp somewhere in the machine. It is the same exact machine as a 0519.

The pump had a large O-ring between the housing and the base, problem is, if you ever open that up, it needs to be replaced because it compresses from being pinched between the parts so long. Sometimes I've gotten lucky and that rubber ring is soft enough to work still, but mostly not. This is all assuming that the leak is from the housing to base area and not the bearing/seal in the center. Only use a light machine oil on that shaft never grease. There is an oil wick in the center that will soak is up. A good pump will have a slight resistance, but I think it's always good to put a little lubrication on it after so many years. If the leak is from the housing O-ring, any sort of automotive RTV sealant in conjunction with that ring will work to seal it up.

The "balance" of the machine spinning is dictated by the softness of the carrier bearing/mount under the spinner and the tub boot in the spinner. As the rubber hardens in these areas, more vibrations get transmitted through the chassis and tub. This is essentially the shock absorber/suspension system for the spinner. The spinner "stands" on the carrier bearing and the side to side motion is controlled by the tub boot which acts as a stabilizer making the bottom of the tub the pivot point. The more flexible these parts are, the less vibrations you have. The harder and less flexible that rubber is, the harsher the machine gets. This can range from a vibration to thinking the machine is out of balance, it can get pretty bad if it's completely hardened. Sometimes rinsing in warm water can alleviate this harshness, if so then you know that the tub boot is more to blame.

On a side-note, it's funny you mention the auto-rinse thing sucking because for the longest time I wanted an auto-rinse machine. I had a T1003 which has the spigot but not the sensor/switch for the rinse. I finally scored one (actually 3 0519's in like a month..) and after having one that works, I don't use it lol. Saturation is bad and the pressure switch in the spin tub is just not calibrated well. Also it doesn't allow the spin motor to really reach top-speed and keeps it under dangerous load with all the water that is running through it. I like the spigot, but the auto-rinse is just a frilly thing. Cool to have it, and actually for low-absorbancy items, it's not bad I guess.

You will have to post some video of that running :)

-Tim
 
Hello Tim

Thanks for advice---I wll shortly get some RTV and check the exact location of the leak, it was plenty enoguh that I bet it HAS to be the O-ring, we'll see.
The suspension/spin balance on the old 519 will stay, regardless of how hardened the rubber is, I'm used to it and I just re-balance more than the T1023. Also, my basement floor near the standing tubs and faucet is sloped, I always have to throw some wood shims under one wheel, it just ain't a perfect system, oh well.

I'll soon get a video, and also more pics of the nameplate, etc, it's labeled as T1023 with a Serial Number#1006, pretty darn early in the final run of Hoovers!

Can you imagine someone here, on any machine and any brand, having a serial number 1? What would the prize be?
 
Spin rinsing in any Hoover TT or others based upon a similar design has never been that great. Automatic or not the thing is just too hit or miss to be really effective.

At least with top loading washing machines the center post and force of gravity mean often the load is distributed to the side of the tub so in theory sprays of water can reach the wash. That does not always happen in a TT.

Probably the best design was the old Easy TT's with their center post spray method. This probably explains why Unimac went with that design for their commercial twin tubs.

Have tried a few times to "spray rinse" in my Hoover TT and usually gave up, it is just too labour intense with very uneven results.

Think in the old days when soap was used in TT's persons mistook the lack of froth as laundry being rinsed clean. However am here to tell you use a modern high sudsing detergent in a Hoover and you'll be rinsing for ages using that spin system. Far better to either put the laundry into a tub/sink of water and slosh it around or wait and use the wash side.

Using the wash side makes sense in a TT for rinsing but it also means you cannot wash and rinse at the same time, nor keep using the wash water.
 
Well, you hose the wash load in the spinner many times as it takes to get the drain running clear. Then toss it in a heap and wash/spin the next. Then drain/rinse the wash tub, refill and put "the heap" in some at a time. This works VERY well for modest loads, about 3 cycles, single person who puts off laundry for weeks. You can't suds save beyond 3 cycles anyway unless your laundry wasn't dirty to start with.

As Miss L said, somewhat labor intensive, but then you pritmuch have to stand there the whole time anyway. But for a household of 3 who change EVERYthing EVERYday and wash once a week, approaches labor prohibitive and should be looking at large capacity automatic.
 
Well Got Out My Hoover Last Night

As these things ought not to be left sat sitting for too long between uses. Doing so causing problems IMHO with seals and what not as things dry out, especially in our NYC centrally heated (some would say overly so) homes.

Did one large chenille mattress cover and it took about an hour. Used vintage All (with the Three B's), and even so it took three rinses in the tub before water was clear enough for our liking. This of course meant taking the thing out of the spinner, drain tub, fill tub, rinse, spin, lather and repeat. A few times got fed up and just hosed down the thing in empty tub, then drained water.

I'll say it again, TT washing, at least with a Hoover probably gives most satisfaction if one isn't bothered about rinsing "clean". That is if like many using top loaders you aren't bothered with final rinse water that isn't "clear" as it is spun away.

Now we all know such persons exist as the first load of washing done in a front loader normally results in tons of suds as left over detergent is brought out of the wash.

Thing also about Hoover TT pumps you really want to either use the machine often and or not use powders full of fillers. If allowed to dry out the insoluble crud from such powders forms a caked mess inside pump. Am also guessing heavy use of soap (especially in hard water) does the same.
 
just takes a little practice to get the whole process right.....

I have seen a number of videos of people dumping loads of detergent in there, and then having to rinse the heck out of them...adding labor to a tedious job....

these aren't much different than using a wringer machine, just on a smaller scale...and reuse of water, plus a little detergent...

once you get on a rhythm, you can process loads quickly....

the auto rinse works decent for most loads.....sometimes wonder why they didn't make a unit with two tubs, one for wash and one for rinse, and a spinner in the center.....I think there was something similar used in a car wash set up...

still, their fun machines to play with for us....but think back, if this was your daily driver...all in all, you would make do with it....
 
Umimac UM202 is designed not just for car washes but hotels, rural commercial laundries, etc... They are designed like other twin tubs; to process large amount of laundry very quickly.

Years ago when contacted a supplier for information was told hotels used these machines for doing large amounts of small laundry (napkins, shirts, pillow slips, etc...) quickly.

 

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