liberatordeluxe
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Anybody actually use this product for underwear etc? How do you rate It? Another gimmick or useful for low temperature washing?
Antibacterial cleanser
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aquacycle
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An utterly pointless product and complete waste of money IMO. If you wash properly with the appropriate detergents, you don't need this stuff.
The only real benefit I can see is if you care for children or elderly people and have to wash up after "accidents".
On the plus side, the Sainsburys own one does smell nice.
The only real benefit I can see is if you care for children or elderly people and have to wash up after "accidents".
On the plus side, the Sainsburys own one does smell nice.
I suppose there's no reason
Not to use it, especially if you have limited or no access to real hot water and strong detergents.
Anything which improves on the current situation of washing bacteria, mold, parasites and slimy, sticky dirt together with fecal matter in ice cold water with next to useless detergent then I'm all for it.
Nothing is more disgusting that to smell the inside of somebody's washer, TL or FL and see the setting on the panel: Short wash, cold wash, no bleach, on the shelf only Eco-detergent (useless, in other words) and strong smelling rinse treatment.
Yech. So yeah, if this improves thing, I'm all for it.
Not to use it, especially if you have limited or no access to real hot water and strong detergents.
Anything which improves on the current situation of washing bacteria, mold, parasites and slimy, sticky dirt together with fecal matter in ice cold water with next to useless detergent then I'm all for it.
Nothing is more disgusting that to smell the inside of somebody's washer, TL or FL and see the setting on the panel: Short wash, cold wash, no bleach, on the shelf only Eco-detergent (useless, in other words) and strong smelling rinse treatment.
Yech. So yeah, if this improves thing, I'm all for it.
warmsecondrinse
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I read the ingredients list on the website. One item was "disinfectants" which doesn't actually give you any information. I'd want to know exactly what those are. I didn't check the chemicals listed, but they seem to be the same or similar to those found in Lysol.
AFAIK, the problem with anti-bacterial cleansers is what's used to kill the bacteria. If a cleaner uses chemicals like Lysol uses or chemical like lactic acid, H2O2, bleach, alcohol, etc., that's fine. The problem is when an anti-biotic such as Triclosan (common in the U.S.) is used. This is fuel added to the fire of anti-biotic resistance.
On the one hand, my gut tells me that if having bacteria-free laundry were important, there wouldn't be 7 billion people on the planet. On the other, maybe the epidemic of cold water washing changes that.
Also, from a public health standpoint, I'd think it more beneficial to have a detergent that killed moulds and virii
Jim
AFAIK, the problem with anti-bacterial cleansers is what's used to kill the bacteria. If a cleaner uses chemicals like Lysol uses or chemical like lactic acid, H2O2, bleach, alcohol, etc., that's fine. The problem is when an anti-biotic such as Triclosan (common in the U.S.) is used. This is fuel added to the fire of anti-biotic resistance.
On the one hand, my gut tells me that if having bacteria-free laundry were important, there wouldn't be 7 billion people on the planet. On the other, maybe the epidemic of cold water washing changes that.
Also, from a public health standpoint, I'd think it more beneficial to have a detergent that killed moulds and virii
Jim
We've been down this path before
https://www.amazon.com/Persil-Hygiene-Disinfectant-Single-Bottle/dp/B00697LJ2G
http://www.cosdna.com/eng/cosmetic_0711215105.html
http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?42587
In much of Europe and elsewhere "hygiene" fabric rinses have been around for ages. Things like Sagrotan have long been sold for use with female "undergarments" after a bout of yeast infection and or for socks after athlete's foot. These were things that for various reasons couldn't or shouldn't be subjected to hot to boiling wash along with bleach (oxygen or chlorine).
Persil marketed their rinse aid "disinfectant" to capitalize on the trend for low/warm water washing and colors that couldn't be subjected to bleach. Also it was supposed to be good for things like microfiber and other synthetics that make up increasing amounts of today's male and female wardrobes, but again cannot be subjected to hot washing and or machine drying.
Truth to tell a good hot water wash using bleach (oxygen or chlorine)knocks down the "germ" count on laundry. A go though dryer takes that number down lower still. Ironing both after machine drying and or instead of also kills "germs".
So the upshot is unless one is having health "issues" and one's laundry cannot be subjected to strong laundering, these hygiene rinses aren't needed.
All these rinses are Quaternary ammonium based compounds. As such they function as sanitizers/disinfectants but only *after* cleaning when much of the muck and a good number of germs have already been removed. This is why such things are used in the last rinse during laundry.
Commercial laundries long have used quat based rinsed agents for some loads. Things like diapers, blankets, towels, bedding and so forth. More so if things were going to be stored in a warm climate/environment. The idea is to keep germs/mold from getting any significant foothold during transit and storage. Also again as the final insurance after laundering particularly nasty things (infected linen, diapers, towels, etc...).
www.dailymail.co.uk
https://www.amazon.com/Persil-Hygiene-Disinfectant-Single-Bottle/dp/B00697LJ2G
http://www.cosdna.com/eng/cosmetic_0711215105.html
http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?42587
In much of Europe and elsewhere "hygiene" fabric rinses have been around for ages. Things like Sagrotan have long been sold for use with female "undergarments" after a bout of yeast infection and or for socks after athlete's foot. These were things that for various reasons couldn't or shouldn't be subjected to hot to boiling wash along with bleach (oxygen or chlorine).
Persil marketed their rinse aid "disinfectant" to capitalize on the trend for low/warm water washing and colors that couldn't be subjected to bleach. Also it was supposed to be good for things like microfiber and other synthetics that make up increasing amounts of today's male and female wardrobes, but again cannot be subjected to hot washing and or machine drying.
Truth to tell a good hot water wash using bleach (oxygen or chlorine)knocks down the "germ" count on laundry. A go though dryer takes that number down lower still. Ironing both after machine drying and or instead of also kills "germs".
So the upshot is unless one is having health "issues" and one's laundry cannot be subjected to strong laundering, these hygiene rinses aren't needed.
All these rinses are Quaternary ammonium based compounds. As such they function as sanitizers/disinfectants but only *after* cleaning when much of the muck and a good number of germs have already been removed. This is why such things are used in the last rinse during laundry.
Commercial laundries long have used quat based rinsed agents for some loads. Things like diapers, blankets, towels, bedding and so forth. More so if things were going to be stored in a warm climate/environment. The idea is to keep germs/mold from getting any significant foothold during transit and storage. Also again as the final insurance after laundering particularly nasty things (infected linen, diapers, towels, etc...).
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Forget the cold water silliness-for funky things-----USE HOT!!!!!
I've been known to use a little Lysol in my hospital scrubs with warm water when I've had a particularly "buggy" patient for the week. I remember back in the mid/late 80's Lysol marketed powder laundry sanitizer. Mother tried it and liked it, but it wasn't sold for very long. Check out the WCI front loader in the commercial below.
