stricklybojack
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What's old is new again in this excellent video.
Anvil Restoration
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danemodsandy
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Can't Resist!
"Anvil Restoration"
Because we all know how many people there are out there who could tear one up....
"Anvil Restoration"
Because we all know how many people there are out there who could tear one up....
ptcruiser51
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Shoot!
I thought this was about the notorious bar in NYC's meatpacking district in the 70s/80s.
I thought this was about the notorious bar in NYC's meatpacking district in the 70s/80s.
Nicely made video, I love seeing metal working being in a machine shop all day.
The parts of the video where he was flycutting the top surface was sped up quite a bit though, almost like a time-lapse. Neat to make the old new again, although I'm not sure how well that repair would hold up to heavy steel blacksmithing.
Here is another metal working video I'm fond of:
Its a beautifully restored Atlas 7B metal shaper. This Youtube user also has a few other nice videos of his lovely South Bend lathe you see in the background in this video. You can tell from the lighting and the moving camera dolly he is no stranger to cinematography either!
The parts of the video where he was flycutting the top surface was sped up quite a bit though, almost like a time-lapse. Neat to make the old new again, although I'm not sure how well that repair would hold up to heavy steel blacksmithing.
Here is another metal working video I'm fond of:
Its a beautifully restored Atlas 7B metal shaper. This Youtube user also has a few other nice videos of his lovely South Bend lathe you see in the background in this video. You can tell from the lighting and the moving camera dolly he is no stranger to cinematography either!
My Goodness-the High School metal shop I went to had a shaper just like the one in the video!Intregueing machine-fascinated by it-the teacher was the only one that used it.Loved watching the shaper work.The instructor didn't show us how to use the shaper.Instructed in the use of the lathes and milling machines.Horribly out of practce at this point.We have lathes and a mill here at work.Sad I don't remember how to use them.They can be helpful tools!At present despite we have these tools-the machine work is being contracted out.The shop at the transmitter doesn't have a shaper.
Rex,
Hardly anyone ever uses a shaper anymore. They just aren't a machine that is useful in today's world. Once carbide tooling came into play it was SO much faster to use a rotary tool to remove stock. Shapers had the advantage of a simple and easy single point tool (like a lathe cutter) that is easy to sharpen.
Funny thing is that I would "kill" to have a benchtop shaper like this today. I want one for cutting internal keyways which is difficult to do other ways. Sometimes we place a single point tool in the spindle of a CNC machining center and just use the Z-axis drive to stroke the tool through the part with the spindle locked in place. Not very elegant, but it cuts a keyway at .001-.002" per stroke, just have to slowly advance the part into the tool stroke by stroke.
Hardly anyone ever uses a shaper anymore. They just aren't a machine that is useful in today's world. Once carbide tooling came into play it was SO much faster to use a rotary tool to remove stock. Shapers had the advantage of a simple and easy single point tool (like a lathe cutter) that is easy to sharpen.
Funny thing is that I would "kill" to have a benchtop shaper like this today. I want one for cutting internal keyways which is difficult to do other ways. Sometimes we place a single point tool in the spindle of a CNC machining center and just use the Z-axis drive to stroke the tool through the part with the spindle locked in place. Not very elegant, but it cuts a keyway at .001-.002" per stroke, just have to slowly advance the part into the tool stroke by stroke.
I figured that shapers weren't in use much more now.As you point out-carbide and other rotating tools can do the same jobs faster.But the shaper was neat to watch.Wonder if the benchtop one in that school shop is still there?It was at the old high school.Lots of old machine tools there-donated by Boeing Aircraft.The tools had brass nameplates on them indicating the tools were former Boeing property.Don't remember such a tag on their shaper.Wouldn't be surprized that those old tools at that school were probably scrapped and the shop is no more.Thought of this since Industrial Arts aren't promoted much at schools anymore.SAD,good way for folks to learn a valuable trade skill!At the new High School(Stevens High School) there was no shaper.Just lathes and a benchtop mill.Attended both schools.
I'd hate to see an anvil destroyed by someone machining the face. Most anvils that have enough of the face to be machined are usable as is. If the face is machined before checking the base to see if it's parallel to the face then face won't be level. I'd suggest going to a blacksmithing forum for information on anvil restoration, though the Robb Gunther method is typically the most recommended, if you're going to take on this task. http://www.anvilmag.com/smith/anvilres.htm
Dan,
It almost appears that the guy in the video actually was working from the instructions in the link you posted.
As for destroying the anvil by machining it, that anvil was no treat before he started. In fact it appears as if there was a failed welded/laminated top that came off as he was flycutting the face. What he ended up with was a far nicer tool then was first shown, especially if his use is for artisan brass work.
The part of the video that bugged me was the heating of the anvil while on the mill table. Although from the look of that Bridgeport it doesn't do a lot of high tolerance work anymore...
It almost appears that the guy in the video actually was working from the instructions in the link you posted.
As for destroying the anvil by machining it, that anvil was no treat before he started. In fact it appears as if there was a failed welded/laminated top that came off as he was flycutting the face. What he ended up with was a far nicer tool then was first shown, especially if his use is for artisan brass work.
The part of the video that bugged me was the heating of the anvil while on the mill table. Although from the look of that Bridgeport it doesn't do a lot of high tolerance work anymore...
I should've paid more attention to the beginning and how it looked at first. You're right, it was so far gone not much he could do to ruin it, and it's his tool to do with as he pleases.
Assuming he's not using it for heavy smithing work at least the face shouldn't separate. I wouldn't expect it to have any rebound whatsoever, even if he did use tool steel for the face plate. He would've been only able to weld the outside edges. The Gunther method uses two different types of welding rods, one to first buildup the table and then another to provide the right hardness.
Assuming he's not using it for heavy smithing work at least the face shouldn't separate. I wouldn't expect it to have any rebound whatsoever, even if he did use tool steel for the face plate. He would've been only able to weld the outside edges. The Gunther method uses two different types of welding rods, one to first buildup the table and then another to provide the right hardness.
