Anyone here into vinyl?
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jasonl
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Mystery phono.
I forget the name of it but it has a magnetic pickup.
Those Zeniths have that neat T shaped needle but the turntable is a VM just like the one in my parents old Philco console. I had a Zenith Allegro system at one time with the T shaped needle but the turntable was BSR.
I forget the name of it but it has a magnetic pickup.
Those Zeniths have that neat T shaped needle but the turntable is a VM just like the one in my parents old Philco console. I had a Zenith Allegro system at one time with the T shaped needle but the turntable was BSR.
jasonl
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Yeah, I want one of those vertical Mitsubishi turntables.
Yeah, I want one of those vertical Mitsubishi turntables.
no tease..
I won't keep you guessing.
It's my 1926 Brunswick Panatrope PR-148-C.
This you would have to consider is a console. The receiver, amplifier, and phonograph are all in a walnut cabinet. BUT what it really is is the very first a/c electric radio phonograph combinations ever for sale in this country.
I just love it. Right now I have a dyna-kit amplifier in it and a permanent magnet speaker, and with the re-wound voice coil installed the turntable plays like new again. Getting that radio to work again will be quite another matter.
B
I won't keep you guessing.
It's my 1926 Brunswick Panatrope PR-148-C.
This you would have to consider is a console. The receiver, amplifier, and phonograph are all in a walnut cabinet. BUT what it really is is the very first a/c electric radio phonograph combinations ever for sale in this country.
I just love it. Right now I have a dyna-kit amplifier in it and a permanent magnet speaker, and with the re-wound voice coil installed the turntable plays like new again. Getting that radio to work again will be quite another matter.
B
Yes-I also like record playing machines of various sorts.I also work on these-mostly on QRK,Technics,Tt's that were used in radio stations.I have also worked on the "Maggie" Collaro Tt's in Magnavox Hi-Fi sets.my Mom had one-Now she misses it! she wished she didn't get rid of it when she bought a newer component Hi-fi system.As a boy she had a Brunswick Radio-TT unit.Was 1940's technology.The TT in it got taken out at some time and the unit was then a rather nice radio.I have worked on this as well.She stored magazines in the aera where the TTR used to be.She used it as an end table.I have my eyes on a jukebox-Seeburg-Have looked over its Changer-TT system.It has very early SS amps-Which if I buy it will replace with tube ones-the tube ones are easier to work on.Early SS amps acan be real Bugger Bears to work on since early Germanium and silicone transistors are NLA.The jukebox is at the other new swap shop I found.He has an older tube Seeburg-The TT mechanism is visible under the plexiglas dome-but it has been sold waiting for its new owner to pick it up.The one I found has its TT under a panel.I would like to try working on the Seeburg TT units.they were used in some radio station program automation systems to provide music material-these played LP's.Visited one radio station that still used it-was in an older Shaffer automation system.Those are also pretty neat.GIANT "Jukeboxes"with cart caurosels,Reel-reel tape machines and time announce cart machines.And last but not least diode matrix "Peggety board" "brains".You programmed the machines actions on the diode matrix control unit.
records
I have a collection of the old tube radios. Some also have the phonographs. I have probably about 40-50 turntables. I also have a small collection of vinyl. I have about 500 of the 33's and about 300 of the 45's. I have some intresting record players. I'll have to post some pics of them here. I have one from the late 70's called an accutrac 4000 that you can actually select which track of the record, and it'll go right to it and play it. Similar to a cd player.
Bundtboy I love that Brunswick phonograph. I wish I had one like it. Very nice.
I have a collection of the old tube radios. Some also have the phonographs. I have probably about 40-50 turntables. I also have a small collection of vinyl. I have about 500 of the 33's and about 300 of the 45's. I have some intresting record players. I'll have to post some pics of them here. I have one from the late 70's called an accutrac 4000 that you can actually select which track of the record, and it'll go right to it and play it. Similar to a cd player.
Bundtboy I love that Brunswick phonograph. I wish I had one like it. Very nice.
I am still on the hunt for classic console Hi-Fis in my area-the swap shops NEVER get them around here.Especially want a Magnavox Concert Grand Tubed model.That was what my Mom had.Anyone out there have a clue where I find one in the South?Same with classic old washers.You just don't see them here.
maytagmark
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still stuck in the 70's and 80's
I love vinyl,I don't have good luck with cd's so ,I stick with vinyl and tapes,i love the 12 inch singles from the 80's that sound so good on the turntable,I guess thats why some DJ's still prefer them,one of my favs is Erasure "Chains of love",I had a few turntables but I'm down to my one of my favorites a Marantz system from the 70's,this was my Aunt's stereo from the 70's,she was dating a stereo salesman at the time so he recommended the best stereo you could buy at that time,and maybe still today,the Marantz 2270 receiver, I do have a Grundig Majestic console floor radio from the late 50's that used to work great it is hi-fi but after a couple of moves there area couple of broken tubes and the cabinet needs some work,would love to find it a good home ,I just don't have the space for it,it is in the garage. Mark
I love vinyl,I don't have good luck with cd's so ,I stick with vinyl and tapes,i love the 12 inch singles from the 80's that sound so good on the turntable,I guess thats why some DJ's still prefer them,one of my favs is Erasure "Chains of love",I had a few turntables but I'm down to my one of my favorites a Marantz system from the 70's,this was my Aunt's stereo from the 70's,she was dating a stereo salesman at the time so he recommended the best stereo you could buy at that time,and maybe still today,the Marantz 2270 receiver, I do have a Grundig Majestic console floor radio from the late 50's that used to work great it is hi-fi but after a couple of moves there area couple of broken tubes and the cabinet needs some work,would love to find it a good home ,I just don't have the space for it,it is in the garage. Mark
maytagmark
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still stuck in the 70's and 80's
I love vinyl,I don't have good luck with cd's so ,I stick with vinyl and tapes,i love the 12 inch singles from the 80's that sound so good on the turntable,I guess thats why some DJ's still prefer them,one of my favs is Erasure "Chains of love",I had a few turntables but I'm down to my one of my favorites a Marantz system from the 70's,this was my Aunt's stereo from the 70's,she was dating a stereo salesman at the time so he recommended the best stereo you could buy at that time,and maybe still today,the Marantz 2270 receiver, I do have a Grundig Majestic console floor radio from the late 50's that used to work great it is hi-fi but after a couple of moves there area couple of broken tubes and the cabinet needs some work,would love to find it a good home ,I just don't have the space for it,it is in the garage. Mark
I love vinyl,I don't have good luck with cd's so ,I stick with vinyl and tapes,i love the 12 inch singles from the 80's that sound so good on the turntable,I guess thats why some DJ's still prefer them,one of my favs is Erasure "Chains of love",I had a few turntables but I'm down to my one of my favorites a Marantz system from the 70's,this was my Aunt's stereo from the 70's,she was dating a stereo salesman at the time so he recommended the best stereo you could buy at that time,and maybe still today,the Marantz 2270 receiver, I do have a Grundig Majestic console floor radio from the late 50's that used to work great it is hi-fi but after a couple of moves there area couple of broken tubes and the cabinet needs some work,would love to find it a good home ,I just don't have the space for it,it is in the garage. Mark
maytagmark
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Marantz Turntable
Marantz Turntable
63getelevision
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Hi Bundtboy
Your Zenith console is another dream of mine I have yet to fulfill. It's got the same VM I have in my four "Circle of Sound" sets. My G.E. Custom Decorator TV radio phono has that changer with the G.E. Tonal1 tone arm. It has a G.E. ceramic cartridge in it. All of the other sound systems posted here are fantastic! Also, Zenith high end console models in the mid to late '60s had overengineered VMs with a sliding control on each side of the changer. The sets weigh at least three hundred or more pounds.
Your Zenith console is another dream of mine I have yet to fulfill. It's got the same VM I have in my four "Circle of Sound" sets. My G.E. Custom Decorator TV radio phono has that changer with the G.E. Tonal1 tone arm. It has a G.E. ceramic cartridge in it. All of the other sound systems posted here are fantastic! Also, Zenith high end console models in the mid to late '60s had overengineered VMs with a sliding control on each side of the changer. The sets weigh at least three hundred or more pounds.
Count me in...
I too am a lover of vinyl. Digitizing and compression techniques just leave the audio really flat. Although I have windups for 78s, I also love the older DUAL units (lost mine in a flood).
Most of my everyday stuff is VM as I spent weeks at VM during the final days and obtained lots of NOS parts and equipment.
Tube amps are the best. My tube amps are EICOs and my spare solid-state unit is VM.
I just love picking up wacky old albums for cheap and playing them for fun. What a gas! KNOCKERS UP guys!!
I too am a lover of vinyl. Digitizing and compression techniques just leave the audio really flat. Although I have windups for 78s, I also love the older DUAL units (lost mine in a flood).
Most of my everyday stuff is VM as I spent weeks at VM during the final days and obtained lots of NOS parts and equipment.
Tube amps are the best. My tube amps are EICOs and my spare solid-state unit is VM.
I just love picking up wacky old albums for cheap and playing them for fun. What a gas! KNOCKERS UP guys!!
frontaloadotmy
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Hi Paul
Do you know the fellow that has the V o M site?
Please post picts of some of your V o M items.
Do you know the fellow that has the V o M site?
Please post picts of some of your V o M items.
sudsmaster
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I have probably about 400 lps, split evenly between pop/rock/jazz/folk and classical. Audio equipment includes Denon DP30L direct drive manual turntable with auto lift. Also have a KLH Model 11 phono/FM suitcase portable with Garrard changer; Magnavox solid state AM/FM/Stereo phono console; Victrola model VV-IX table top grammaphone. Also have a Silvertone tube AM/Wire/Phono combo console unit (needs repair) and an Airline AM/Phono table top tube unit (also needs repair).
I stopped buying new vinyl about 10 years ago, since then it's been all CD's. For most purposes the CD's are fine, but I still think the best LP's sound better than CD's, at least on the Denon turntable.
I have had issues replacing the cartridge on the Magnavox. The original had broken internal suspension. It had ok treble but no bass. I got a replacement off eBay, which sounds better, good bass but could use more midrange-treble. Unfortunately the original cartridge for this unit is no longer available. Doesn't sound as good as the Denon with magnetic cartridge. But, as I recall, it sounds about the same as the KLH portable sounds - limitations of spherical stylus and ceramic cartridge probably account for most of the difference.
I stopped buying new vinyl about 10 years ago, since then it's been all CD's. For most purposes the CD's are fine, but I still think the best LP's sound better than CD's, at least on the Denon turntable.
I have had issues replacing the cartridge on the Magnavox. The original had broken internal suspension. It had ok treble but no bass. I got a replacement off eBay, which sounds better, good bass but could use more midrange-treble. Unfortunately the original cartridge for this unit is no longer available. Doesn't sound as good as the Denon with magnetic cartridge. But, as I recall, it sounds about the same as the KLH portable sounds - limitations of spherical stylus and ceramic cartridge probably account for most of the difference.
whirlcool
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I am the keeper of the Dual Reference Website, the definitive website for Dual turntables.
I loved the photos you all submitted. Those Zenith 2G tonearms were really ahead of their time. And I have always loved the look of those Marantz turntables. Marantz made things heavy duty for sure! But that turntable looks like it could use some Lemon oil on the wood.
I really loved the days of huge console stereos and console color televisions. In fact my main system is all vintage. I am using SAE amplification and have a set of AR-3a's that I restored along with a set of JBL 4311's.
I have a rather large cassette collection. Most all of them I made myself. Fortunately, my Mazda Tribute came with both a CD changer AND a cassette player! Most unusual these days.
I am the keeper of the Dual Reference Website, the definitive website for Dual turntables.
I loved the photos you all submitted. Those Zenith 2G tonearms were really ahead of their time. And I have always loved the look of those Marantz turntables. Marantz made things heavy duty for sure! But that turntable looks like it could use some Lemon oil on the wood.
I really loved the days of huge console stereos and console color televisions. In fact my main system is all vintage. I am using SAE amplification and have a set of AR-3a's that I restored along with a set of JBL 4311's.
I have a rather large cassette collection. Most all of them I made myself. Fortunately, my Mazda Tribute came with both a CD changer AND a cassette player! Most unusual these days.
whirlcool
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whirlcool,
The Dual website is yours? Cool. I have looked at that site a few times when it was called the Dual Classics website. I surmise that’s the same thing?
I’m running a pair of Dynaco A35s, but I didn’t restore them as they were in excellent condition when I bought them, and they do a great job.
My amplification is not vintage. I’m using an NAD C320BEE integrated. I love it. Previously I used a Sansui 5000A receiver, but the NAD blows it away with its detailed, lively sound; the Sansui sounds thick and wooly in comparison. I use an NAD phono stage, too, but have been thinking about getting a Bellari or Jolida tube stage. Haven’t done it yet, though.
This stuff sure is fun!
The Dual website is yours? Cool. I have looked at that site a few times when it was called the Dual Classics website. I surmise that’s the same thing?
I’m running a pair of Dynaco A35s, but I didn’t restore them as they were in excellent condition when I bought them, and they do a great job.
My amplification is not vintage. I’m using an NAD C320BEE integrated. I love it. Previously I used a Sansui 5000A receiver, but the NAD blows it away with its detailed, lively sound; the Sansui sounds thick and wooly in comparison. I use an NAD phono stage, too, but have been thinking about getting a Bellari or Jolida tube stage. Haven’t done it yet, though.
This stuff sure is fun!
whirlcool
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Yup, I developed the Dual Classics website almost 10 years ago. I wish I had more time to update it. But I believe that it presents and accurate picture of the perennially popular Dual products. The site has over 500 pages to it.
Did anyone find the "easter egg" on the homepage? There's one in there.
The new design of the site is a tribute to 50 years of color television broadcasting.
http://www.dual-reference.com
Did anyone find the "easter egg" on the homepage? There's one in there.
The new design of the site is a tribute to 50 years of color television broadcasting.
http://www.dual-reference.com
Voice of Music
Yes, I know Gary who runs the Voice of Music site. Gary and I (among others) were the ones who got dirty in the last building and pulled those parts out. Actually, that was one of the funnest things that ever happened to me.
I'll try to get pix of my VM stuff.
And someday at a "wash-in" I'll tell you about the frog..
Yes, I know Gary who runs the Voice of Music site. Gary and I (among others) were the ones who got dirty in the last building and pulled those parts out. Actually, that was one of the funnest things that ever happened to me.
I'll try to get pix of my VM stuff.
And someday at a "wash-in" I'll tell you about the frog..
Playtime
This one is the Voice of Music Playtime. I had one exactly like this when I was 5 and it was quite old then. I was 5 in 1968 and this is a 1954 to '57 model, I do believe. It's very cool having Voice of Music experts on board and I hope to be able to share more in the future.
This one features a unique slide and push type speed selector and an unusual color of flocking & paint..light grey. It's the only light grey flocked table I know of. Can anyone think of any others?
Also the 45 spindle on this one is unique in that it also has the Lp spindle formed into the same plastic part. You simply lift it up a short pin to make the 45 spindle engage, but slip it back down to use the small spindle. Again, it's the only one of this style I've seen.
You can also play this one with the lid closed when playing 7 inch records, which is pretty neat too.
You can tell I love this little set. It's a good player.
B
This one is the Voice of Music Playtime. I had one exactly like this when I was 5 and it was quite old then. I was 5 in 1968 and this is a 1954 to '57 model, I do believe. It's very cool having Voice of Music experts on board and I hope to be able to share more in the future.
This one features a unique slide and push type speed selector and an unusual color of flocking & paint..light grey. It's the only light grey flocked table I know of. Can anyone think of any others?
Also the 45 spindle on this one is unique in that it also has the Lp spindle formed into the same plastic part. You simply lift it up a short pin to make the 45 spindle engage, but slip it back down to use the small spindle. Again, it's the only one of this style I've seen.
You can also play this one with the lid closed when playing 7 inch records, which is pretty neat too.
You can tell I love this little set. It's a good player.
B
frontaloadotmy
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The Choice for Music is the Voice of Music
Post #222525 featured VoM model 972-A "record changer"
Don't know why they were labled "changer" as they played
too. Here's a young cousin ; the 1250
Post #222525 featured VoM model 972-A "record changer"
Don't know why they were labled "changer" as they played
too. Here's a young cousin ; the 1250
frontaloadotmy
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" frontal" shot
63getelevision
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My 1956 Stromberg-Carlson
has a changer just like yours, Frontal. Where your heavy plastic escutcheon is, mine has a gold one like it with Stromberg-Carlson embossed into the underside. My late '50s Magnavox portables have them with the Magnavox crest attatched to the upper left corner. I think Collaro changers went into some of their portables at the same time. Magnavox used VM in some of their portables in the early to mid '60s. Now I am also pretty sure that a mini-changer Magnavox offered in late '60s was also a VM, because the tone arm locking mechanism I saw on the one in the VM site was identical.
has a changer just like yours, Frontal. Where your heavy plastic escutcheon is, mine has a gold one like it with Stromberg-Carlson embossed into the underside. My late '50s Magnavox portables have them with the Magnavox crest attatched to the upper left corner. I think Collaro changers went into some of their portables at the same time. Magnavox used VM in some of their portables in the early to mid '60s. Now I am also pretty sure that a mini-changer Magnavox offered in late '60s was also a VM, because the tone arm locking mechanism I saw on the one in the VM site was identical.
fredriksam
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I have a vinyl player and quite alot of records. The player is an quite old Luxor and is sadly, broken. It flutters so the music becomes horribly to listen to. I have made some mp3´s off how it sounds. Links below and in next post. I have checked the belt and its fine. What do guys about how to solve it?
http://media.putfile.com/example-2mp3
http://media.putfile.com/example-2mp3
fredriksam
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second song. It sounds really bad and strange.
http://media.putfile.com/Example-1-of-badbroken-vinyl-player
http://media.putfile.com/Example-1-of-badbroken-vinyl-player
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fredriksam
I don't know how to solve your problem, but I had forgotten what a great song "Play With Fire" is. Maybe there is a speed adjustment screw under the platter somewhere, though. It did sound somewhat slow.
I don't know how to solve your problem, but I had forgotten what a great song "Play With Fire" is. Maybe there is a speed adjustment screw under the platter somewhere, though. It did sound somewhat slow.
frontaloadotmy
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I could Voice of Music this thread beyond recognition!!
Just say the word!!!!
Voice of Music provided changers for just about all of the
American Made Phonographs of the late forties and beyond,
with exceptions of course.
I think their initial claim to fame changer wise was that they
patented the first relatively precise trouble free fully
automatic unit that could intermix sizes 12" 10" and 7"
records of the same rpm. Back in the early fifties and up
into the early sixties, I think they had a market share,
certainly for supplying record changers. Their own units
were considered somewhat high end as far as the mass produced
home units go.
Just say the word!!!!
Voice of Music provided changers for just about all of the
American Made Phonographs of the late forties and beyond,
with exceptions of course.
I think their initial claim to fame changer wise was that they
patented the first relatively precise trouble free fully
automatic unit that could intermix sizes 12" 10" and 7"
records of the same rpm. Back in the early fifties and up
into the early sixties, I think they had a market share,
certainly for supplying record changers. Their own units
were considered somewhat high end as far as the mass produced
home units go.
The VM changers certainly were robust and stood the test of time. I once had a VM Stere-O-Matic component unit, which actually had a Shure magnetic cartridge in it! Unfortunately, I no longer have it. Wish I did.
I read that VM also designed the first BIC turntables, which were popular in the mid-1970s, as well as the ADC/BSR Accutrac mentioned earlier in this thread.
I read that VM also designed the first BIC turntables, which were popular in the mid-1970s, as well as the ADC/BSR Accutrac mentioned earlier in this thread.
Orignal Advents with bad woofer surround
Recently 4 Original Advent speakers (2 pairs) fell on me from my local freecycle yahoo group. Immdediately I ordered up new woofer surrounds and an experienced audiophile buddy of mine supervised me putting them in yesterday and worked with me to make sure the cabinets and installations were air tight. These speakers rely on static pressure inside the sealed cabinet in order to dampen the woofer from overdriving. Well, They came out perfect and sound absolutely stunning.
These speakers have born on dates ranging from August through December of 1976. A popular arrangment for installing Advents is to Stack them vertically with the top speaker being upside down. That was reffered to as having stacked Advents.
Recently 4 Original Advent speakers (2 pairs) fell on me from my local freecycle yahoo group. Immdediately I ordered up new woofer surrounds and an experienced audiophile buddy of mine supervised me putting them in yesterday and worked with me to make sure the cabinets and installations were air tight. These speakers rely on static pressure inside the sealed cabinet in order to dampen the woofer from overdriving. Well, They came out perfect and sound absolutely stunning.
These speakers have born on dates ranging from August through December of 1976. A popular arrangment for installing Advents is to Stack them vertically with the top speaker being upside down. That was reffered to as having stacked Advents.
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