Ariel with Downy and Phosphates

[mamapinky]

Stopped in Pittsburgh at a Mexican grocer and found bags of this. I don't see phosphates in the ingredient list, but I can't read it...it does have a small sticker on it that says: This product is not a product authorized by the United States trademark owner for importation and is physically and materially different from the authorized product. Here's the listed ingredients: Ayudas de proceso, coadyuvantes de limpieza, dodecilbenceno sulfonato de sodio, intensificadores de limpieza y esteticos fragancia y colorantes biodegradabilidad minima del tensoactivo 90%. Lol...any help if this contains phosphates will be appreciated thanks much Cheryl

 

[sudsmaster]

Unless you see "phosphates" or "fosfato", it may not contain any phosphates. Older Ariel formulations did say "fosfato" or similar; don't know about newer versions.

 

If I'm not mistaken, Penn is one of those states with a phosphate ban. So it may be unlikely that even an off-market labeled product like your Ariel contains any.

 

In a pinch, you could always get some STPP (either locally or via online) and add that to a 2:1 (33%) ratio by weight. Check your local laws to see if it's legal to use that in home laundry.

 

 

 

 

[Marky_Mark]

Here in Spain, the ingredients on laundry detergents state fosfonatos (phosphonates).  Our laundry detergents don't contain phosphates anymore.

 

Dishwasher detergents, however, are still loaded with phosphates and state >30% fosfatos (phosphates). 

 

Neither of these ingredients are mentioned on your packaging.  Curiously, it does list ayudas proceso (process aids) which could be anything and could certainly include phosphates.  I have never seen this on any detergent in Spain.  Nor have I seen "process aids" on detergents in the USA/UK.  But I don't read ALL the labels!!!

 

Coadyuvantes de limpieza would probably be described as a "builder" in the UK & USA.  This could also definitely include phosphates and/or phosphonates.  Intensificadores de limpieza (cleaning enhancer/intensifier) is another strange one that I personally don't think I have never seen written on detergent in Spain, the UK or USA.  Again, this could include anything.

 

So in summary, I would say that although it doesn't explicitly states phosphates, it could certainly contain phosphates as I have no idea whether Mexican regulations would require the packaging to explicitly state the word fosfatos. 

 

I agree with Sudsmaster.  Just add STPP.  This is phosphate.  You can add it yourself if you want to. 

Hope this helps!

Mark

 

 

 

[mamapinky]

Thank you sudsmaster, I actually do add 1 part STPP -2parts detergent by weight to my other detergent, works great.
Also thank you Marky for the translate...I think what's happening is P&G is stopping all phosphates by the end of this year and in the meantime arnt listing them...the little warning sticker on the Ariel is what made me think it had phosphates. I did a load of coloreds in my traditional and used 1/3 cup of this stuff...wow the water was unbelievably slippery and the clothes came out clean and oh so fresh, they were dirty sweaty garden clothes. Since I typically add STPP I have come to know how the wash water feels and this feels like its loaded with phosphates. Wonder if a fish aquarium phosphate tester would tell me..anyway thank you for your responses...Cheryl

 

[hiandry]

Sodium Tripolyphosphate "Light Density"

I can find STPP Light Density on amazon. What is the light density all about and is it what I would want to add to my laundry detergent for phosphates?

Thanks in advance.

 

[mamapinky]

Yes light density is fine, and it disolves faster in the wash water, its what I use, I buy the 20 pound bags for 40$ and free shipping at Amazon. Cheryl

 

[hiandry]

Thanks Cheryl

I ran across the answer to my question right after I posted that and ordered a 20lb bag myself. I'm rather excited because i've never used it or even knew about it before reading the threads here.