rancherman
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still a day an half to go, and the bid is $1600.
NIB 2017 'never opened'.
NIB 2017 'never opened'.
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Sounds like the seller has had trouble with non-paying bidders...
The previous two auctions ended at $1,825 and then $2,520!!
The previous two auctions ended at $1,825 and then $2,520!!
That’s crazy. The washer is not that good. Some people have in their minds that this washer is some unicorn or something. It’s worth $800, not more than that.
I agree 1,000% with Eugene. SQs are overrated, lousy rinsing, belt-eating machines. Sure they're the last of the old school design, but that doesn't mean they clean any better than other long-stroke machines ever did. They're just all that's left, if you can find one.
Why do I feel qualified to make such a statement? Because I had a '97 SQ clone Amana -- virtually the same machine as what Alliance turned out until the '18 models -- that was on its third belt when I dumped it after nine years, and it rinsed so poorly (even with the "Extra Rinse" switch constantly in the "on" position) that I had to deal with oversudsing issues for a while in the Duet that replaced it due to significant levels of non-he detergent residue the Amana couldn't rinse out -- and if anything, I'm an under-doser.
Why do I feel qualified to make such a statement? Because I had a '97 SQ clone Amana -- virtually the same machine as what Alliance turned out until the '18 models -- that was on its third belt when I dumped it after nine years, and it rinsed so poorly (even with the "Extra Rinse" switch constantly in the "on" position) that I had to deal with oversudsing issues for a while in the Duet that replaced it due to significant levels of non-he detergent residue the Amana couldn't rinse out -- and if anything, I'm an under-doser.
Compared to what is currently available, I do not blame anyone for bidding that high. These clean very well, are super quick, no electronics, no lid lock, best balancing of any machine probably ever made, and last a along time. Very gentle delicate cycle, and the spin drain stops residue rings from forming around the top of the tub and agi.
Other options are a used TL washer where longevity will be unknown. There is the Maytag and Whirlpool commercial TL option, but they still do not surpass Speed Queen in all categories. Rinsing yes.
To compare Amanas and Speed Queens because they look the same with the front panel off is unfair. SQ redesigned everything that was wrong with the Amana and then some. They are not the same machines.
As these become really scare those who really want one will become desperate especially when you know that for the next 15-25 years you will have the classical design which you have come to know and love.
Other options are a used TL washer where longevity will be unknown. There is the Maytag and Whirlpool commercial TL option, but they still do not surpass Speed Queen in all categories. Rinsing yes.
To compare Amanas and Speed Queens because they look the same with the front panel off is unfair. SQ redesigned everything that was wrong with the Amana and then some. They are not the same machines.
As these become really scare those who really want one will become desperate especially when you know that for the next 15-25 years you will have the classical design which you have come to know and love.
Happens All The Time
Ebay, CL, you name the site and you'll find some clever chops that didn't do their homework on just how expensive shipping a large appliance is, especially several states away.
That and or they simply bid up the item so no one else could get it; then back out when seller calls their marker.
Ebay, CL, you name the site and you'll find some clever chops that didn't do their homework on just how expensive shipping a large appliance is, especially several states away.
That and or they simply bid up the item so no one else could get it; then back out when seller calls their marker.
Though there may be some that would disagree with me, I'd say the machine is worth the original purchase price of $800, however, if one had to pay any kind of tax or shipping on it and it went up to over $900, then I'd say no.
I own a 2015 AWN432SP that I paid $1,019.00 that included tax and a steep $100 delivery charge and honestly, I think its a well built machine for what it was designed to do. Having said that, I'm on the fence about some issues with it. The owners manual states 3 TIMES, do not overload it, period. They state a large load consists of 2 full or queen size sheets, 4 pillow cases, 2 nightgowns, & 1 pair of men's pj's.....and that's it. By todays standards of larger capacity machines, that would be considered a small load. (Honestly, I'd NEVER wash anymore than what they state, I'd get holes in shirts, frayed hemlines, and ripped towels, and a loud struggling transmission. I can see broken belts happening if it was overloaded as well.) I'd say the total usable capacity is about 12 lbs, damage free clothing.
For the size loads that it can wash it sure uses an awful lot of water, given the use of a 2nd rinse if it's needed, which is often depending on the detergent. Low sudsing detergents are a near must if you don't want a high water bill. I never use the soak cycle, as it spins the water out. I think it uses about 27 gallons per fill on a full load size. Full load: Presoak, wash, rinse, 2nd rinse would be 108 gallons of water....for what they consider full load. In short, it can be very expensive to run given high water rates around the country....and I've seen this in our own water bills.
This machine was no doubt designed and built for a coin op laundrymat, no doubt in my mind.
The things I do like about it are: fast cycle times, and hot tap water.
I would think there are better machines out there for residential use. Maybe their front loader would be better.
That's my experience and take on the machine.
Barry
I own a 2015 AWN432SP that I paid $1,019.00 that included tax and a steep $100 delivery charge and honestly, I think its a well built machine for what it was designed to do. Having said that, I'm on the fence about some issues with it. The owners manual states 3 TIMES, do not overload it, period. They state a large load consists of 2 full or queen size sheets, 4 pillow cases, 2 nightgowns, & 1 pair of men's pj's.....and that's it. By todays standards of larger capacity machines, that would be considered a small load. (Honestly, I'd NEVER wash anymore than what they state, I'd get holes in shirts, frayed hemlines, and ripped towels, and a loud struggling transmission. I can see broken belts happening if it was overloaded as well.) I'd say the total usable capacity is about 12 lbs, damage free clothing.
For the size loads that it can wash it sure uses an awful lot of water, given the use of a 2nd rinse if it's needed, which is often depending on the detergent. Low sudsing detergents are a near must if you don't want a high water bill. I never use the soak cycle, as it spins the water out. I think it uses about 27 gallons per fill on a full load size. Full load: Presoak, wash, rinse, 2nd rinse would be 108 gallons of water....for what they consider full load. In short, it can be very expensive to run given high water rates around the country....and I've seen this in our own water bills.
This machine was no doubt designed and built for a coin op laundrymat, no doubt in my mind.
The things I do like about it are: fast cycle times, and hot tap water.
I would think there are better machines out there for residential use. Maybe their front loader would be better.
That's my experience and take on the machine.
Barry
rancherman
Member
People do wierd things when NIB or. last one is printed
And apparently on appliances too!
I paid 919 for mine, LWN432 'delivered' from somewhere from the Bronx. (still waiting)
During the weekend, I've found them at actual drive up, back up to the dock, and load her up places for just over 700. https://www.coinomatic.com/new-laun...washer-two-speed-speed-queen-lwn432sp115tw01/
Sams Stores shows them for 799 https://www.samstores.com/product-s...al-top-load-washer-lwn432sp115tw01-29692.html
Throw in sales tax, and the cost to get it home.. I think I paid 'accordingly' for mine.
I really wouldn't want to drive into the pit of Chicago, Even though I could probably make the round trip for about 150 bucks. Last time I was in Chicago, I vowed never to go back. Neat things to do and see, but the driving isn't for the non-combatant! I did get pretty good at throwing toll money at the basket!
And apparently on appliances too!
I paid 919 for mine, LWN432 'delivered' from somewhere from the Bronx. (still waiting)
During the weekend, I've found them at actual drive up, back up to the dock, and load her up places for just over 700. https://www.coinomatic.com/new-laun...washer-two-speed-speed-queen-lwn432sp115tw01/
Sams Stores shows them for 799 https://www.samstores.com/product-s...al-top-load-washer-lwn432sp115tw01-29692.html
Throw in sales tax, and the cost to get it home.. I think I paid 'accordingly' for mine.
I really wouldn't want to drive into the pit of Chicago, Even though I could probably make the round trip for about 150 bucks. Last time I was in Chicago, I vowed never to go back. Neat things to do and see, but the driving isn't for the non-combatant! I did get pretty good at throwing toll money at the basket!
That washer is most certainly not worth $1600. I wouldn't pay anywhere near that price.
Really? Toll money thrown into the basket? I thought that went away long ago. Brings back memories of trips from suburban Chicagoland to northern Wisconsin back in the '60s in my uncle's big Mercury with the electric back window that went up and down.
Around here, all bridges have more cashless (aka "Fast-Trak" account) lanes than pay lanes, and you can't even use the HOV lanes without a Fast-Track transponder in your car. The Golden Gate Bridge is entirely cashless and uses Fast-Trak as well as license plate photos for billing.
@barry: AMEN!
Around here, all bridges have more cashless (aka "Fast-Trak" account) lanes than pay lanes, and you can't even use the HOV lanes without a Fast-Track transponder in your car. The Golden Gate Bridge is entirely cashless and uses Fast-Trak as well as license plate photos for billing.
@barry: AMEN!
twintubdexter
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #008000;">"a unicorn or something"...I like that!</span>
rancherman
Member
yeah, it's been 15 yrs since my 'visit' to chic
They did have the fast pay lanes, but since I was only there as a visitor, I didn't have that capability..
1 quarter, 1 dime, one nickel. rinse and repeat. geez, I think I spent 12 bucks just to get to the hockey arena... another 12 bucks to 'get the hell out of Dodge'.. Outbound traffic seemed more sane however..
I had to really 'knuckle up'.. I was in a beat-up 4 cylinder 1987 Chev S10... I noticed I was hugely underpowered in the drag races away from each toll booth. 10 lanes converging into 4 or 6. My co-pilot did the scouting, and keeping the loose change flowing. If not for her, I wouldn't be conversing here today. I know I'd been a road kill for sure.
Remember the movie Terminator, when they were being chased, and Arnold says;
This is the vehicle's top speed... 67 mph. That's what I was driving.
Road Warrior.. I am not.
They did have the fast pay lanes, but since I was only there as a visitor, I didn't have that capability..
1 quarter, 1 dime, one nickel. rinse and repeat. geez, I think I spent 12 bucks just to get to the hockey arena... another 12 bucks to 'get the hell out of Dodge'.. Outbound traffic seemed more sane however..
I had to really 'knuckle up'.. I was in a beat-up 4 cylinder 1987 Chev S10... I noticed I was hugely underpowered in the drag races away from each toll booth. 10 lanes converging into 4 or 6. My co-pilot did the scouting, and keeping the loose change flowing. If not for her, I wouldn't be conversing here today. I know I'd been a road kill for sure.
Remember the movie Terminator, when they were being chased, and Arnold says;
This is the vehicle's top speed... 67 mph. That's what I was driving.
Road Warrior.. I am not.
$1,800 with 2 1/2 hours remaining...
Auction ended at $1,875.
(Shipping not included.)
(Shipping not included.)
As PT Barnum Once Said,
there’s a sucker born every minute!
Eddie
there’s a sucker born every minute!
Eddie
gusherb
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Driving in Chicago
If you can drive around Chicago you can drive anywhere. When I went to the NYC area the first time I was worried it would be even worse than Chicago but turned out it was actually a little bit more civilized despite the amount of people on the road, and the crazy roads in NJ. People just drive like wild animals in the Chicago area period.
Also, the toll change baskets were gotten rid of at least 10 years ago.
And to keep it on topic; I love my SQ but wouldn’t pay over $800 for one like Eugene said. People can over hype them but they do clean very well and I personally find mine to do a pretty good job at rinsing. We had the Raytheon Amana machines and while they were basically the same thing, there were plenty of minor tweaks made that made the Alliance SQ’s considerably better than those Amana’s all around.
If you can drive around Chicago you can drive anywhere. When I went to the NYC area the first time I was worried it would be even worse than Chicago but turned out it was actually a little bit more civilized despite the amount of people on the road, and the crazy roads in NJ. People just drive like wild animals in the Chicago area period.
Also, the toll change baskets were gotten rid of at least 10 years ago.
And to keep it on topic; I love my SQ but wouldn’t pay over $800 for one like Eugene said. People can over hype them but they do clean very well and I personally find mine to do a pretty good job at rinsing. We had the Raytheon Amana machines and while they were basically the same thing, there were plenty of minor tweaks made that made the Alliance SQ’s considerably better than those Amana’s all around.
Amana
The Amanas are mostly fine though, my parents have the digital control one purchased when Circuit City stopped carrying appliances. Has only needed one belt in its life, still going strong.
As far as this one I don’t see why you just wouldn’t buy a full fledged commercial washer at that cost.
The Amanas are mostly fine though, my parents have the digital control one purchased when Circuit City stopped carrying appliances. Has only needed one belt in its life, still going strong.
As far as this one I don’t see why you just wouldn’t buy a full fledged commercial washer at that cost.
SQ AWN 432 For $1,600.00 +
Is not really a bad buy considering we sold over 800 of them at prices ranging from $800-1000 when you consider the only other way to get one now is the commercial model with no WL control and NO labor warranty for about the same money.
John L.
Is not really a bad buy considering we sold over 800 of them at prices ranging from $800-1000 when you consider the only other way to get one now is the commercial model with no WL control and NO labor warranty for about the same money.
John L.
