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I was notified by our ISP that automaticwasher.org used up 80% of its allowed December bandwidth on December 30. Bandwidth is traffic allowed on the site per month. Now being that this happend on the 30th, we only had one more day to go so there was no way at this time we were going to use up the other 20% in one day.

Now unfortunately the Super Forum is taking up well over 50% of the traffic of the entire site. If we continue to grow at the same pace that we are growing, the bandwidth is going to go over 100% before the end of each month probably by this Spring or early Summer. When then happens is the site will become unavailable until midnight of the 1st of the next month.

Any suggestions on how to curb the bandwidth/traffic usage?
 
Bandwidth Troubles

Robert,
I do not know what would have to be done in this case. But please know I am here if you need any assistance at all to keep the club going. If you need a contribution to update that will be no problem at all.
Happy New Year
Peter
 
When you say traffic, is that just people coming in to look, or is that postings, or both?

I already made a new year's resolution to not start a new thread every time a thought enters my brain. Will that help?
 
i dont know about these things really... but how about decreasing the size of images that are allowed to upload? as it is, the size allowed is very generous.
 
What about

Hi Robert,

From the Create new thread page, use the Other Non-Appliance Related Topic radio button, to hide the Upload JPEG part of the new message form?

Add an extra variable to the Create new thread form, and make the display of the Upload Dialog on the message form dependant on its value.

That would still allow for non appliance related chat, but would require any images to be linked to, rather than imbedded in the message.

Regards

Nathan
 
Unimatic1140~

Robert~

Wow, the Super Forum has really taken off!. Whatever I can do to help let me know. AndrewinOrlando would be a great person to ask for help since he is a software engineer.<a man that knows everything,truly!>
This site brings alot of pleasure to many. I am sure whatever we need to do to prevent this we will all happily oblige.

Take Care
SudsShane
 
Thanks guys good suggestions so far. One thing to note is that money will not cure this problem, unless its a huge amount something that I will do not wish to bother with. The only thing that will cure this problem is using less bandwidth.

Not allowing pictures in the Super Forum would help for a while.

Not archiving the Super Forum might help a small amount, but most of the bandwidth usage comes out of the active Forums.

Other suggestions?
 
Imbedded images or linked images will still generate bandwidth traffic since the activity to view or to download must still come through the site. Images co-located elsewhere, for example, on YouTube create utilize bandwidth to get to the image itself, as it must come through the site here first via a posting.

Video/audio files played through the site will generate more bandwidth traffic then those downloaded from the site and viewed offline, especially if they are viewed multiple times. Would preventing viewing of video/audio files through the site help alleviate some of the problem? Do we have statistics as to how much bandwidth these are taking up? Many of us love to imbed video images into our posts, and there are many excellent ones out there, too, which we enjoy viewing over and over again! There are also the video/audio files housed in the "See It Wash" and other areas of the site, too. Might this help?

Andrew
 
A further thought

I know most of the time after you initially read a thread, you dont necessarily go back to look at the pictures, you might just scroll to the bottom to catch up on the latest info.

If all pictures were uploaded to aw.org as per the current form, but were displayed as a hyperlink that created a popup, that way the pictures wouldnt consume download bandwidth unless you actively chose to view them.

The layout wouldnt be quite as smooth, but it would reduce the bandwidth required to view a thread with 4 or 5 images from 500K to 20K.
 
Hi Andrew,

The video is not stored or viewed on this site, we have a separate server for that, Jon Charles (Jetcone) pays for that every year.

So the bandwidth issues are not video related.
 
Well, God bless Jon Charles Jetcone, and thank you so much.

I agree with Gregory. All of the trouble starts on this forum, and many people had/have full active lives before finding the miracle of fellow washer people, and come here, to their hobby, to talk about washers. They already had avenues for politics, etc, and perhaps Yahoo groups are more suited to those needs. We need Automatic Washers. org. to enjoy this very rare interest. It is indispensable. All the rest may lead to the inevitable death of this club.
 
Hi Robert,

If AW.org went to a paid membership that would NOT bother me one bit and I would be more than happy to contribute. It would definitely separate the wheat from the chaff, if you know what I mean, which would reduce bandwidth in itself.

It may take a while, but what about deleting some of the "nonsense" threads, which I've seen quite a few of?
 
What do you mean "wheat from the chaff", westborotoploader?

Robert, in all seriousness, you have to do what you have to do.

If you give us the word that restricting posts on Super to strictly appliance-related topics is what is required in order for automaticwasher.org, I will certainly abide by your wishes.

Scott
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I promised i would not post as much and i will.. IMHO, i will put any pitctures i wish to put up here on my yahoo picture account... Will that help?

A yahoo group wouldn't be bad, but unsure how this works

I would also hate to loose the super fourm as i enjoy the tips, etc... I think that's its purpose is to be the off topic disccusion bord...

ALso would pay if need be, but from what you've said robert that won't help...

So..
I will put my pictures up on yahoo and cut out posting so much.. Chad
 
It's Westytoploader, or Austin to you

I am sorry, but I do have to say your remark about Austin was totally uncalled for Oxy. I know Austin, and he is one of the most un-homophobic teens I know. What up with you anyway? Do you think everyone that lives in the South is out to get you? Or is it just everyone in general?

I think you need to chill on that stuff.
 
I am willing to do whatever is needed to help with the bandwidth situation. If it is dues, or whatever it is, please count me in.
 
oh my........

I started a political thread....and then the next thing I did was read THIS! Maybe should do a "no politics, no religion" rule. I am sure that would save HEAPS of bandwidth. Especially with an election year fastly approaching. Tom
 
Is there a way that we can delete older threads and put them in archives so people will only respond to current one, thus limiting the number of responses per suject matter? Would this help?
 
Amen Rick!

Don't you think such divisiveness coming from someone who professes justice and tolerance is ironic, or at the very least hypocritic?

Confucius say: "It's impossible for man to make point with pointy-headed man".

Enough of this wasted bandwith already. Meaningless threads and mega-posts by single persons have gotten out of hand, and are about to bring the site down with a major crash. Most of these threads/posts are not even appliance or vintage related. We need to get back to what this forum was founded for - our love and appreciation of vintage appliances.

I totally agree with Greg...non-appliance related discussions and perhaps even want-ad notices should be "Yahoo'd" to relieve space. Any youtube videos should be merely referenced to allow interested parties to download them instead of using the forum's space.
 
EUREKA !! I have it !

We can post all of our non-appliance related chatter over on Vacuumland ! They aren't that busy over there ! :) <p> I also know they have a great sense of humor ! Tom
 
Robert,
I am wondering if money would help you with this? Just kidding.
I actually like Greg's idea of having the super forum on Yahoo.
From your asking, it will get better for awhile, but then it will start all over again. I would say just from the growth that is taking place. New people not knowing about the bandwidth limits. It seems like this is what is happening now.
What I am going to do to help, is go see my Shrink two times a week instead of just once. That will cutdown a good bit of my posting in the Super Forum.
Thanks for everything that you do Robert!
Brent
 

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