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[jetcone]

Nice Machine

Richard, didn't you post a video on U tube??

 

[kenmore81]

Aussie, Check this out

This link shows the basic design of the average vented clothes dryer. Here in the U.S. we have very few condenser dryers. I imagine because the demand is low.
Kenny

How Clothes Dryers Work

A dryer is actually a very simple device. In this article we'll take apart a clothes dryer and explore how each system works. We'll start by following the air through the machine, then see how the tumbler and fan turn, and finally look at the controls.

home.howstuffworks.com

 

[aussie-plugs]

Vented versus Condener

Kenny,

Thanks for the link to the Vented design. Does anyone have anything on the design of the washer/dryer combos? Did the Bendix our UK friend has actually use the same principle as a conventional vented dryer? And how do modern washer/dryers work? I'm trying to understand where the need for a constant supply of water during the drying cycle comes from.

Nick

 

[dj-gabriele]

Hi there Nick!
In a "modern" condensing washer-dryer on top of the drum there is a small vane with a fan and a heating coil that circulates the air usually from the back to the front of the drum via a hole in the rubber seal (I have always seen those in the upper right part of it). On the back of the drum, right before the circulating fan there is a chamber in which the hot moist air is passed in a heat exchanger cooled by running water (as far as I know on some model there is a water spray) so the sudden drop in temperature makes the water vapour to condense and after this is pumped out along the cooling water. Usually this process uses between 30 to 80 litres of water per load but has the advantege that no outside air is drawn in the drum which is good if you have the W/D in a toilet or in the kitchen, also it avoid outside moisture venting, so there's no waste in air conditioning or heating.
I think that air condenser unit aren't used as there isn't enough space in the cabinet but I'm not sure as standard condensing dryers have drum as big as 120L and most are air condensing ones!

 

[dj-gabriele]

My bad...

please change:
...there is a small vane with...
with
...there is a small duct with...

I got confused with Italian "vano" witch means "compartment"

 

[favorit]

vented combos, condenser combos, blowers .....

aussie-plug, you're right : once there were some german combos without blower (I guess made by Lepper and badged as Matura, AEG and Bauknecht). To be effective they had to heat @ hightemp and clothes yellowing was an issue.

In the meanwhile there were vented combos as these Philco/Bendix and the GHIBLI made by SANGIORGIO in IT
These saved water, but not paint & elbowgrease : one had to keep windows open while drying otherwise the room had to be painted every 6 months. The only vented combo with an exaust pipeline is that old Whirlpool in our Webmaster collection.

The solution to both issues was a condensed combo with blower.
Consider also that usually combos are bought by those who haven't much place and haven't a vent in the wall
I had a Candy 16 WD blower/condenser combo. The slow spin speed 570 rpm caused it take centuries to dry, waste plenty of power and water .... to dry

Today Miele makes the W2670 combo than uses 9 litres only while drying. BTW I'd never buy it : separate miele washer & dryer are much cheaper and faster.

Dryers
once they were vented only;
here (IT) dryers started getting popular in the last 5/6 years,once we had rare zanussi vented ones
That's why we've only condenser D, while in northern EU still there are vented ones (houses have proper vent in the wall behind the D), that are more energy-efficent

Latest D have an heat pump inside : the hot side warms the air to the cylinder, the cold side is used as condenser.
This cold condenser is so more efficent than usual air heat exchanger, that heat pump dryers are A rated (best energy savings)

 

[favorit]

Richard congrats,
your LT is a dream, your kitchen/laundry room too (what about those matching tiles & curtains ?!?)

I'm also weak about the LT fascia. It looks like some medical devices of those times

 

[favorit]

ore 13.45 : sono pronte le lasagne ? ;-)

Nick, you can see what Gabriele wrote. Check pics of the other thread "and on and on.... ARISTON WD" .
It's the pic with the concrete on the tub

Forgot to say early condenser dryers in the late 70s were water condensed as combos. Later came air condensed ones

 

[dj-gabriele]

Oh Lasagne

I had a light meal today as I spent most of the night at Fiumicino waiting for the plane to arrive :S and feel terrible today!

 

[favorit]

AEG Lavamat 2050 (y 1985/86)

A freestanding/undercounter combo with framed (customizable)big door.

Here the translation of words from IT to EN (clockwise)

Resistenza elettrica = electric heater
Ventilatore = fan
Aria raffreddata = cooled air
Scarico = drain
Pompa = pump
Condensatore = condenser
Evaporazione = evaporation
Aria calda = hot air

 

[favorit]

Zanussi/Rex Combos Jetsystem Turbodry (90ies)

The picture left is the jetsystem (spray wash), the right one the drying sys

 

[ricky5050]

how the Bendix LT works

Hi the drying part of my machine is vented, the one and only motor has a gearbox with 2 drives constantly running from it at the back , one to the drum ( through a 2 speed gear changer) and one to a fan which runs all of the time, when a drying mode is selected a soleniod valve opens a flap at the back of the wash outer drum allowing the ever turning fan to suck air through the drum from the heating element which is located on the top of the outer drum which directs heat down in to the front edge of the wash drum.Its very effective dryer and can be set to auto dry a wash load.
please see more kitchen pics and a link to the bendix washing (its less noisy in real life !)

Richard

 

[ricky5050]

more vids

hi some more vids and kitchen pics

 

[favorit]

I'm amazed the way that small Whirlie microwave oven matches the old AEG fridge and that beautiful range (which brand is it?).

Does your LT have interim spins between rinses on wool cycle too ? Old washers were "afraid" to spin wool. Philco was the first to understand that wool is shrunk by tumbles, not by spins

 

[aussie-plugs]

Thanks everyone

Hi Gabriele, "Favorit" and Richard,

Thanks for all the information. I understand a lot more now than I did when I started. Who makes the heat pump models you mentioned? I'd heard of something like that in Japan, but haven't seen anything like it here in Australia.

Nick

 

[ronhic]

Nick

Heat pump dryers use the same principle as reverse cycle airconditioners...

Miele has just released a heat pump version here - Choice have just tested it and it is more efficient and rates very well...BUT it is expensive

...and AEG and Siemans have heat pump dryers available to the European and UK markets though AEG seems to have gone from our market of late...

 

[aussie-plugs]

Heat Pump Drying ...

Hi Chris,

Thanks. I'll check the "Choice" web site tomorrow for that report.

Nick

 

[favorit]

also check this old, interesting thread (link)

Found by the Searchalator (forum home page,scroll down)

AEG H.P. dryer- Here Elux has just released the REX rebadged version, so guess you'll have in OZ the Zanussi or Electrolux badged version very soon

In the meanwhile they launched in Germany the AEG ProSteam dryer, that's a rebadged Zanussi Iron Aid (uses steam to dewrinkle clothes as the LGs)

Condenser dryers (both air and heat pump types) require not only lint screen cleaning, but also heat excanger cleaning.
Bosch/Siemens models are the only ones that have a self cleaning heat exchanger.

Last thing about self-cleaning. Combos DON'T have any lint screen, so their fan/air circuit get easily clogged by lint.
Only mieles have a drying circuit cleaning cycle.

http://www.automaticwasher.org/TD/ARCHIVE/MODERN/2008/18690x44.htm

 

[vivalalavatrice]

Che spettacolo!!!

Grazie Carlo!!
Uno spettacolo di foto!

Really I'm impressed of the goodlooking of those machine and how can't be nostalgic about their realiability!!!!

Then apart from the extralarge drum...here you are how the "Doppio attacco" (hot-cold fill) is not nothing of new...

Very very nice the W65 model with the top control panel...)

Buone le lasagne ... Gabri ma le fai tu?
CIAO!
Diomede

 

[dj-gabriele]

Certo, tiro anche la sfoglia a mano!

Anyway, I want a washer dryer so badly! I'm against machine drying but there are some textiles that get so nice and fluffy done that way!