mrb627
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Prewash
I have noticed the existence of prewash slowly disappearing from new machines.
Malcolm
I have noticed the existence of prewash slowly disappearing from new machines.
Malcolm
benefits of long wash cycles
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Sometimes It Still Remains
But called under another name.
Miele washers sold in the USA have "heavy soil" option which adds a prewash before the main cycle.
In general one feels prewash cycles are going because most Amercians and others such as in Western Europe simply do not produce grossly dirty laundry. Even children today are less apt to come home covered in mud/crud and dirt as in times past.
But called under another name.
Miele washers sold in the USA have "heavy soil" option which adds a prewash before the main cycle.
In general one feels prewash cycles are going because most Amercians and others such as in Western Europe simply do not produce grossly dirty laundry. Even children today are less apt to come home covered in mud/crud and dirt as in times past.
pierreandreply4
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just answer this question very simple?
What will you do if the next generations of washers where only 2 water temp warm water cold rinse and cold water cold rinse tand that they eliminated the hot water wash temp like they eliminated the warm rinse washer control is pic number 2 and pic number3 and also i think eliminating true warm rinse from washers of today was a mistake because sometime when i do laundry i must restart the washer 1:04 minute counting extra rinse to make sure the warm water eliminates all suds before the cold rinse steps in?
What will you do if the next generations of washers where only 2 water temp warm water cold rinse and cold water cold rinse tand that they eliminated the hot water wash temp like they eliminated the warm rinse washer control is pic number 2 and pic number3 and also i think eliminating true warm rinse from washers of today was a mistake because sometime when i do laundry i must restart the washer 1:04 minute counting extra rinse to make sure the warm water eliminates all suds before the cold rinse steps in?
Pre-Wash VS Long Wash
I personally have my own stain tackle strategy there.
I certanly like the benefits of a double wash. However, some instance I find it a waste of resources.
For my whites, the double wash allows the on-spot cleaning and brightening, while protecting my printed T-Shirts by using a lower wash temp, usually 40°C \ 104°F.
Its basicly the same effect used on curtains being pre-washed.
On some occasions, if I want a load done quick, but thourough, I use our AEGs ability to combine a super short wash (Wash at 140°F, 2 rinses, 1600 rpm spin in 1h 17 minutes) with a pre-wash. This upps the wash time by about 25 minutes.
Then again, our cleaning rags get a pre-wash to get rid of any soap residue, sand, dirt, mud, whatever, to get effectibe washing action during the main wash, as described by Laundress.
However, for set in stains, a long wash is my go-to. With the AEG doing almost 2h main washes, it is basicly a soak and wash combined. And with good old EU progressive heating, stains are gone.
For example: My average bedding load in the AEG gets a 100-110 minute wash, going up to 140°F for about 20 minutes, 5 rinses (effectivley 4 due to the lack of the spin between wash and first rinse) and a long final spin.
That being said: AEG now upped their new ÖkoMix range with 3:45h cycles as standard. This gives you a good 160 minute main wash. It basicly includes a soak now, thus makeing the idea of one abundant.
And with some Eco cycles now topping out at 6 whole hours, but never going beyond 100°F, we have officialy reached the soak-is-the-new-wash status here in Europe. But those cycles actually seem to clean somewhat well. At least the 4h versions I tried did.
I personally have my own stain tackle strategy there.
I certanly like the benefits of a double wash. However, some instance I find it a waste of resources.
For my whites, the double wash allows the on-spot cleaning and brightening, while protecting my printed T-Shirts by using a lower wash temp, usually 40°C \ 104°F.
Its basicly the same effect used on curtains being pre-washed.
On some occasions, if I want a load done quick, but thourough, I use our AEGs ability to combine a super short wash (Wash at 140°F, 2 rinses, 1600 rpm spin in 1h 17 minutes) with a pre-wash. This upps the wash time by about 25 minutes.
Then again, our cleaning rags get a pre-wash to get rid of any soap residue, sand, dirt, mud, whatever, to get effectibe washing action during the main wash, as described by Laundress.
However, for set in stains, a long wash is my go-to. With the AEG doing almost 2h main washes, it is basicly a soak and wash combined. And with good old EU progressive heating, stains are gone.
For example: My average bedding load in the AEG gets a 100-110 minute wash, going up to 140°F for about 20 minutes, 5 rinses (effectivley 4 due to the lack of the spin between wash and first rinse) and a long final spin.
That being said: AEG now upped their new ÖkoMix range with 3:45h cycles as standard. This gives you a good 160 minute main wash. It basicly includes a soak now, thus makeing the idea of one abundant.
And with some Eco cycles now topping out at 6 whole hours, but never going beyond 100°F, we have officialy reached the soak-is-the-new-wash status here in Europe. But those cycles actually seem to clean somewhat well. At least the 4h versions I tried did.
mamapinky
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I do a lot of soaking, actually most loads get soaked, and most loads get a prewash. I never understood letting clothes soak in a tub of dirty water, there's no benefits to that.however if I'm washing a load of lightly soiled shirts I will shut the washer off midway thru agitation for a 30/60 minute soak, than resume the cycle, but anything other than light soils get a prewash. I almost always put my whites in at night, first a prewash in lukewarm, than fill up with hot 130/140f , add STPP, detergent and sometimes sodium percarbonate depending on my detergent choice, agitate 5 minutes than shut off till morning. My whites are always dazzling white and always fresh smelling. They wouldn't be if they just had a normal wash even in hot water if they are just moving around in dirty water. Cheryl
benefits
Hey guys, late to the party but I can tell you a benefit for long wash cycles. Dealing with the toughest dirtiest smelliest loads need that cycle and aggressive agitation and the proper temps so that the enzymes and surfactants can do their jobs properly, especially in today's machines.
Hey guys, late to the party but I can tell you a benefit for long wash cycles. Dealing with the toughest dirtiest smelliest loads need that cycle and aggressive agitation and the proper temps so that the enzymes and surfactants can do their jobs properly, especially in today's machines.
Seeing as you've resurrected this thread. The eco 40-60°C cotton wash cycle on current A rated EU/UK energy efficient washing machines can take 3 hours 30 minutes plus.
90% of the electricity used in a normal wash is for heating the water, so to save energy, they use minimal water and wash at a lower temperature than the 40-60C cycle temperature would suggest, and the longer wash cycle is designed to achieve the same level of cleaning as a standard cotton wash.
Even my current machine, which is a fair bit older than this thread and doesn't even have an energy efficient inverter driven motor has a 2 hour 30 minute cycle for its eco cotton wash, although I prefer to use the standard wash because it washes at higher temperature.
Here's a review comparing the wash quality and electricity usage of a recent Miele and Indesit on a 40°C and a 60°C eco cotton wash, that I just watched after it happened to pop up as a youtube recommendation.
90% of the electricity used in a normal wash is for heating the water, so to save energy, they use minimal water and wash at a lower temperature than the 40-60C cycle temperature would suggest, and the longer wash cycle is designed to achieve the same level of cleaning as a standard cotton wash.
Even my current machine, which is a fair bit older than this thread and doesn't even have an energy efficient inverter driven motor has a 2 hour 30 minute cycle for its eco cotton wash, although I prefer to use the standard wash because it washes at higher temperature.
Here's a review comparing the wash quality and electricity usage of a recent Miele and Indesit on a 40°C and a 60°C eco cotton wash, that I just watched after it happened to pop up as a youtube recommendation.
Good to see Mr. Daniel Shepard still out and about, and his company "CanDo Laundry" is prospering.
At just 19 years old Mr. Shepard founded CanDo laundry and it has been a love life's work ever since.
https://candolaundryservices.co.uk/great-british-entrepreneur-awards/
www.stephenkinnock.co.uk
At just 19 years old Mr. Shepard founded CanDo laundry and it has been a love life's work ever since.
https://candolaundryservices.co.uk/great-british-entrepreneur-awards/
CanDo Laundry Visit - Stephen Kinnock - Labour MP for Aberafan Maesteg
I paid an interesting visit to CanDo Laundry based in Sandfields. It was great to see first hand how this award winning commercial laundry and linen hire business works, and to see their purpose built state of the art facility. CanDo Laundry was started by Daniel Shepherd, who won the Young...
www.stephenkinnock.co.uk
I noticed in that review I posted, he was a little bit naughty plugging in both washing machines in the same extension lead and he didn't even uncoil it. Must have been over 4,000 watts at peak while both elements were going, probably a bit lucky it didn't trip the thermal cut out built into the cable reel.
