I fetched the infamous Lady Shredmore yesterday. It waited patiently in Bob's garage since Oct 2006. RepairGuy/Melvin went along for the ride and to assist with loading. Yay!
Bob bid it a solemn and approving good bye.
Bob's Lady Shredmore
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I fetched the infamous Lady Shredmore yesterday. It waited patiently in Bob's garage since Oct 2006. RepairGuy/Melvin went along for the ride and to assist with loading. Yay!
Bob bid it a solemn and approving good bye.
Dan, member Steve 1-18 brought me a Fridgemore front loader October 2006 that coincided also with a south Texas wash-in weekend. Glenn asked me what I was going to do with the LK and I wasn't sure. He asked me to hold onto it until he would have room to add it to his collection. And he was finally able to come get it.
Reply #1
Now you know why I don’t particularly care for the direct drives since they don’t do a spray rinse on the first spin. The early direct drives did multiple spray rinses on the first spin…cue the commercial…on a slow spin. It really seems like Whirlpool dropped the ball when they went to the direct drives not in terms of quality control or build quality, but in terms of the way they were programmed. There’s a couple of people on YouTube who claim “direct drives are the best washers ever made” but since I’ve owned my Whirlpool, the belt drives are the best machines ever made no only in the unique sounds they make, but in their rinsing performance as well. I’d argue the belt drive design were the pinnacle of Whirlpool.
Now you know why I don’t particularly care for the direct drives since they don’t do a spray rinse on the first spin. The early direct drives did multiple spray rinses on the first spin…cue the commercial…on a slow spin. It really seems like Whirlpool dropped the ball when they went to the direct drives not in terms of quality control or build quality, but in terms of the way they were programmed. There’s a couple of people on YouTube who claim “direct drives are the best washers ever made” but since I’ve owned my Whirlpool, the belt drives are the best machines ever made no only in the unique sounds they make, but in their rinsing performance as well. I’d argue the belt drive design were the pinnacle of Whirlpool.
repairguy
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Glenn I’m glad this nice piece of washer history found a good home and that Bob was able to save it for you. It’s definitely in good condition and will be around for years to come. Thanks for inviting me to tag along and thanks to Bob for the hospitality.
First lady Kenmore, direct drive washer?
I believe this was the first of the direct drive washer to where the lady Kenmore name, this was a very popular machine. We saw a lot of these in our area, and they proved to be quite durable.
We have one just like this in the toast color that’s in Manty shape at the warehouse that I guess will get saved for the museum.
Of the many customers that had this machine I never heard anybody complain about it in anyway in terms of performance.
Hi Bob, I’m glad you save this and Were able to pass it on to other collectors, I imagine it’s still in quite good shape as you take good care of things.
I’m sure you’ve saved a lot of electricity with your front loaders since this machine was sidelined years ago. I have four vintage top loaders hooked up in my laundry set up at home, will have two more in the future but I hardly ever use them. They just used too much water detergent etc. The only time I use them as when I can swap the wash water to another machine at least get a second load out of it.
John
I believe this was the first of the direct drive washer to where the lady Kenmore name, this was a very popular machine. We saw a lot of these in our area, and they proved to be quite durable.
We have one just like this in the toast color that’s in Manty shape at the warehouse that I guess will get saved for the museum.
Of the many customers that had this machine I never heard anybody complain about it in anyway in terms of performance.
Hi Bob, I’m glad you save this and Were able to pass it on to other collectors, I imagine it’s still in quite good shape as you take good care of things.
I’m sure you’ve saved a lot of electricity with your front loaders since this machine was sidelined years ago. I have four vintage top loaders hooked up in my laundry set up at home, will have two more in the future but I hardly ever use them. They just used too much water detergent etc. The only time I use them as when I can swap the wash water to another machine at least get a second load out of it.
John
Good save, I had one of these LKs way back in 87 when I worked at Sears and bought a customer returned set. Nice washer all around.
It's been too long since we've seen you Bob, that beard threw me for a second. Looking good!
thatwasherguy
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The legend is REAL!!!!
Nice to see the Loch Ness monster of AW.org finally unmasked. Looks like a fun machine, glad to know it was saved.
Thatwasherguy.
Nice to see the Loch Ness monster of AW.org finally unmasked. Looks like a fun machine, glad to know it was saved.
Thatwasherguy.
blockeight88
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Spray Rinses
Many of the Kenmore direct drives had 2 spray rinses after the first drain and 2 after the last rinse agitation. This was known as the “ultra rinse system”.
My 96 Ultra Fabric Care model only does two sprays after the rings agitation but that’s ok. My clothes still come out perfectly clean. Direct drives are the only washers I will ever use. I got rid of my TC5 for this reason.
Many of the Kenmore direct drives had 2 spray rinses after the first drain and 2 after the last rinse agitation. This was known as the “ultra rinse system”.
My 96 Ultra Fabric Care model only does two sprays after the rings agitation but that’s ok. My clothes still come out perfectly clean. Direct drives are the only washers I will ever use. I got rid of my TC5 for this reason.
I've not not any dissatisfaction with rinsing on the various direct-drives I've used. Whirlpool, KitchenAid, & Kenmore models from 1984, 1991, 1994, 1999, 2002, 2003.
ryner1988
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Was this machine made before Kenmore relabeled their cycles to reflect the change to short-stroke agitation? I know for a while, the same cycle names and setup were still used on control panels as was used on the belt drives, i.e., cotton/sturdy, delicate, etc.
thatwasherguy
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RyneR...
This is an older direct drive from the late 1980’s to early 1990’s. It’s cycle labels are cotton/sturdy, permanent press, knit/delicate, and pre-soak/pre-wash. It has the later black-on-black and woodgrain control panel with the main control knob moved to the right, rather than in the center.
Hope this helps,
Thatwasherguy.
This is an older direct drive from the late 1980’s to early 1990’s. It’s cycle labels are cotton/sturdy, permanent press, knit/delicate, and pre-soak/pre-wash. It has the later black-on-black and woodgrain control panel with the main control knob moved to the right, rather than in the center.
Hope this helps,
Thatwasherguy.
I was transferred from suburban northwest Houston January 1986 and we had a very small Sears store. October, 1986 I visited a former neighbor in Rochester, NY and we managed to go through a real Sears and when I walked through the appliance deptarment my head did a whiplash at the sight of the totally redesigned Kenmore wash control panels. I was so imipressed with the demo at the store of the turnover of the load. The clothes movement reminded me so much of a Unimatic washing, and it did kinda sound like it. Little did I know how much UNLIKE a Unimatic's gentleness would this machine be. My first load was towels and I was immediately mad because the post wash spin did NOT have any spray rinse. After the rinse, there was only one spray rinse about 10 seconds after the spin began. Needless to say, from that day forward the 2nd rinse option stayed selected for the duration of the machine being in my laundry room due to the abysmal rinsing. In 1990 or 1991 I visited my best friend from college and his family as they had moved to another house Dallas. They'd bought a new Kenmore Series 70 model as they left their FFlo pair at their old house. As usual when I visited I helped out with laundry and dishes. You can imagine my shock when using the normal cycle both spins had 2 spray rinses. To put it bluntly I was pissed because the post-wash 2 spray rinses made all the difference in rinsing. I felt like I was cheated.
Reply #12
This is another reason why the belt drives were a much, much better machine in terms of rinsing capabilities. With my Whirlpool, the water coming out of the drain hose on the final spin had little to no suds coming out of it, only time that would happen is when a suds-lock would happen.
If Whirlpool did 3 6 second spray rinses with a fast spin on the direct drives, there wouldn’t be any complaints about rinsing performance. It seems as though Whirlpool did a half-arse job in programming department on the direct drives.
This is another reason why the belt drives were a much, much better machine in terms of rinsing capabilities. With my Whirlpool, the water coming out of the drain hose on the final spin had little to no suds coming out of it, only time that would happen is when a suds-lock would happen.
If Whirlpool did 3 6 second spray rinses with a fast spin on the direct drives, there wouldn’t be any complaints about rinsing performance. It seems as though Whirlpool did a half-arse job in programming department on the direct drives.
"It seems as though Whirlpool did a half-arse job in programming department on the direct drives."
It wasn't a half assed decision, it was a deliberate water savings technique. For a while, some of the later DD's had a very shallow non-adjustable deep rinse fill (used a separate water pressure switch to accomplish) which had destructive results to both fabrics and rinsing performance alike. Owners were LIVID about it, which eventually forced Whirlpool to revert back to a true deep fill after the insane amount of hatred they were receiving. To this day, all Whirlpool based top loaders still have a true full deep rinse. They learned their lesson the hard way.
It wasn't a half assed decision, it was a deliberate water savings technique. For a while, some of the later DD's had a very shallow non-adjustable deep rinse fill (used a separate water pressure switch to accomplish) which had destructive results to both fabrics and rinsing performance alike. Owners were LIVID about it, which eventually forced Whirlpool to revert back to a true deep fill after the insane amount of hatred they were receiving. To this day, all Whirlpool based top loaders still have a true full deep rinse. They learned their lesson the hard way.
DDs with that low-level rinse were toward the end of production. I worked on a couple coin-op machines a few years ago for an RV park, factory-set as such with a wiring option provided to route the rinse fill through the wash pressure switch, which I did.
On the other hand, my Kenmore compact washer does a solid 2 minute spray rinse on the first and final spin, a total of 4 minutes of spray rinsing. Didn’t do any modifications to it other than to fix a issue with the timer (wasn’t turning with the knob, but was turning with the dial face), not sure what I did but now does a 2 minute solid spray rinses. Will rinse the heck out of stuff that’s for sure.
blockeight88
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Rinsing
Just my two cents, but having only 2 spray rinses at the end of the rinse cycle is more than sufficient for me. The washer has the second rinse option, but I never use it. I mean even if I did use it, would I really tell a difference with my clothes?
Also the 4 spray rinses (2 after post wash cycle) (2 post rinse) spray out of the from left side on my 2002 Kenmore Elite washer with the triple dispensers. For some reason, my water pressure isn't as strong on that machine as it is on my '96 UFC.
Just my two cents, but having only 2 spray rinses at the end of the rinse cycle is more than sufficient for me. The washer has the second rinse option, but I never use it. I mean even if I did use it, would I really tell a difference with my clothes?
Also the 4 spray rinses (2 after post wash cycle) (2 post rinse) spray out of the from left side on my 2002 Kenmore Elite washer with the triple dispensers. For some reason, my water pressure isn't as strong on that machine as it is on my '96 UFC.
pierreandreply4
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at least whats positive
these are my own toughs speaking at least the positive side is that it gives the washer a second life use, and will be useful to its new owner
these are my own toughs speaking at least the positive side is that it gives the washer a second life use, and will be useful to its new owner
