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We got the Bosch dishwasher installed yesterday. I love the look. Just have a question though: I notice that the inside stays pretty moist; moisture on the sides and inside the door. Since this is a stainless interior, am I just noticing it more?

Also, with the plastic items that were washed; they tended to retain beaded up water on them. Is this typical?
 
Congratulations on your new machine. I've had mine for about a year and love it. What I really like about the machine is I can load it up like crazy. I don't have to worry about not putting plastics on the bottom or stuff melting and burning. Plus, it's in the kitchen which is part of the family room and you can barely hear the thing running. I've posted a link over to That Homesite, The Garden Web, Appliances. It's a pretty good site, lots of infomation to sift through.

Depending on your Bosch model you may have the option for a hotter final rinse. The set up instructions are in the back of your manual. I find this helps with the lighter plastic items. Like those throw away leftover containers. I just keep using mine over and over.

The Bosch dries via a condensation system. So apparently the heavier or more substantial the item the better it will dry. What I do is let the thing finish it's drying cycle. Wait about 1/2 hour then open the door and let steam out and wait until the dishes are cool enough to handle. This usually gets those light plastic items dry.

Our water here in Las Vegas is hard as rocks. In the rinse aid dispenser you can adjust the amount of rinse aid. Try the different settings to see which one works best for you. Again, this also helps with the water sheeting and final drying as well.

You may also notice, depending on your water hardness, detergent use, that the stainless will get marks or calcium looking build up. I just hit mine with some Limeway or CLR and it looks find, hasn't hurt the machine. A little on a sponge then run the machine on a light cycle.

They also don't have a food grinder for those odd bits that get in the machine. At the bottom there is a screen. I check mine about once a month. Twist out the part on the top of the screen. Clean that part, the screen and the very fine metal screen under the large piece. I did find the fine metal screen getting a calcium build up, so I hit it with the CLR and it's back to new.

 
Hey Venus;

We have a Bosch dishwasher at work, and my grandma also has a Neff version, and both of them leave the interior slightly moist due to their condensation drying cycle, as Ironrite pointed out. However I've found that if unloaded a while after it's ended, that stuff comes out as dry as a... dry dish!

How are you adjusting to a European-style dishwasher versus the old US one you had before? It was a Hotpoint, wasn't it? Until 2003 when Merloni bought out Hotpoint, Hotpoint used to contract Bosch to make dishwashers for them, kinda ironic if you think about it.

I've attached a pic of my Grandma's Neff dishwasher, which is probably similar to yours. If I remember correctly, yours is the base model, no?

Jon

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Joe,

Yes, Neff is BSH's niche brand in the built-in market. Her cupboards actually do have handles, but they are out of site in the photo. The "drawer" under the sink is a dummy fascia, however the door underneath it has a handle on the top left just out of the photo. The cupboards to the left of the dishwasher have an L shaped door which is hinged in the middle - again the handle is on the right hand side of the cupboard around the corner from that, and it opens out.

Jon

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Bosch DW

Michael and Jon:

Thank you both for all of the wonderful information! I will certainly experiment to make sure the Bosch runs at maximum efficiency (and makes mom happy). I will be putting the jet dry in today. Our water is pretty hard as well. You wouldn't believe what it can do to a chrome finish. Very sad. I had planned on checking the filter once a month anyway. I usually rinse my dishes into the sink with the disposal, so there isn't too much to get in to the dishwasher. It makes me cringe to put a food-laden plate into the dishwasher.

Westy will post pics of the dw later. Jon, it has four buttons on the right side vs. the three on your grandma's. Still getting used to the configuration for loading, but at least I don't have flakes of dishwasher detergent in my glasses and on my plates (yuk).

Venus
 
Jon,

Thanks for the explaination. The interior looks similar to my Bosch's interior, though the racks and silverware basket are different.

What is that grey plastic piece on the bottom left of the tub? It looks like a lid of some sort.

Joe
 
Joe,

Do you mean the salt compartment??? If so, that's the lid to the water softening unit where the salt is added through. Do the American Bosch dishwashers not have a water softener?

I'm intrigued, maybe that explains the reason of a "Sanitized" light in the place where the "Salt Refill" light should be. If you look closely at the exterior pic, you can see where I mean.

Jon
 
Do the American Bosch dishwashers have the sliding detergent dispenser versus a spring loaded flap?

Venus - so how is your Bosch dishwasher??? Are you impressed with the results? I must admit Bosch dishwashers are one of the most easiest to load (only dishwasher I find easier to load are AEG (main reason for why I chose an AEG), Miele is about the same). Bosch dishwashers are the no.1 brand of dishwasher sold in the UK, and it's easy to see why. If I wasn't too fussed about how the dishwasher stacks, and was going solely on reliablity, I would have bought a Bosch dishwasher. Of course being the pernickety so and so I am, I insisted on an AEG because of how the racks loaded and also the AEG had a couple extra features such as an Intensive cycle and a 3-in-1 option.

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Take care, happy dishwashing!!

Jon

BTW in case your interested here's a link to my new dishwasher.

 
I also have a Bosch dishwasher. Mine is about 3 years old and I find it does not dry as well as my kitchen aid. I routinely use the Power Scrub option because the water is hotter and seems to dry the dishes better.

I love the results and I don't think you'll find a quieter machine.
 
Jon,

Yes, that must be it! I have never seen a dishwasher with a salt compartment, though I have read that Mieles sold in the US have one. The Bosch dishwashers sold here do not have a water softener, thus no salt compartment.

Chachp,

On my Bosch, with the unit off, if you hold the left "cancel drain" button down and press the power button, a 1 or 0 will show in the display. Pressing the left "cancel drain" button will toggle between the 1 and 0. A 1 setting will heat the rinse water to a higher temperature, which will aid drying. Press the power button again to save the setting. Your model may work the same way, or have a similar setting.

Joe
 
Jon,

I forgot to add that American Bosch dishwashers have the sliding detergent dispenser. This is the first dishwasher I have seen that does not have a prewash detergent dispenser.

Joe
 
Joe,

The BSH manuals over here recommend pouring additional detergent directly onto the door for the pre wash cycle. On the first models with the sliding dispenser in the mid 90s, if I remember rightly they used to have a prewash compartment open when the flap was closed - i.e., underneath where the flap is when the main detergent compartment is open. However they blanked it out for some reason on the later versions, and now, as I mentioned before, they recommend putting prewash detergent on the door itself.

Take care,

Jon
 
Venus Veus Venus!!!! Tsk Tsk Tsk!!! I can't believe a member applianceville is such a flagrant violater of the dishwasher code. NO Pre-rinsing. Scrape off teh big chunks with a knife and put the stuff in. It's a great dishwasher. Hmm, TCOX6912 has the same model as yours. He loads it over the gills and stuff comes out perfect. He uses power scrub cycle a lot and also finds normal does a kick booty job too.
 
pre-rinsing

convincing someone not to pre-rinse is not one of the easiest things to do.....I pre-rinsed, until I got a Maytag machine in '98....won't ever pre-rinse again....
 
No pre-rinsing

When i got the Whirlpool in 1990 i took the manufacturers word and did nor pre rinse anything.Always got great results on the normal cycle and even the low energy cycle with dried on gunk.
The spraying action tends to be loud on this machine but not offensive.
 
I was in my local Sears tonight and they had the Bosch made Kenmore Elite dw running.I was impressed by how quiet this machine is.I opened the door and nearly got splashed,looks to be good cleaning action.Very little water use too.I think i like.
 

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