Bosch=Junk!

[sudsdudeshane]

2 years ago we bought a Bosch dishwasher from Southeast Steel.$1.000.00!! What a mistake that was!..On Thanksgiving day, it stopped working and will not pump any water into the machine.
Looks like now I will have a good excuse to get a new GE Profile or Kenmore Elite.

 

[appnut]

Shane, unfortunately, with electronics, this is a situation which isn't always avoidable. Electronic controls and circuit boards can also fail in the two brands you are desiring now. I'll tell you, another member I nkow here talked to me lasty night and their Bosch went dead in the middle of the cycle the night before. They're not throwing it out cuz it went dead, they're having it repaired. Do what you will, but you're simply throwing out a very good machine--throw-away-society. What a shame. I erally like modern dishwashers, especially Bosch, but electrnoics, or the lack thereof, is the main reason why I am hoping to find a 1995 or earier KitchenAid. Bob

 

[sudsdudeshane]

appnut

thanks for your reply..I don't plan on junking my Bosch. It's just very annoying when you have only had a dishwasher 2 years and it stops working! The dishwasher turns on,but no water at all pumps into it..Does anyone have any ideas,suggestions?
I have a feeling this is going to cost $$$ to fix <ugh>!

 

[DADoES]

Shane, the machine's pump is not involved in getting water into it. Household water pressure fills the dishwasher, the same way it runs out of the kitchen faucet into the sink.

If a few mins after starting a cycle, you open the door and there is water in the tub but it hasn't been sprayed up on the dishes, then the recirculation pump motor may be bad, or the electronics that control the motor.

If when you start a cycle, no water enters the machine at all, then it could be the water valve has gone bad (a relatively simple and inexpensive repair), or the electronics that control the water valve has failed.

 

[launderess]

Remember reading some where that electronic controls for dishwashers posed serious problems. The natural amount of moisture and heat generated by dishwashers can cause havoc unless the units are well designed. Moi? Give me mechanical controlled dishwashers any day.

L.

 

[DADoES]

Non-electronic dishwashers are getting scarce. Some brands no longer have anything mekkanickel, those that do often restrict it to low-end models, and remember that just because a machine has a rotary dial doesn't mean that it isn't electronic 'hind the scenes.

 

[launderess]

Well my Kenmore 18" (Frigidaire built), is all mechanical as one can hear all the clicks and clanks as the timer goes about it's business, with the machine doing what it is told.

Being as that may, yes today just because one sees a dial, does not mean the controls are mechanical. IIRC Speed Queen front loaders have a dial, but they are electronically controlled.

L.

 

[frigilux]

You have a baby Frigidaire-built DW, Launderess? I've used one of those (though this one was Frigidaire-branded) while staying with a friend and I was surprised how well it cleaned. The small size and tower drove me a little crazy, but it did a great job---no specks on glasses, dried oatmeal cleaned from bowls, etc. And dishes were bone dry at cycle's completion.

Is the 18" your daily driver?

 

[frigilux]

You have a baby Frigidaire-built DW, Launderess? I've used one of those (though this one was Frigidaire-branded) while staying with a friend and I was surprised how well it cleaned. The small size and tower drove me a little crazy, but it did a great job---no specks on glasses, dried oatmeal cleaned from bowls, etc. And dishes were bone dry at cycle's completion.

Is the 18" your daily driver?

 

[launderess]

Yes it tis, and has been so for better part of 15 or so years now with no problems (knock on wood).

Despite Frigidaire's poor repair ratings by CR, we needed an 18" DW and it had to be portable. At that time there were only the two models Frigidaire and the rebadged Kenmore (built by Frigidaire). Someone told us to look at the serial number on the plate inside the unit to find out who made the Kenmore, that is how we came to find out it was made by Frigidaire. Later found out like many compact appliances there is only a finite market, so usually only one vendor makes them and they are sold under various brand names. Much like portable washing machines. Neither Danby or Avanti were on the scene then, and rather prefered going with Sears/Kenmore.

Yes, the tower is maddening, but the unit does a decent enough job if one is careful about loading. We like ground flax seeds with porridge for breakfast, and sadly the bowls have to be rinsed otherwise bits of flax seed end up all over the place. Otherwise no problems, though the this dw is NOT one of the quietest units out there. One hears a constant swoooosh, swooosh, swoosh as the unit goes about it's business. Purges are equally noisy, in fact the only quiet part is during drying ! *LOL*

 

[exploder321]

My sister had one of these 18" dishwashers in a tralier she lived in for a year or so after she fled from Franics. It was a D&M unit (it was gold) I think.. It washed dishes great and never batted an eye.. An old lady had lived there prior and used it weekly as well.. It was a 1978 Model Trailor.. But about a month before she moved out, the thing started leaking like mad and the owner replaced it with a new Frigidaire which also worked quite well.. Now she lives in a new town house with boring builders model ge appliances. The dishwasher works well, but is very noisy. I plan on adding a waterheater blanket to it when i go down.

 

[re563]

SudsDudeShane:

I just check the warrenty of my Bosch and if you bought yours 2yrs ago, your still under warrenty. Yes, you'll have to pay for labor, but that's it. Check it out.

 

[appnut]

Well, I just got an email from our member whos Bosch died Fri. or Sat. night. Turns out, it was a loose wire under the machine.

 

[Brent-Aucoin]

I lucked out!!!

I was so lucky to find a KDS-18 that was never used about a month ago.
Everytime I use it, it smells new!!!
Best dishwasher I have ever owned! And I have owned, many!
Brent

 

[gocartwasher]

kitchen aid was a good unit

we had one simular to yours ,only needed a pump rebuild kit in 11 years was running good still

 

[gadgetgary]

Congrats Brent on your find...

The older KitchenAid technology was the best.

Good Luck!

 

[easy-spin]

I bought a Bosch dishwasher and it leaked (just enough to ruin the floor) since the day it was new. It was difficult to install because of the location of the connections. Dishes always came out wet as it had a poor drying cycle. You had to be double jointed to load and unload it as it was so close to the floor. The electronics failed within a week of the warranty expiration.

I paid over a thousand dollars for it and hated it from day one. It replaced a Kenmore that lasted 25 years.

The new electronics and pump housing would have cost in excess of four hundred dollars.

I replaced it after only two years use with a Jen-Air (Maytag in drag) which is the best new machine I have encountered.

The Bosch went to the junk pile.

Mike A.