British Twintub Washing Machines 1959 - 1990
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Just having a sort our of a pile of old ERT magazines and found a few adverts, Servis updated MK41 & the New Top Twin, both from 1969.
Cheers
Keith
Just having a sort our of a pile of old ERT magazines and found a few adverts, Servis updated MK41 & the New Top Twin, both from 1969.
Cheers
Keith
British Twintub Washing Machines 1959 - 1990
Thats a rare Hoover twinny indeed, anyone of you got pics of the back to see how / where the pipe comes out and also underneath, does it have the newer spin can pulley and weight like the 3301 ?
I do like these first of the new styles with the pipe out the back, heres the 3309..
Enquiring minds !!
Thats a rare Hoover twinny indeed, anyone of you got pics of the back to see how / where the pipe comes out and also underneath, does it have the newer spin can pulley and weight like the 3301 ?
I do like these first of the new styles with the pipe out the back, heres the 3309..
Enquiring minds !!
keymatic3203
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Fabulous compilation and thread Mike
And lots of great memories of repairing and using some of these machines together, and many more in the great restoration queue.
This is the best picture of the back of the 3304 i can find, I'm assuming the hose was perished and what you can see is the elongated hole the hose would come out through, just above where the pump is. Well you will if I've managed to include the photo!
This one has the light weight aluminium pulley and long spin can shaft as on the spinarinses and I think the lower spin speed too.
Mathew
And lots of great memories of repairing and using some of these machines together, and many more in the great restoration queue.
This is the best picture of the back of the 3304 i can find, I'm assuming the hose was perished and what you can see is the elongated hole the hose would come out through, just above where the pump is. Well you will if I've managed to include the photo!
This one has the light weight aluminium pulley and long spin can shaft as on the spinarinses and I think the lower spin speed too.
Mathew
keymatic3203
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Hi Austin
yours is like mine with the heater, these certainly lasted longer thanks to the plastic lid hinges, the 3301L I have with the cast alloy hinges has just rotted through the hinges and into the lid.
Mathew
yours is like mine with the heater, these certainly lasted longer thanks to the plastic lid hinges, the 3301L I have with the cast alloy hinges has just rotted through the hinges and into the lid.
Mathew
British Twintub Washing Machines 1959 - 1990
Excellent Servis and Philips adverts Keith, fun looking back into the ERT mags to see how much things have changed!!
Does it give a model number of the Philips Toptwin, never seen that model before ?
Excellent Servis and Philips adverts Keith, fun looking back into the ERT mags to see how much things have changed!!
Does it give a model number of the Philips Toptwin, never seen that model before ?
British Twintub Washing Machines 1959 - 1990
Cheers Mathew for the pics, I wasnt sure if it was a round hole with rubber ring like those converted spin a rinses for the drain hose, love the charcoal accents !! You are quite right about the metal v plastic hinges on the spinner lids,
when you think what ours was like before the Spa of Bob & Neil got their hands on it...
Cheers Mathew for the pics, I wasnt sure if it was a round hole with rubber ring like those converted spin a rinses for the drain hose, love the charcoal accents !! You are quite right about the metal v plastic hinges on the spinner lids,
when you think what ours was like before the Spa of Bob & Neil got their hands on it...
Morning Matthew,
Interesting your 3304 has the plastic hinges, my 3304e must have been an early model as it still has the alloy hinges/brackets like the 3301L.
Mike, i will check out the model number on the Top Twin and let you know.
Cheers
Keith
Interesting your 3304 has the plastic hinges, my 3304e must have been an early model as it still has the alloy hinges/brackets like the 3301L.
Mike, i will check out the model number on the Top Twin and let you know.
Cheers
Keith
British Twintub Washing Machines 1959 - 1990
Another British made twintub was the Burco 21, which we have on the restore list, this was one that Gary (Electron1100) managed to save from the tip, an agitator machine with solid spin can ,
much like Servis but has a pump port & control like the Hoovers..
Did any of you or family have one ?
Another British made twintub was the Burco 21, which we have on the restore list, this was one that Gary (Electron1100) managed to save from the tip, an agitator machine with solid spin can ,
much like Servis but has a pump port & control like the Hoovers..
Did any of you or family have one ?
keymatic3203
Well-known member
good to see those photos
of the burco Mike, it must be quite unusual to have a spin timer rather than a wash timer. Again as you've said, I don't remember people using the heaters, maybe by my time in the 70's the fuel price rises, people weren't into boiling as much, and as hot water was available from back boilers or immersion heaters, once the machine was out, most would just want to get on with the wash. I remember one lady telling me her routine was to come back from the shops, put the tank on, then fill the machine and do the wash. Perhaps we would have filled, added detergent and whites, set the heater and timer and return to continue the wash, better results and use less electric than heating a whole tank.
But back to the spin timer, did anyone actually run the spinner for 4 mins, again I remember most running until the last drops stopped pumping and get them on the line. Maybe in the wet weather things got a longer spin. but again I would think the wash timer would be more useful.
of the burco Mike, it must be quite unusual to have a spin timer rather than a wash timer. Again as you've said, I don't remember people using the heaters, maybe by my time in the 70's the fuel price rises, people weren't into boiling as much, and as hot water was available from back boilers or immersion heaters, once the machine was out, most would just want to get on with the wash. I remember one lady telling me her routine was to come back from the shops, put the tank on, then fill the machine and do the wash. Perhaps we would have filled, added detergent and whites, set the heater and timer and return to continue the wash, better results and use less electric than heating a whole tank.
But back to the spin timer, did anyone actually run the spinner for 4 mins, again I remember most running until the last drops stopped pumping and get them on the line. Maybe in the wet weather things got a longer spin. but again I would think the wash timer would be more useful.
keymatic3203
Well-known member
Keith
good to see those extra photos of your 3304 and that your hinges are still in good condition.
Have you given the frigidaire mastertwin much use, would love to see some more photos, and a video would be fabulous if possible.
Great too to see the adverts for the philips, what would you date the philips top twin in Mikes video as, I assumed late sixties- to very early seventies, but your advert for 69 implies the model with the full width console and drain arm had been superseded for the more basic design, I assume this would have had two drain hoses, the washer having a spring loaded ball valve on the end as both pumps ran with the wash motor, or at least the later 70's model I had years ago did. That would have reduced the manufacturing costs quite a bit, negating the need for the wash clutch/solinoid and drain arm/valve.
Mathew
good to see those extra photos of your 3304 and that your hinges are still in good condition.
Have you given the frigidaire mastertwin much use, would love to see some more photos, and a video would be fabulous if possible.
Great too to see the adverts for the philips, what would you date the philips top twin in Mikes video as, I assumed late sixties- to very early seventies, but your advert for 69 implies the model with the full width console and drain arm had been superseded for the more basic design, I assume this would have had two drain hoses, the washer having a spring loaded ball valve on the end as both pumps ran with the wash motor, or at least the later 70's model I had years ago did. That would have reduced the manufacturing costs quite a bit, negating the need for the wash clutch/solinoid and drain arm/valve.
Mathew
triumphdolomite
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Top Twin
Mathew
The advert I have for your Top Twin is in a 1967 magazine so it must have run from sometime around then to 1969. I wonder if it did have the ball valve on the wash hose, looking at the picture Keith has posted it looks like the suds return hole is still in the same place in the wash deck, I wonder if you just had to shove the wash hose in there and let it recirculate as the earlier machine in the Persil ad did. The spinner brake arm works the opposite way round too!
Ian
Mathew
The advert I have for your Top Twin is in a 1967 magazine so it must have run from sometime around then to 1969. I wonder if it did have the ball valve on the wash hose, looking at the picture Keith has posted it looks like the suds return hole is still in the same place in the wash deck, I wonder if you just had to shove the wash hose in there and let it recirculate as the earlier machine in the Persil ad did. The spinner brake arm works the opposite way round too!
Ian
@mathew
Your spot on its the same as the one I have, Its in perfect working order now and just in need of a respray it must have been stored with a Ivy bush
Also have a Burco 21 and its complete and believe it or not it works electrically but is in need of an upgrade as all pipes have perished, The wiring may need replacing too and when its done it too needs a respray but all in good time.
Hope you are keeping well?
Austin
Your spot on its the same as the one I have, Its in perfect working order now and just in need of a respray it must have been stored with a Ivy bush
Also have a Burco 21 and its complete and believe it or not it works electrically but is in need of an upgrade as all pipes have perished, The wiring may need replacing too and when its done it too needs a respray but all in good time.
Hope you are keeping well?
Austin
@mathew
A little pic of the Hoovermatic in question.
A little pic of the Hoovermatic in question.
Burco 21
Waiting for refurbishment ....
Waiting for refurbishment ....
A hotpoint 9404
Washes the best of all twin tubs IMHO due to the filter that catches all manner of crud...
Washes the best of all twin tubs IMHO due to the filter that catches all manner of crud...
@matthew, Austin & Ian,
Reference the newly styled Philips Top Twin model 3202 this was launched in 1969, as per the write up in the magazine. I think even in 1969 Philips still had the Top Twin De-Lux on offer as per the advert I originally posted.
A friend of mine has used one of the 3202 machines and said the wash emptying hose had a spring & ball set up to prevent emptying the wash tub as the wash pump ran all time.
Austin, be good to see some pic's of your 3202 if you have them to hand, also luv the Burco 21 - a few years ago someone was selling some spares for this machine which I managed to get, that is as close as I got (wash empty diverter valve, pump etc)to getting one of these machines.
Cheers
Keith
Reference the newly styled Philips Top Twin model 3202 this was launched in 1969, as per the write up in the magazine. I think even in 1969 Philips still had the Top Twin De-Lux on offer as per the advert I originally posted.
A friend of mine has used one of the 3202 machines and said the wash emptying hose had a spring & ball set up to prevent emptying the wash tub as the wash pump ran all time.
Austin, be good to see some pic's of your 3202 if you have them to hand, also luv the Burco 21 - a few years ago someone was selling some spares for this machine which I managed to get, that is as close as I got (wash empty diverter valve, pump etc)to getting one of these machines.
Cheers
Keith
Philips Toptwin Twintub Washing Machine 1968
Heres a video of the Philips Toptwin, having spent time with it and only ever seeing one in Trident Electrical Store as a kid with my nan when she bought a Frigidaire spinner, am loving this twinny, a vigorous wash action but certainly keep the clothes under water , active water style, and with the motor running all the time it switches the wash action on / off by solenoid. The pear shaped spin can really does settle the clothes for a superfast 3000rpm spin dry.
Take a look, ask a question, leave a comment, please tick for like..Cheers
Heres a video of the Philips Toptwin, having spent time with it and only ever seeing one in Trident Electrical Store as a kid with my nan when she bought a Frigidaire spinner, am loving this twinny, a vigorous wash action but certainly keep the clothes under water , active water style, and with the motor running all the time it switches the wash action on / off by solenoid. The pear shaped spin can really does settle the clothes for a superfast 3000rpm spin dry.
Take a look, ask a question, leave a comment, please tick for like..Cheers
alanlondon
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Philips Toptwin
Fascinating video Mike, very much enjoyed it. The clutch arrangement looks very similar to the Hoover Keymatic. Here’s some instructions albeit not exactly the same model as in your video.
Cheers Alan
Fascinating video Mike, very much enjoyed it. The clutch arrangement looks very similar to the Hoover Keymatic. Here’s some instructions albeit not exactly the same model as in your video.
Cheers Alan
