calling out all Edsel owners!
Dad & I welding Gwendolyn the wonder Edsel back together. Spring 1972
Dad & I welding Gwendolyn the wonder Edsel back together. Spring 1972
Calling ALL EDSEL Owners
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Edsel Owner's Club NY Chapter Binghamton NY 1972
Edsel Owner's Club NY Chapter Binghamton NY 1972
Gwendolyn
& Me by the Mohawk River, Charlie Smiths' garage. 1971
& Me by the Mohawk River, Charlie Smiths' garage. 1971
Edsel Video
I'm an Edsel lover. Never had one, and they're kind of expensive these days. I find it fascinating that collectors started shortly after production ceased. But it's disappointing about the survival rate. This isn't really a video, it's a collection of period promo pictures and styling studies. Anyone know this music? It's driving me crazy.
I'm an Edsel lover. Never had one, and they're kind of expensive these days. I find it fascinating that collectors started shortly after production ceased. But it's disappointing about the survival rate. This isn't really a video, it's a collection of period promo pictures and styling studies. Anyone know this music? It's driving me crazy.
danemodsandy
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I Take It...
...That Gwendolyn was/is a '58, but what model - a Ranger or a Pacer?
My guess is Pacer; she doesn't look as "strippo" as many Rangers did, and from what I can see, she's not the Mercury body used on Corsairs and Citations. A little hard to tell from the photos, though.
And most importantly of all, what's become of her?
...That Gwendolyn was/is a '58, but what model - a Ranger or a Pacer?
My guess is Pacer; she doesn't look as "strippo" as many Rangers did, and from what I can see, she's not the Mercury body used on Corsairs and Citations. A little hard to tell from the photos, though.
And most importantly of all, what's become of her?
danemodsandy
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Aha!
Just read in the bacon thread that Gwendolyn was a Corsair, which means the bigger Mercury body, not the Ford body used on Rangers and Pacers.
I hope she's leading a good life somewhere...
Just read in the bacon thread that Gwendolyn was a Corsair, which means the bigger Mercury body, not the Ford body used on Rangers and Pacers.
I hope she's leading a good life somewhere...
The link wasn't wanting to open for me. So is she a '58 or a '59? In the b&w pic above the two-tone with white top is a '58 but is that Gwen?
I could have had a '59 cheap back around 1980, but the engine was frozen and I just wasn't in a position to do anything about it. I sort of like the '58 better since the front end is even more delightfully hideous than the '59.
I could have had a '59 cheap back around 1980, but the engine was frozen and I just wasn't in a position to do anything about it. I sort of like the '58 better since the front end is even more delightfully hideous than the '59.
"Delightfully hideous" OMG LOL!
Ralph, the B&W '58 is a Pacer that was owned by a Farrand Browser back in 1971. My car didn't make it to any club events.
Gwendolyn got mostly restored and painted a nice Turquoise & White scallop. She eventually went to a collector of Pontiacs. I hope she is still driving around Schenectady today.
Ralph, the B&W '58 is a Pacer that was owned by a Farrand Browser back in 1971. My car didn't make it to any club events.
Gwendolyn got mostly restored and painted a nice Turquoise & White scallop. She eventually went to a collector of Pontiacs. I hope she is still driving around Schenectady today.
" I hope she is still driving around Schenectady today.
Or just driving around anywhere. I don't get off on cars so perfect that they have to be kept under a cheese bell.
I'm confident Gwen is in good hands wherever she is. And she sounds beautiful in that classic American Grafitti color combo.
Or just driving around anywhere. I don't get off on cars so perfect that they have to be kept under a cheese bell.
I'm confident Gwen is in good hands wherever she is. And she sounds beautiful in that classic American Grafitti color combo.
bugsyjones
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Oh the Edsel....
One car I WILL own in time.
I think the '58 is a delightful car and in no way ugly. We don't get there until '59 and '60.
I just love the features including the Teletouch controls. Exclusive to 58's.
Problem is, that there are next to none where I live. (That goes for any of the appliances I want as well.)
I've only seen two 58's in person. And quite a few years apart for that matter.
I WILL OWN THIS CAR!
~Tim
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One car I WILL own in time.
I think the '58 is a delightful car and in no way ugly. We don't get there until '59 and '60.
I just love the features including the Teletouch controls. Exclusive to 58's.
Problem is, that there are next to none where I live. (That goes for any of the appliances I want as well.)
I've only seen two 58's in person. And quite a few years apart for that matter.
I WILL OWN THIS CAR!
~Tim
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xraytech
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I love Edsels, especially the 58 Bermuda wagon with the boomerang tail lights
Terrific link Tim
what a great commercial!
I love the all new E-400 and E-475 engines. My Gwendolyn did have power, that 475 put out 345 HP I think and with a 4 barrel Holley and axle ratio of 1:2.9 it moved fast for 5,000 pounds!
what a great commercial!
I love the all new E-400 and E-475 engines. My Gwendolyn did have power, that 475 put out 345 HP I think and with a 4 barrel Holley and axle ratio of 1:2.9 it moved fast for 5,000 pounds!
I want one also, even a BOL model, as long as it has Teletouch. A schoolmates family had a grey and yellow '58, I saw a blue '58 two door with a '57 Tbird transmission, a white '58 four door hardtop, a couple of '59s around here, one a wagon, but never any at the car shows. Survivors are around 3,500 total, I don't know if that means running and registered or not. Considering the clubs started forming around 1968, that doesn't seem like very many.
danemodsandy
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Tim:
Just a little heads-up:
Edsels with Teletouch are expensive, expensive cars to own, so don't try doing one on the cheap. The difficulty is that Teletouch was an electronic/vacuum hybrid system, as opposed to the mechanical-linkage Chrysler system seen in that company's products of the same vintage. Parts of the system were mounted in areas vulnerable to dirt and moisture, and there is a diaphragm that goes bad as well. Don't let any of this keep you from owning an Edsel, just know that you'll need some fairly deep pockets if you ever have one with Teletouch issues.
Just a little heads-up:
Edsels with Teletouch are expensive, expensive cars to own, so don't try doing one on the cheap. The difficulty is that Teletouch was an electronic/vacuum hybrid system, as opposed to the mechanical-linkage Chrysler system seen in that company's products of the same vintage. Parts of the system were mounted in areas vulnerable to dirt and moisture, and there is a diaphragm that goes bad as well. Don't let any of this keep you from owning an Edsel, just know that you'll need some fairly deep pockets if you ever have one with Teletouch issues.
Yes
its the little Teletouch motor that was mounted outboard the transmission. They sealed it with rubber cement which was not salt proof! But today we know more, the same system was used on the Mercury Turnpike cruiser so always search for parts under Mercury. Even all the engine parts are interchangeable with the then current Mercury & Lincoln engines.
its the little Teletouch motor that was mounted outboard the transmission. They sealed it with rubber cement which was not salt proof! But today we know more, the same system was used on the Mercury Turnpike cruiser so always search for parts under Mercury. Even all the engine parts are interchangeable with the then current Mercury & Lincoln engines.
danemodsandy
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Alan:
Survival rate on Edsels is supposedly about six thousand, so maybe there's hope for you to have one. If I had enough disposable income to be fooling with gadget-laden late-Fifties cars, I would love to own a '58 Citation four-door hardtop with Teletouch and factory air. Those were a poor man's Lincoln!
Did you know that Kim Novak was Ford's celebrity spokesperson for Edsel? '58 was the height of her box-office popularity, so choosing her should have had more effect on sales than it did. There were some real problems once people went into showrooms and actually looked at Edsels; the two lower series - Ranger and Pacer - looked way too much like Fords, at a higher price. And the upper two series - Corsair and Citation - could get pretty expensive. A Citation in full fig could cost as much as a Buick, without the guarantee of resale values inherent in a Buick purchase.
Too bad; it was quite a car.
Survival rate on Edsels is supposedly about six thousand, so maybe there's hope for you to have one. If I had enough disposable income to be fooling with gadget-laden late-Fifties cars, I would love to own a '58 Citation four-door hardtop with Teletouch and factory air. Those were a poor man's Lincoln!
Did you know that Kim Novak was Ford's celebrity spokesperson for Edsel? '58 was the height of her box-office popularity, so choosing her should have had more effect on sales than it did. There were some real problems once people went into showrooms and actually looked at Edsels; the two lower series - Ranger and Pacer - looked way too much like Fords, at a higher price. And the upper two series - Corsair and Citation - could get pretty expensive. A Citation in full fig could cost as much as a Buick, without the guarantee of resale values inherent in a Buick purchase.
Too bad; it was quite a car.
Thanks Sandy
That sounds more like it, don't know where I came up with the lower figure. I think I heard about Kim Novak, maybe on one of the Edsel sites. My roommate's father bought a '58 Citation 4dr hardtop demonstrator and from what I gather, had it until 1963, when it died on a vacation. They loved that car.
I believe Chrysler was the most successful in the pushbutton transmission department. Lincoln in '58 was to have had pusbuttons, but the idea was shelved quickly. I think Edsel was actually available with a stick operated automatic, for those who were thrown off by those fancy buttons! Don't quote me. Seems also, that the last real Packard, offered push buttons and lever operated Ultramatic, just for the record. Anyone know for sure, let me know.
That sounds more like it, don't know where I came up with the lower figure. I think I heard about Kim Novak, maybe on one of the Edsel sites. My roommate's father bought a '58 Citation 4dr hardtop demonstrator and from what I gather, had it until 1963, when it died on a vacation. They loved that car.
I believe Chrysler was the most successful in the pushbutton transmission department. Lincoln in '58 was to have had pusbuttons, but the idea was shelved quickly. I think Edsel was actually available with a stick operated automatic, for those who were thrown off by those fancy buttons! Don't quote me. Seems also, that the last real Packard, offered push buttons and lever operated Ultramatic, just for the record. Anyone know for sure, let me know.
58limited
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112561: Edsel Transmissions for 1958
The column shift automatic wasn't made for long:
Small Series (Pacer, Ranger, wagons)
Standard Equipment: 3-speed Manual
Optional: 3-speed Manual with Borg-Warner T-85 Overdrive
Optional: Column Shift Automatic (Discontinued on January 2, 1958)
Optional: Teletouch Automatic
Large Series (Corsair, Citation)
Standard equipment: Teletouch Automatic
There is someone about 50 miles from me who owns a nice turquoise Citation convertible with all the bells and whistles.
The column shift automatic wasn't made for long:
Small Series (Pacer, Ranger, wagons)
Standard Equipment: 3-speed Manual
Optional: 3-speed Manual with Borg-Warner T-85 Overdrive
Optional: Column Shift Automatic (Discontinued on January 2, 1958)
Optional: Teletouch Automatic
Large Series (Corsair, Citation)
Standard equipment: Teletouch Automatic
There is someone about 50 miles from me who owns a nice turquoise Citation convertible with all the bells and whistles.
58limited
Thanks for the confirmation and the other data.
And by now, I'm sure you know there is a 1:18 scale model of your '58 Limited. I love those cars too.
Thanks for the confirmation and the other data.
And by now, I'm sure you know there is a 1:18 scale model of your '58 Limited. I love those cars too.
