Photo was taken about 1944, but there is not enough of the car showing for me to figure it’s make/model.
Anyone know?
Sorry it’s sideways
Anyone know?
Sorry it’s sideways
Can anyone identify this Pre war convertible car
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1941 Dodge looks close?
I Googled a hunch, and came up with this:
I Googled a hunch, and came up with this:
warmsecondrinse
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My hunch is 1941 or 42 Hudson. The pics of '41 and 42 showed multiple styles of chrome strips along the hood. And I swear some of the pics are the same whichever year you look at
https://external-content.duckduckgo..._Hudson.JPG/1200px-1941_Hudson.JPG&f=1&nofb=1
Now I'm curious.....
Jim
https://external-content.duckduckgo..._Hudson.JPG/1200px-1941_Hudson.JPG&f=1&nofb=1
https://external-content.duckduckgo..._Hudson.JPG/1200px-1941_Hudson.JPG&f=1&nofb=1
Now I'm curious.....
Jim
https://external-content.duckduckgo..._Hudson.JPG/1200px-1941_Hudson.JPG&f=1&nofb=1
I think its the 41’ Dodge too. Look at the the parking light next to the headlight bezel, it matches the design on the photo of the 41’ Dodge, the hub caps look the same too.
Eddie
Eddie
I it dose
look like the Dodge because of the headlight.
look like the Dodge because of the headlight.
Here a better photo
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Would the radio aerial be an after market installation then? It's on the wrong side per the pic in reply #1.
Also, what's in front of the headlight in the original picture? Is something leaning against the grille or is it just the camera angle?
Also, what's in front of the headlight in the original picture? Is something leaning against the grille or is it just the camera angle?
Note that the windshield wipers sweep towards the center of the divided windshield, a Chrysler Corp. trademark at the time, not to the outside as on the Hudson.
Looks like a Dodge but
Im not seeing the rear window on that Dodge, it looks like the roof mechanism takes up that space. The headlamp looks like a dead ringer to the Dodge.
The hub caps look like Buick to me. Interesting
Im not seeing the rear window on that Dodge, it looks like the roof mechanism takes up that space. The headlamp looks like a dead ringer to the Dodge.
The hub caps look like Buick to me. Interesting
"Im not seeing the rear window on that Dodge"
That little window is visible in reply #1.
That little window is visible in reply #1.
Try checking some other years too. I'm not a vintage Dodge guy, I just remembered seeing that headlight detail in a restoration thread years ago on an automotive forum, and 1941 happened to be the one that came up in a search. (I have no idea when that body style started or ended, or what trim levels looked that way...)
Other Model Years
I thought the same thing, considering that styles didn't change much, if at all, once the war started. It appears that Dodge had already tooled up and had produced the 1942 models before auto assembly lines were switched up for the war effort, because the headlight treatments and front grilles were different from the '41s.
I didn't bother to check further, but would guess that the '42 styling remained basically unchanged for a while after the war ended. It took Ford until 1949 to come up with a radically new body style, and that seemed to be the situation with other manufacturers as well. 1948 was the last year for the bulky pre-war styling among most auto makers.
I thought the same thing, considering that styles didn't change much, if at all, once the war started. It appears that Dodge had already tooled up and had produced the 1942 models before auto assembly lines were switched up for the war effort, because the headlight treatments and front grilles were different from the '41s.
I didn't bother to check further, but would guess that the '42 styling remained basically unchanged for a while after the war ended. It took Ford until 1949 to come up with a radically new body style, and that seemed to be the situation with other manufacturers as well. 1948 was the last year for the bulky pre-war styling among most auto makers.
Ralph,
Most cars maintained their 42’ designs when production resumed in 46’, with minor changes thru 48’. In 49’ most of the manufactures came out with new designs. By the time the war was over in late 45’ people were just happy to be able to buy a new 46’ model and weren’t concerned much about innovation and body style changes.
Eddie
Most cars maintained their 42’ designs when production resumed in 46’, with minor changes thru 48’. In 49’ most of the manufactures came out with new designs. By the time the war was over in late 45’ people were just happy to be able to buy a new 46’ model and weren’t concerned much about innovation and body style changes.
Eddie
appliguy
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1948 was the last year for the bulky pre-war styling
No it was not!. First off Chrysler Corp continued making their 1948 cars until the true 1949 models came out in January/February 1949 and those cars were known as the first series '49s while the true 1949 models were sold as second series 49's. GM did that 20 years later with the 1970 Camaro and Firebird, the first half of the 1970 model year being the old 1967-69 design with the new 1970 model debuting in February 1970. Buick also continued the 1948 body for the 1949 Buick Special until the new Special was introduced late in the 1949 model year as an early 1950 model. PATRICK COFFEY
No it was not!. First off Chrysler Corp continued making their 1948 cars until the true 1949 models came out in January/February 1949 and those cars were known as the first series '49s while the true 1949 models were sold as second series 49's. GM did that 20 years later with the 1970 Camaro and Firebird, the first half of the 1970 model year being the old 1967-69 design with the new 1970 model debuting in February 1970. Buick also continued the 1948 body for the 1949 Buick Special until the new Special was introduced late in the 1949 model year as an early 1950 model. PATRICK COFFEY
Could it
Possibly be a 41 Chrysler ?
Possibly be a 41 Chrysler ?
We're down to splitting hairs now. I know GM sort of phased in their new styles, none of which were as radical as Ford's (I actually prefer the '42-'48 Lincoln styling over the '49-'51s), but except for the stray early birds like Studebaker, for example, the big changes came in 1949.
Back when my mom was still single, she wanted a new car. The '48 models were still on the market and she wanted a Ford. Her friends told her to wait until '49 when the new style would be available, but she didn't want to. I remember that big green '48 club coupe being parked in my grandparents' garage when we'd go back to Chicagoland to visit them. They had it until 1967 or so. My mom had left it behind after she married my Dad in '49. He had just purchased a gunmetal blue '49 Ford, so she ended up with a '49 after all.
Stan -- the headlight bezels don't look the same on the '41 Chrysler.
Back when my mom was still single, she wanted a new car. The '48 models were still on the market and she wanted a Ford. Her friends told her to wait until '49 when the new style would be available, but she didn't want to. I remember that big green '48 club coupe being parked in my grandparents' garage when we'd go back to Chicagoland to visit them. They had it until 1967 or so. My mom had left it behind after she married my Dad in '49. He had just purchased a gunmetal blue '49 Ford, so she ended up with a '49 after all.
Stan -- the headlight bezels don't look the same on the '41 Chrysler.
Stan
the car in your photos is definitely a 41’ Dodge. The headlight bezel with the parking light is a dead give away. The 41’ Chrysler headlight bezel doesn't have this detail.
The antenna is an after market add on. Many buyers back then and even into the early 60’s would make their order without the radio to save money, and have one installed later on. Or maybe the factory antenna got broken off and this after market antenna was an easier and less expensive repair. My parents bought a few cars that I can recall without a radio and added it later on.
Eddie
the car in your photos is definitely a 41’ Dodge. The headlight bezel with the parking light is a dead give away. The 41’ Chrysler headlight bezel doesn't have this detail.
The antenna is an after market add on. Many buyers back then and even into the early 60’s would make their order without the radio to save money, and have one installed later on. Or maybe the factory antenna got broken off and this after market antenna was an easier and less expensive repair. My parents bought a few cars that I can recall without a radio and added it later on.
Eddie
Eddie, I like the aftermarket aerial on Stan's original picture. That's what I'd like to put on my '50 GMC if I can find one. The original radio has been sitting for decades since I had it recapped by a guy in Santa Rosa. Just not real high on my list of priorities.
I agree with you that factory radios were likely an expensive option in 1941, if they were even an option at all on some models.
Also, I checked images for the '41 Plymouth and De Soto. They had the same headlight bezel as the Chrysler, so the Dodge bezel was apparently unique to that make.
I agree with you that factory radios were likely an expensive option in 1941, if they were even an option at all on some models.
Also, I checked images for the '41 Plymouth and De Soto. They had the same headlight bezel as the Chrysler, so the Dodge bezel was apparently unique to that make.
The one
With the two piece is my mom.
I remember her saying it was big car.
The car belongs to the short girl with the dark hair. (Ruby)
My mom only stood 5’2. Ruby is obviously shorter.
Mom said they installed wooden blocks to the petals so Ruby could reach them.
This leads me to believe it was possibly a bigger car than a dodge?
Not sure how much bigger a Chrysler was back then vs a Dodge back then ??
All the girls in the pics have passed..so can’t ask .
With the two piece is my mom.
I remember her saying it was big car.
The car belongs to the short girl with the dark hair. (Ruby)
My mom only stood 5’2. Ruby is obviously shorter.
Mom said they installed wooden blocks to the petals so Ruby could reach them.
This leads me to believe it was possibly a bigger car than a dodge?
Not sure how much bigger a Chrysler was back then vs a Dodge back then ??
All the girls in the pics have passed..so can’t ask .
Stan that 41’ Dodge was a big car. My Mom was 4’9” and my Dad had to have blocks attached to the clutch and brake pedals for her too. She would have the seat pushed forward as far as it would go and still need to have a pillow behind her. When I was born in 51’ they had a 42’ Chevrolet that Mom loved. My Dad was a car nut, always buying something different. Shortly after I was born he traded the 42’ Chevrolet for a 47’ Cadillac convertible with hydra matic`, this was pre power steering days, Mom said it was like driving a GD truck, hated it and wanted the 42’ Chevy back. Here’s a photo of me on the fender of the 47’ Cadillac with Mom holding me.
Eddie
Eddie
Steering Big Cars
My mom had the same complaint about our '51 Lincoln Cosmopolitan's lack of power steering. She told the story many times of battling to get that car up and over the twists and turns of Hecker Pass, AKA SR 152 through the Santa Cruz mountains between Gilroy and Watsonville.
The strange thing is, the '50 GMC 100 steers like a dream to this day. My dad stated that there was a saying, "If it steers like a truck, it's not a GMC."
And Stan, if it will make you feel better, then sure, hell, why not -- it's a '41 Chrysler. It's probably been rein-car-nated at least a few times by now anyway.
My mom had the same complaint about our '51 Lincoln Cosmopolitan's lack of power steering. She told the story many times of battling to get that car up and over the twists and turns of Hecker Pass, AKA SR 152 through the Santa Cruz mountains between Gilroy and Watsonville.
The strange thing is, the '50 GMC 100 steers like a dream to this day. My dad stated that there was a saying, "If it steers like a truck, it's not a GMC."
And Stan, if it will make you feel better, then sure, hell, why not -- it's a '41 Chrysler. It's probably been rein-car-nated at least a few times by now anyway.
It's a lovely car
regardless of what kind.
The pictures of the young ladies remind me of some of the ones I have that were my parents.
Eddie, that's a cute pic of you on the car.
regardless of what kind.
The pictures of the young ladies remind me of some of the ones I have that were my parents.
Eddie, that's a cute pic of you on the car.
The more ore I look
Now with iPad instead of my phone..
I guess y'll are right it's a 41 Dodge!
For some reason at first.. I thought it had to be some kind of larger car.
I have a 50 Plymouth and by the pics of this 41 Dodge it look considerably larger than the 50 Plymouth.
The Plymouth steers easy as long as the wheels are turning, not so much at a stand still.
@eddie two of those gals (the tall one and the short one) were hairdressers.
Now with iPad instead of my phone..
I guess y'll are right it's a 41 Dodge!
For some reason at first.. I thought it had to be some kind of larger car.
I have a 50 Plymouth and by the pics of this 41 Dodge it look considerably larger than the 50 Plymouth.
The Plymouth steers easy as long as the wheels are turning, not so much at a stand still.
@eddie two of those gals (the tall one and the short one) were hairdressers.
Stan
did you ever get to speak with these hairdresser friends of your Mom about what the biz was like in the 40’s? I recall when I was in beauty college one of my instructors, Mrs, Bremer telling us about how they colored hair and gave machine waves in the 40’s. It was quite interesting.
All those cars for me the 40’s were pretty big, and when I was little they were already considered to be old cars. Everyone wanted the “new” 50’s models. My grandma had a 46’ Dodge 4 dr sedan that I can remember riding in. It was so huge that I could sit on the floor of the backseat and color my coloring book on the floor with my cousin Helen. The car was blue and the upholstery was a red plaid cloth with leatherette trim.
Eddie
did you ever get to speak with these hairdresser friends of your Mom about what the biz was like in the 40’s? I recall when I was in beauty college one of my instructors, Mrs, Bremer telling us about how they colored hair and gave machine waves in the 40’s. It was quite interesting.
All those cars for me the 40’s were pretty big, and when I was little they were already considered to be old cars. Everyone wanted the “new” 50’s models. My grandma had a 46’ Dodge 4 dr sedan that I can remember riding in. It was so huge that I could sit on the floor of the backseat and color my coloring book on the floor with my cousin Helen. The car was blue and the upholstery was a red plaid cloth with leatherette trim.
Eddie
appliguy
Well-known member
In reply to # 16
I was not splitting hairs, in actuality I misread your statement or should I say I missed the last part of it somehow, sometimes my eyes get ahead of my brain when I read and I miss things that are on the page I am reading and this was one of those times.....PATRICK COFFEY
I was not splitting hairs, in actuality I misread your statement or should I say I missed the last part of it somehow, sometimes my eyes get ahead of my brain when I read and I miss things that are on the page I am reading and this was one of those times.....PATRICK COFFEY
Eddie
The two girls worked for my great aunt who owned the shop!
Yes I spoke to all of them..mostly my aunt of corse. My aunts perm machine is in my attic now,
along with some pieces left over from the “Machine less” waves that came out after machine waves, and were used alot during the time these car photos were taken.
I meet these two ladies when they where old and showed up at my aunts funeral.
They all had remained life long friends.
I still have her dryers that are pre war..my aunt bought from a male hairdresser that enlisted after Pearl Harbor.
I’ll have to email you sometime and tell the hairdressing stores.
This car topic came up because a family member called me asking about family history and I looked at the photo album to share a pic.. I’d always wondered about that car..and figured y’all wound figure it out.
Theres more pics of cars in varies photos that I don’t know what they are either so I may start sharing more, as there’s interest here in cars.
The two girls worked for my great aunt who owned the shop!
Yes I spoke to all of them..mostly my aunt of corse. My aunts perm machine is in my attic now,
along with some pieces left over from the “Machine less” waves that came out after machine waves, and were used alot during the time these car photos were taken.
I meet these two ladies when they where old and showed up at my aunts funeral.
They all had remained life long friends.
I still have her dryers that are pre war..my aunt bought from a male hairdresser that enlisted after Pearl Harbor.
I’ll have to email you sometime and tell the hairdressing stores.
This car topic came up because a family member called me asking about family history and I looked at the photo album to share a pic.. I’d always wondered about that car..and figured y’all wound figure it out.
Theres more pics of cars in varies photos that I don’t know what they are either so I may start sharing more, as there’s interest here in cars.
Thanks Stan
that would be great, we can kibitz!
BTW, that 46’ Dodge my grandma had she bought as soon as the new cars became available in 46’. She got it to drive from Richmond, Calif. to Springfield, Missouri to see her mother whom she hadn’t seen since she married grandpa in 1922.
She took my Aunt Agnes and Uncle Joe who were 17 and 14 respectively. Grandma was subject to migraines, which she called “sick headaches” and in those days they gave injections of morphine for the pain and the doctor had given her a supply for the trip, along with a syringe.
When a spell came over her they pulled over on route 66, Agnes would give her the injection and grandma would crash on the back seat while Agnes rode shotgun and 14 yr old Joe took the wheel, even though he wasn’t supposed to be driving. They made it to Springfield, Mo. in one piece nevertheless.
Eddie
that would be great, we can kibitz!
BTW, that 46’ Dodge my grandma had she bought as soon as the new cars became available in 46’. She got it to drive from Richmond, Calif. to Springfield, Missouri to see her mother whom she hadn’t seen since she married grandpa in 1922.
She took my Aunt Agnes and Uncle Joe who were 17 and 14 respectively. Grandma was subject to migraines, which she called “sick headaches” and in those days they gave injections of morphine for the pain and the doctor had given her a supply for the trip, along with a syringe.
When a spell came over her they pulled over on route 66, Agnes would give her the injection and grandma would crash on the back seat while Agnes rode shotgun and 14 yr old Joe took the wheel, even though he wasn’t supposed to be driving. They made it to Springfield, Mo. in one piece nevertheless.
Eddie
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