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I am visiting relatives in the United States this Christmas vacation. Recently, I had the opportunity to observe the difference between the nearby cities of Cheyenne and Ft. Collins.
Two weeks ago, a fairly heavy snow storm covered the sidewalks of my severely handicapped parent's home in Fort Collins. Not a problem, a very pleasant neighbor helped me to clear the public sidewalks in front of several homes before the school kids were out and about on their ways to school.
We had only just finished the job when the City came by and swept the snow back up onto the sidewalk. While we were busy undoing the damage, we were accosted by an arrogant, abrasive official who informed us that it was a violation of City regulations to return the snow to the street which the city had only just swept onto the sidewalks. Cease and desist, etc. or there would be fines including jail time!
Obviously, we obeyed the laws.
This morning, visiting a cousin in Cheyenne, I had the opportunity to sweep the walks. Again, a neighbor helped. Once again, a city official - a policeman - stopped by. This time, not to threaten and bully, but to say "Thank you!"

I realize that it is more pleasant on a nasty, cold, snowy and windy morning to harass innocent people shoveling their walks then it is to do the real work for which city employees are paid - such as assisting stranded motorists, clearing intersections and all those other essential tasks. Still, the difference between the two cities will remain in my mind after this vacation. One encourages residents and guests to participate in civil order. The other threatens and punishes.

I'd blame this on a lack of Christmas cheer, but my relatives inform me that that, too, has been banned in Fort Collins, so presumably this city official was merely spreading the City's version of the 'holiday' spirit.
 
tertiary- from Latin/Spanish tercero *third*

My mother lives at the "crotch" of where a major and minor street inersect in an "X" pattern in Queens in NYC. And yes DSNY does a great job plowing. Firstly the main road is plowed and when all else is done, the secondry and tertiary roads are done. Problem is she has to shovel from her driveway to the sidewalk through the "MINOR" secondary/tertitary road to get to the open main road. So every time the roads are replowed, therby undoing her work she re-shovels. No one curses anyone out.

G-d Bless DSNY.

P.S I live on a corner property with TWO sets of sidewalks. Next place will be a condo with snow removal service, or at least not a corner. Ideally, will find one with no sidewalks.

I was flirting with the idea of electric sidewalk de-icers.
But the fear is the energy usage is fircely expensive. Still, such things are IMHO necessary for steps. (Homes in my are tend to be half-a-story up off the ground) Fossil-fueled hot-water loops are also avaialble.



http://www.warmzone.com/SnowMelting.asp
 
~Still, the difference between the two cities will remain in my mind after this vacation.

Methinks this reflects more on the two individuals rather than the cities as a whole.
 
wow......

I live in the area and find myself often visiting Denver. My expierence is exaclty the opposite. I cant get through Cheyenne fast enough and I useaully stay in Fort Collins coz I like it and the friendliness of the people better than anywhere else I have found around Denver.

Just a thought.......could it be the idiot in Fort Collins was just one bad apple amongst a bushell of good? I think its sad to dismiss a whole town over one representative..........

Here in my own area weve got the good and the bad, mostly good thank God but there are still some people out there.....

I lived in Wisconsin ten years ago and hated the whole place and almost everyone in it, couldnt wait to get back (my brother is there) THen a few years ago I was back for the summer and I met up with a band and formed some of the most solid friendships of my life.All with Wisconsinites!!! who would have guessed?

So all in all my bud I think you are short changing yourself to dispell a whole region over one person and one instance after all Cheyenne could have hired that guy just as esily as Fort Collins.
 
Good point

I guess I should mention that, although I am German, I grew up on the front range - lived in Fort Collins and in Larimer County from 1967 to 1980.
So when I draw the comparison between Cheyenne and Fort Collins, it is not that of a tourist who had one bad experience and one good experience, but that of someone who spent their early childhood right through their first college degree in 'The Fort' and, next door, in Cheyenne.

Fort Collins was the city mentioned in another thread here (not mine) a few weeks ago because the county sheriff got into a fight with the city council because they forbade any displays or recognition of Christmas. He went ahead and put up a tree on county property.

And Fort Collins is the city which has jail time for such first offenses as walking your dog in some areas of the city (they are not labeled as forbidden, you are expected to know that).
Letting your grass grow higher than the city permits by one-inch.
Parking your car on the lawn in front of your house, even if only to back another car out of the driveway which it had blocked...
Burning wood in a fireplace if you don't have a catalytic converter and/or the smoke has a density of 20% or greater (that one gets you six months and $5,000).
And, not shoveling your sidewalk immediately when it snows. Last year, during the worst snow storms of the last 150 years, the city sent out several violation notices...

Which, along with the draconian dog laws and chimney laws and grass height laws were all set aside, yet again, by the city attorney's office which is tired of losing in front of the courts...which are far more reasonable.

Sure, lots of friendly people in Fort Collins. But the city government is straight out of a guidebook on how not to govern.

What's not to like about Cheyenne, by the way? Maybe I see the good points because, growing up around the corner I know about them, but, gosh - there is a lot to do here.
 
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