aquacycle
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Love the cameo by the cat
she has to have her moment of fame, the little madam!
she has to have her moment of fame, the little madam!
Clean Rinsing Detergents
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OBA's
Hi PaulC,
You maybe right, I had only heard they were starting to take them out. Another thread mentioned Ariel had took them out though.
I also have a bottle of the Daz Liquid "flower power violet blossom" something or other - the purple one anyway
and this doesn't list OBA's in the ingredients.
Thanks
Hi PaulC,
You maybe right, I had only heard they were starting to take them out. Another thread mentioned Ariel had took them out though.
I also have a bottle of the Daz Liquid "flower power violet blossom" something or other - the purple one anyway
and this doesn't list OBA's in the ingredients.Thanks
OBA's
On another thought though, IF they're taking out OBA's from liquids, what would then be the difference between normal "green" liquid and colour "purple" liquid? For as far as I knew, this was the only difference between normal and colour care laundry liquids.
I will have a look on ingredients when I'm in Tesco tonight.
On another thought though, IF they're taking out OBA's from liquids, what would then be the difference between normal "green" liquid and colour "purple" liquid? For as far as I knew, this was the only difference between normal and colour care laundry liquids.
I will have a look on ingredients when I'm in Tesco tonight.
spoodles
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OBAs are in Ariel Colour Pods, no idea why. Ariel Colour Gel had OBAs when it first launched, then they removed them.
OBA's Ariel Colour Pods
Interesting, so that makes me think even more; why the need for a separate colour version? If they are going to put OBA's in the colour version.
I have normal Persil bio liquid and Persil colour liquid at moment, and the difference is that the colour doesn't have OBA's.
Interesting, so that makes me think even more; why the need for a separate colour version? If they are going to put OBA's in the colour version.
I have normal Persil bio liquid and Persil colour liquid at moment, and the difference is that the colour doesn't have OBA's.
liberatordeluxe
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Hi Liamy1 yes that video is an exact replica what has been happening in my machine.
I just ignore the detergent dose now til I only see a few bubbles. I physically CAN NOT use the recommended dose even for hard water because they are just too foamy so it is the detergents that are the problem not really the machine although I think I could do with more water on rinsing.
Currently there are no true low sudsing detergents but I keep nagging Ariel to make one but they don't listen to consumers as usual.
Modern detergents are CRAP!
I just ignore the detergent dose now til I only see a few bubbles. I physically CAN NOT use the recommended dose even for hard water because they are just too foamy so it is the detergents that are the problem not really the machine although I think I could do with more water on rinsing.
Currently there are no true low sudsing detergents but I keep nagging Ariel to make one but they don't listen to consumers as usual.
Modern detergents are CRAP!
paulc
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More water
is NOT necessarily beneficial for rinsing. My washer creates a lot of foam on high level rinses that have short interim spins. The low level cotton wash rinses have next to no suds as my machine does long interim spins.
I whole heartedly disagree that modern detergents are crap, ok we have seen a deterioration in some brands performance however, we now have better performing enzymes and oxygen bleaches than we have had in the past, "big box" powders have now been concentrated so far as we now have dosing instructions not that far removed from the "compact" powders we had in the late 80's/early 90's.
Nostalgia is great but not when it comes with rose tinted spectacles.
is NOT necessarily beneficial for rinsing. My washer creates a lot of foam on high level rinses that have short interim spins. The low level cotton wash rinses have next to no suds as my machine does long interim spins.
I whole heartedly disagree that modern detergents are crap, ok we have seen a deterioration in some brands performance however, we now have better performing enzymes and oxygen bleaches than we have had in the past, "big box" powders have now been concentrated so far as we now have dosing instructions not that far removed from the "compact" powders we had in the late 80's/early 90's.
Nostalgia is great but not when it comes with rose tinted spectacles.
liberatordeluxe
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@ PaulC sorry but I don't agree with anything you have said regarding to rinsing or about modern detergents. Nothing personal but just difference of opinion. Am speaking of personal experience regarding rinsing so I do know what I am talking about!
The only person I actually agree with on here is Laundress. Maybe I am on the wrong forum.
I don't like modern washing machines or modern detergents, perhaps I should of lived in a different century lol
Give me a 80's front loader anyday compared to the rubbish of today.
The only person I actually agree with on here is Laundress. Maybe I am on the wrong forum.
I don't like modern washing machines or modern detergents, perhaps I should of lived in a different century lol
Give me a 80's front loader anyday compared to the rubbish of today.
Opinions...
When you have used a variety of weshers as much as Paul C has and many of us on here then perhaps you may become more wisened oh wise one!!
Shallow rinses prove very effective as the likes of Asko laundry provide, up to 7 shallow rinses can be effective, along with interim spins, such as the likes of Miele, Asko and V-Zug which spins for 4 mins a rinse!!
I always remember my mum using the Servis MK2 twinny for 16 years and rinsing in the sink, always a shallow amount of water and changed as per!!
If theres too much sudz, then theres too much powder !!
When you have used a variety of weshers as much as Paul C has and many of us on here then perhaps you may become more wisened oh wise one!!
Shallow rinses prove very effective as the likes of Asko laundry provide, up to 7 shallow rinses can be effective, along with interim spins, such as the likes of Miele, Asko and V-Zug which spins for 4 mins a rinse!!
I always remember my mum using the Servis MK2 twinny for 16 years and rinsing in the sink, always a shallow amount of water and changed as per!!
If theres too much sudz, then theres too much powder !!
aquacycle
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Give me a 80's front loader anyday compared to the rubb
I think that's the most ridiculous thing I've read in this thread, and that's saying something.
There are some fantastic machines being produced today. Just because Hoover and Hotpoint aren't what they used to be, doesn't make everything else bad. Look at Beko, who have gone from strength to strength in the last few years and are now widely regarded as the best of the budget range. Indesit have never been known for producting particularly good machines. Miele, BSH Group (Bosch, Siemens, Neff) and Electrolux Group (Zanussi, AEG, John Lewis) are all producing some very high performing and reliable machines. My Miele is the best machine I've owned, including the late 70's Zanussi I grew up with.
Maybe you should try broadening your horizon's and trying out a few different machines before making such outlandish statements?
I think that's the most ridiculous thing I've read in this thread, and that's saying something.
There are some fantastic machines being produced today. Just because Hoover and Hotpoint aren't what they used to be, doesn't make everything else bad. Look at Beko, who have gone from strength to strength in the last few years and are now widely regarded as the best of the budget range. Indesit have never been known for producting particularly good machines. Miele, BSH Group (Bosch, Siemens, Neff) and Electrolux Group (Zanussi, AEG, John Lewis) are all producing some very high performing and reliable machines. My Miele is the best machine I've owned, including the late 70's Zanussi I grew up with.
Maybe you should try broadening your horizon's and trying out a few different machines before making such outlandish statements?
liberatordeluxe
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You don't like it do you if people have a difference of opinion do you AquaCycle? I don't need to broaden my horizons thank you very much.
I have never come across such a bunch of arrogant people than on here and I wish I never joined the bloody forum.
I am not interested in hearing how wonderful shallow rinses are because they are not. End of!!!!!!! Perhaps you should read the article 'Why can't modern washing machines rinse properly' Written by Andy Trigg and I have to say he knows what he is talking about.
Anyway I am not contributing anymore to this site and have requested to the moderator my account to be deleted.
Good riddance to rude and arrogant people.
I have never come across such a bunch of arrogant people than on here and I wish I never joined the bloody forum.
I am not interested in hearing how wonderful shallow rinses are because they are not. End of!!!!!!! Perhaps you should read the article 'Why can't modern washing machines rinse properly' Written by Andy Trigg and I have to say he knows what he is talking about.
Anyway I am not contributing anymore to this site and have requested to the moderator my account to be deleted.
Good riddance to rude and arrogant people.
Watch the door...
On The Way Out, and dont trip over the heap of detergent, theres a good fellow!!
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liberatordeluxe
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GO AND SHOVE YOUR HEAD IN A HOT OVEN AND FRY
aquacycle
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You don't like it do you if people have a difference of
Pot calling Kettle black, much?
"I am not interested in hearing how wonderful shallow rinses are because they are not. End of!!!!!!!"
Just proves my point. You're not interested in the slightest suggestion that what you are saying could be just a little bit wrong. You ask the same questions over and over again until someone comes up with the answer that you want to hear, which is not necessarily the right one. You dodge criticism and anyone who challenges your opinion, because you're so blind to see that other people on here have different opinions to you and have FAR more experience to back up their point than you do.
You don't even voice your opinion, you state what you believe to be a fact. There is no discussion or interesting debate to be had with you, because you're not interested unless everyone thinks you're right. Which is NEVER going to happen.
"Anyway I am not contributing anymore to this site and have requested to the moderator my account to be deleted"
THANK GOD. Maybe now we can all get back to have a proper conversation?
Pot calling Kettle black, much?
"I am not interested in hearing how wonderful shallow rinses are because they are not. End of!!!!!!!"
Just proves my point. You're not interested in the slightest suggestion that what you are saying could be just a little bit wrong. You ask the same questions over and over again until someone comes up with the answer that you want to hear, which is not necessarily the right one. You dodge criticism and anyone who challenges your opinion, because you're so blind to see that other people on here have different opinions to you and have FAR more experience to back up their point than you do.
You don't even voice your opinion, you state what you believe to be a fact. There is no discussion or interesting debate to be had with you, because you're not interested unless everyone thinks you're right. Which is NEVER going to happen.
"Anyway I am not contributing anymore to this site and have requested to the moderator my account to be deleted"
THANK GOD. Maybe now we can all get back to have a proper conversation?
aquacycle
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Anyway, back on topic...
Mike, great pics of the Zug's. On the rinsing subject, what are the rinse levels like in the Fagor, if you're still on with it?
Mike, great pics of the Zug's. On the rinsing subject, what are the rinse levels like in the Fagor, if you're still on with it?
Zugs Rinsing...
The Zug Adora has a low level rinse and by using the optical sensor will add more rinses when necessary, have only seen it overfoam once and that was when a visitor (non AW) was using it....
If you change to extra rinse / sensitive option, it fills half way up the drum and its like watching a tsunami the way that big baffle moves water and all in one go!!
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The Zug Adora has a low level rinse and by using the optical sensor will add more rinses when necessary, have only seen it overfoam once and that was when a visitor (non AW) was using it....
If you change to extra rinse / sensitive option, it fills half way up the drum and its like watching a tsunami the way that big baffle moves water and all in one go!!
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The MaytAskos....
used the shallow rinses, never had a problem with this at all, still going strong, and IMHO this is one of the best looking matched pairs of the day!!
Chris - The Faghoare is history, but must admit it did a grand job and drying was fast, daily drivers at the moment are the 80's Servis quartz set, aside from today where am videoing the A3112 Keymatic!!
used the shallow rinses, never had a problem with this at all, still going strong, and IMHO this is one of the best looking matched pairs of the day!!
Chris - The Faghoare is history, but must admit it did a grand job and drying was fast, daily drivers at the moment are the 80's Servis quartz set, aside from today where am videoing the A3112 Keymatic!!
aquacycle
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Nice choices with the Servis set, Mike. Have you had chance to try the new Servis machines at all?
liberatordeluxe
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Never owned a Servis myself but I knew someone who did. They WERE good machines and very reliable.
