Clean Rinsing Detergents

[liberatordeluxe]

I am using Almat mostly but using the Ariel liquid up on cool washes.

 

[liberatordeluxe]

I NEVER said that some washer engineer on WhiteGoods did. Don't misquote me sugar. I looked at the product ingredients and it is more concentrated than Persil powder for colours. First ingredient of Almat was Sodium Carbonate, First ingredient of Persil Colour is Sodium Sulfate a bulking agent.

 

[liberatordeluxe]

Not naming names but the guy who told me Almat was rubbish and bad at rotting machines was on WG website. Some engineers recommend brands others say it makes no difference.

 

[hoover1100]

High water level

Yes it does fill that high on the cool down and all 3 rinses, but then it is a Hoover Logic built in June 1988.

I have extremely sensitive skin with very bad eczema and contact dermatitis, the detergent that I use, and the rinsing performance of my washing machine has never had any affect on it, it's always bad whether I use tonnes of strong detergent in a modern low water use machine or if I use barely any delicate detergent in one of my vintage machines.

Lashings of diprobase and betnovate are all that keep it relatively under control.

Matt

 

[liberatordeluxe]

I had the Hoover Electron, really miss that machine but Mum never repaired it and we got an Indesit which have to say was a good machine until the door lock failed and flooded the kitchen!

Sorry to hear you get eczema, horrible thing to have. Do you avoid Sodium Laureth Sulfate and parabens then too in personal care products? Found excluding parabens made a difference.

 

[aquacycle]

You wanna see it, when it flares up, poor Matt's eczema spreads quicker than chlamydia in a clap clinic

 

[spoodles]

I bet P&G have just brought liquids back so they can sell a couple of bigger pack sizes, gel is only 16 or 24 washes. They also arrived just as Persil Small & Mighty was about to relaunch. Can't see why they'd get rid of gel and like aquarius1984 said, the Ariel ones have got new label designs now.

 

[hoover1100]

In all honestly

I have never heard of sodium whatchamacallit or parabens (probably why I got an E at AS level chemistry) all I know is good old coal tar soap seems to help it slightly, and I don't use any perfumed moisturisers and slather on lots of diprobase after towelling off and whenever my skin starts to feel dry.

Matt

 

[hoover1100]

And Chris

You'd know exactly what that looks like

 

[liberatordeluxe]

I applied for a job at Lush and I and another person were the only 2 people who knew what SLES and parabens were so not many people do know but that's what Google is for Basically lauryl alcohol + coconut oil then reacted with ethylene oxide gives you SLES. Its in Sanex, Radox, Lush products etc. Probably going slightly off topic but SLES was in Ariel Excel gel and that was the foam booster agent.

 

[liberatordeluxe]

Unilever and P&G are always competing with eachother.

 

[aquacycle]

I get all my bathroom stuff from Lush. Apart from toothpaste.

I won't get started on another P&G rant, the folks on here are getting sick of hearing about it now lol. But I strongly disagree with their animal testing practices. There are no P&G products in my house. It's all Unilever or store brands.

 

[hoover1100]

I see

Well I have Sanex shower gel at the moment, because I was recommended it by another eczema sufferer, I've had no adverse effects from it but niether has it made anything better, and for the price I'd expect it to be the cure for the common cold!

 

[liamy1]

There are no P&G products in my house. It's all Unilever

At the risk of sounding dumb, do Unilever not test on animals. I'd like to know, because if they don't I will try and stick with their stuff. Tbh I thought both PandG and Unilever did?

 

[aquacycle]

Unilever have been very open about their animal testing practices in the past, but have always funded massive amounts of research into alternatives. In the early 2000's, they reduced their animal testing to under 70% what it was, and this reduction has continued gradually ever since as more research is done.

P&G don't care. They've out right lied about their animal testing on several occaisions and only been found out due to under cover investigation by animal rights charities.

Check out the following:

http://www.uncaged.co.uk/pgtesting.htm

http://www.uncaged.co.uk/pg.htm

http://www.naturalnews.com/035365_Procter_and_Gamble_animal_testing_cruelty.html

(only look at this if you have a strong stomach and aren't too emotional)
http://www.animalliberationfront.com/Philosophy/Animal Testing/CatForcefedCleaner.htm

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www.iamscruelty.com

 

[liamy1]

cheers

cheers AquaCycle

 

[liberatordeluxe]

Funny how they tell you they don't test products on animals when you ask them outright on the phone.

I buy Astonish cleaning products, Method or Unilever.

But I am finishing up Ariel but won't buy it anymore then as its hypocritical I suppose. I already use Wilikinson Sword razor blades.

Maybe the formulation for Sanex is different then Matt? If it is working then keep to it.

 

[aquacycle]

I buy Astonish cleaning products

Kind of off-topic, but the Astonic VacMaxx carpet shampoo is the best I've ever used!

 

[liberatordeluxe]

Where do P&G carry out there animal testing anyway? Is it not illegal for it to be carried out in the UK?

 

[liberatordeluxe]

I also forgot Mcbride products are good too Clean and Fresh is a brand in its own right I think.