michaelman2
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In the midst of trying to clean up from Thanksgiving day..I have a VERY clogged kitchen drain...ya'll send me some good energy ..decided to take a break from all of that and relax here!
Clogged Old Drains..sheesh!
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hoover1060
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Is there a disposal in this somewhere?
if so, whats the brand/model and how old is it?
if so, whats the brand/model and how old is it?
I share your pain on a clogged drain at the worst time. I dumped some leftovers down my brand new never had one before garbage disposal on monday and the sink backed up. I had a plunber out to snake it, he said it was fine (although I thought it still seemed slow) paid him $100 and Wednesday evening as I was cooking up a storm the sink clogged again. Try to find someone on the Wednesday before Thankingsgving at 7pm to come out. Had another plumber here until midnight, had to snake it out to the street and cost another $300. Needless to say, I'm pretty leary about my new garbage disposal now!
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Disposals
Guys, don't be leary about using that disposal, with a reasonably lcear drain that disposal will actually help to keep those pipes clear. The disposal acts as a pump, forcing the water down the drain line. Hard things down the disposal(chicken bones, peach pits, nut shells) will scour the pipes.
what might help:
Fill the disposal side of the sink with water, if you have a double sink close the other side, then turn on the disposal and remove the stopper, allowing the disposal to pump the sink full of water thru the drain line. That may help clear things up some.
Guys, don't be leary about using that disposal, with a reasonably lcear drain that disposal will actually help to keep those pipes clear. The disposal acts as a pump, forcing the water down the drain line. Hard things down the disposal(chicken bones, peach pits, nut shells) will scour the pipes.
what might help:
Fill the disposal side of the sink with water, if you have a double sink close the other side, then turn on the disposal and remove the stopper, allowing the disposal to pump the sink full of water thru the drain line. That may help clear things up some.
michaelman2
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Hey all...Hoover..the brand is Insinkerator (sp?) garbage disp in my sink...we were dumb enough to place some turkey down the thing and it really backed up. This unit is 1 year old and man it has some power..I think the lights dim when I turn it on..lol.....Jmm63..lord.,.,I know how you felt..ours was 500.00 to go out to the sewer line..you guys should have seen my kitchen..literally was up to my ears in dirty dishes..all is ok now..if I can just get someone to come do the dishes....I digress
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Guys,
ISE disposers have that problem, sometimes stuff goes right through them without being chewed. I have one too, and have found it will eat most everything but onion peelings.
Whats most important when using a disposal is that there be a good strong flow of cold water running to keep things moving, and then after each major use of the disposal you flush the drain line out by filling the sink and letting the disposal push it thru the line.
Whatever you do, don't pour cleaner in the disposal, it will severly corrode the metal parts!
Guys,
ISE disposers have that problem, sometimes stuff goes right through them without being chewed. I have one too, and have found it will eat most everything but onion peelings.
Whats most important when using a disposal is that there be a good strong flow of cold water running to keep things moving, and then after each major use of the disposal you flush the drain line out by filling the sink and letting the disposal push it thru the line.
Whatever you do, don't pour cleaner in the disposal, it will severly corrode the metal parts!
ISE machines do have problems handling "stringy" wastes such as onions,banana peels,etc.they need under cutters to help cut the stringy peices up.A disposer is a poor pump-too much air gets into it to get much pump action.If you have the sinkful of water-now you will get some pumping action.But still not as good as a centrifical pump of the same horsepower.And those drain cleaners will damage the water seals between the shredding chamber and the disposal motor.
We always had problems with our disposal in the last house, backing up. I believed that the problem was the drain pipe was not pitched enough enroute thru the house and out to the sewer that the ground up waste kept settling and sticking without enough of a slope to keep it moving.
Yes,an improperly sloped drain pipe will cause clogs-this happens in my home as well-I did crawl under my house and have "propped" up the line with bricks,boards or whatever was under the house.Its a little better.when I grind the banana peels from my drinks in an old Vita-Mix jar-I strain the fibrous peices out and don't let them go down the drain-that will clog the pipes-all along I thought the Vita-Mix was cutting up the fibers-it wasn't these fibers are tough enough where they need the "shearing" action of disposer undercutters to chop them up.Thats where a VINTAGE Waste King or KA machine would help.Those had undercutters to shear stringy items before they went into the drainpipe.At least the cutting action of the Vita mix-with the water makes the fibers odor free so I can put them in the trash.The whole skins would smell and attract all kinds of critters.
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clear drains
once a week, I put chlorine bleach down my drains after the last use at night (non-disposer side in the case of the kitchen sink) This seems to keep things moving. And when I use the disposer, I run it to the point that after nI shut off the water, then shut off the disposer, it "coasts" to a stop so I know it's clear.
once a week, I put chlorine bleach down my drains after the last use at night (non-disposer side in the case of the kitchen sink) This seems to keep things moving. And when I use the disposer, I run it to the point that after nI shut off the water, then shut off the disposer, it "coasts" to a stop so I know it's clear.
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one other thing:
When using the disposal, are you loading it first or starting the disposal then feeding it?
It makes a difference, I will switch mine on first then feed it gradually, giving it time to chew. Leaving the water and disposal run for about 15-30 seconds after all the stuff is gone is important too for keeping the line clear.
When using the disposal, are you loading it first or starting the disposal then feeding it?
It makes a difference, I will switch mine on first then feed it gradually, giving it time to chew. Leaving the water and disposal run for about 15-30 seconds after all the stuff is gone is important too for keeping the line clear.
Yes--that is important NOT to load the disposer hopper before turning it on-esp packing it.The disposal motor may not be able to start.In the case of coninous feeders-the disposer and water should be turned on before putting the waste in it.Yes-I have done the "coast" method-you don't want anything in the machine as it spins down-otherwise it may jam.-esp bone slivers.You will hear something clinking around in that case-if so turn the water and disposer back on and let it grind some more-then the whatever is gone.
michaelman2
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Tolivac..that makes sense..thanks. I am going to try with the bleach once a week as well. The plumber had to go all the way to the sewer line..yuck.
bethann
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I've never heard of putting Chicken bones in there before.
I have put in broken glass though. They say if you bust some up with a hammer and run it through it will help sharpen the blades and keep pipes clean. I'm not sure about the blade thing but, helping with the pipes I can kind of see.
I have put in broken glass though. They say if you bust some up with a hammer and run it through it will help sharpen the blades and keep pipes clean. I'm not sure about the blade thing but, helping with the pipes I can kind of see.
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BETHANN!!!
Please, no more glass!!
Ground glass won't float, and just collects in the pipes!
To keep disposer and pipes clean:
A good strong flow of cold water when using the machine
Turn on water and disposal first, then drop the garbage down
Hard stuff like bones(poulty, beef, pork) nut shells, peach pits are GOOD for the disposal and your pipes. Yes the sound of this stuff being ground is loud, but you lay be sure disposal and pipes are clean after feeding some spare-rib bones!
Listen to the sound of your disposal, turn off the motor and water about 15 seconds after you hear it finish grinding.
Please, no more glass!!
Ground glass won't float, and just collects in the pipes!
To keep disposer and pipes clean:
A good strong flow of cold water when using the machine
Turn on water and disposal first, then drop the garbage down
Hard stuff like bones(poulty, beef, pork) nut shells, peach pits are GOOD for the disposal and your pipes. Yes the sound of this stuff being ground is loud, but you lay be sure disposal and pipes are clean after feeding some spare-rib bones!
Listen to the sound of your disposal, turn off the motor and water about 15 seconds after you hear it finish grinding.
bethann
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OK OK!
I won't put anymore glass in there! I promise! I was just doing what I was told. The bone thing kinda freaks me out though. I'll give it a try and see what happens. I can't remember where I heard about the glass.
I won't put anymore glass in there! I promise! I was just doing what I was told. The bone thing kinda freaks me out though. I'll give it a try and see what happens. I can't remember where I heard about the glass.
Bones and glass--DEFINETLY do not try to grind glass in your disposer-the glass will wear down the cutting edges and clog pipes.I would be hesetent to grind large beef or pork bones in a home disposer-large commercial ones-fine.Chicken bones are OK-and will clean the "slime" off the stationary shredders of machines that don't get bones of any sort in their diet.also with the beef or pork bones-I have had them get thrown out of the disposer opening across the kitchen!I stopped trying to shred those.another time a beef bone tore a hole in the side of a hopper (ISE BADGER)when I tried to grind it.I think I would give the beef bones to the dog or the trash.
whirlcool
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I have heard of trying to use broken glass in a disposer before, I thought it would be kind of dangerous, good chances a shard or two will come flying back at you. I was always suspicious of that. I heard that ice does the trick as well.
Last month the wife poured a 1/2 quart of used cooking oil down the kitchen drain and now the drain in there is very slow. We have used Drano Crystals, etc. everything we could think of without having to call the plumber. Before she did this the drain was very fast acting. Any ideas how to remedy this?
Last month the wife poured a 1/2 quart of used cooking oil down the kitchen drain and now the drain in there is very slow. We have used Drano Crystals, etc. everything we could think of without having to call the plumber. Before she did this the drain was very fast acting. Any ideas how to remedy this?
Some disposers are rather picky eaters just by the nature of where in the plumbing system they run. With a small, 1 1/2 or 2 inch line that has a long run to the house main will require LOTS of water to flush things all the way down. With newer, low-flow faucets, much less water is going down the drain than it seems. Most have a flow rate of 2.5 gpm. That isn't much water to flush away large quantities of food waste let alone carry away bone shards. My step-brother is a master plumber so has a lot of first-hand experience with many plumbing issues. The best thing to use in drains to keep them clear is enzymes specifcally made for drain line maintenance. I buy it at a janitorial supply and it only needs to be done once a week or less depending on usage and system configuration. Other chemicals have very little, if any use as a maintenance cleaner.
