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fido

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I seem to be having all sorts of cooking problems lately. This started with a bag of frozen burgonyanudli. This literally translates as potato noodles but they are actually a type of dumpling which you put in boiling water and remove when they float. You can then coat them with fried breadcrumbs if desired. I got the bag out of the freezer to check what to do with them. I then made the mistake of putting them in the fridge, ready to use the next day. You will guess what happened, once thawed they congealed back into a single lump of dough! Not a problem, thought I, just divide them up and reform them. I was not bothered about the shape, I would just make rough balls, like you would with suet dumplings. The trouble was, the dough was very wet and sticky, so I had to add loads of flour before I could handle the dough without it all sticking to my hands. They worked OK in the end and I cut them up smaller and used them in soup. You can use them as savoury or sweet.
I don't tend to do baking much but in the cold weather it can be a good excuse to be in the kitchen, which is the warmest part of the house. Also the stove is going anyway, as it does the heating as well as cooking. The bag of flour I used to rectify the sticky dough was now plastered with dried on dough, so I wanted it used up in order to throw away the packet. I therefore decided to make pastry with it.
I still had a part jar of mincemeat left from Christmas so I made a dozen normal size mince pies plus a larger one. There was still a lot of pastry left so I did a couple of Victoria sandwich tins with pastry to bake blind. I had never done this baking blind before but I knew you could use rice to weigh down the pastry. What I had not heard was that you have to use foil or parchment to stop the rice from sticking to the pastry!. OK, I eventually got all the rice off the pastry and then was looking to see what I could use to fill my pastry cases. I had in mind quiche or egg custard but all the quiche recipes called for cream, which I didn't have and the egg custard recipes used egg yolks rather than whole eggs. I then remembered that my mother sometimes made a lemon meringue pie when she made egg custard, I suppose it was to avoid wasting the egg whites.
I had some packets of vanilla pudding mix which one of my Hungarian volunteers had picked up on our shopping trips. This seems to be something like blancmange so I decided to use this in my pastry cases. The instructions are in various languages but not English. I could see that it called for half a litre of milk so I guessed the rest. I made a slurry with some of the milk, heated the rest of the milk and poured it onto the slurry then boiled up the mixture. I had put a layer of home made plum jam on the bottom of the pastry cases and on one I also added some mandarin orange segments. I poured the boiled mixture onto the pastry cases and then tasted it. I then realised it does not contain sugar, I should have added some! I guess the instructions must say something like "sweeten to taste", as they don't give a quantity of sugar.
My mince pies looked OK but most of them stuck to the tins, so they came out in bits! I had greased the tins but with butter. Perhaps I should have greased them with margarine or cooking oil.
 
Oh My...Sounds like a trying day in your kitchen.

Most pre made frozen dough products are made strictly to go from freezer to cook.

I've done it with frozen pasta. When the Fresh Frozen Pasta hit the Food Service industry ( around 1980 ) I thought it would have made sense to defrost first no matter what the directions said.

And of course one of my cooks just had to say..." That's why they put directions on the package".

Sorry you had a rough time.
 
Thank you!

Mincemeat! Just reading the word brought back the memory of the wonderful perfume in our house in Illinois when my mother made her own mincemeat and the pan sat on the stove like a fragrant offering on an altar.
 
Pastry Woes

@fido

Sounds like you did not do a bad job actually, if you still have the "custard" pie you could try sprinkling a little sugar over the top (ideally demerara) and perhaps even lightly caramalise it under a hot grill or pop it in a hot oven for a couple of minutes.

If you had the right ingredients to hand you could have put some Victoria Sponge mix over the top of either (on a ratio of 2oz butter/marge, 2oz sugar, 1 egg, 2oz self-raising flour) or if you have ground almonds and some almond essence to hand substitute some almonds for flour and you are pretty much in Bakewell Tart land or I have another mixture which uses semolina, but I will need to check out the quantities at home.

And actually some sponge over a thin layer of mincemeat would have been very good too. Pastry topped mince pies are always a bugger because unless you are less than generous with the filling and VERY careful about sealing the lids the juice from the mince will almost inevitably boil out causing them to stick to the tin.

Al
 
Thanks for the suggestions, Al. I have got a tub of sour cream and I did wonder about mixing that with icing sugar to make a sweet topping for the pie. The mince pies had not boiled over but they had taken a long time to cook. My wood burning range is an Austrian Windhager one and it is nowhere near as good for cooking as my old Rayburn I had in Scotland. Often the oven temperature is too low so things take ages. Pans take ages to boil on the hob too as the metal is very thin so it soon cools down, The Rayburn had a very thick slab of cast iron for the hob and it retained the heat a lot better.
 
Potato Noodle?

Are they like Gnocchi or Spaetzle? Mmmm

Somehow, I'm reminded of the awful pizza I made with freeze burned dough and way too salty arugula pesto. Blech.
 
Yes, much like gnocchi, just a different shape. I've not seen frozen gnocchi, I've bought it chilled or as a powder you mix up. I still don't understand why a frozen product would have a different consistency to the chilled version. I've never heard of Spaetzle.
 

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