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The Daily Mail has a story on how BEKO items could be dangerous: Leaking gas,

Title: "Killer in the kitchen".

Is this a symptom that the drive for (a low) retail price is sacrificing safety, durability, materials consumption and solid machine performance?

www.dailymail.co.uk

Ovens linked to the gassing of ten people. And one firm makes them all

Richard Smith (inset) died from carbon monoxide poisoning as his Beko cooker (left) had a serious design flaw. His parents Brian and Wray (right) say the company is guilty of corporate manslaughter.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
I think this is symptomatic of one company making a manufacturing error and not acting quickly enough on a recall. Given the large numbers of cookers that were probably made, this is a small number of reported problems. While I understand they could be liable for corp. manslaughter, I would expect that if they'd acted quicker then people could have been safer.

I also suspect there may be an element of user error that has caused the problem, but that is not entirely the point.

Basically, I think it is like the Toyota braking recall where the tolerances of manufacturing on a part have been brought to a point where it has caused a problem. Given that these parts are quite likely made by a third party supplier, it would appear to be more bad luck than designing cheapness into something at the cost of safety.
 
I'll never buy Beko now.
So thats another thing to add to their (Disaster) list:

1. Tumble Dryer Fire's
2. Fridge Fire's
3. Oven Fire's
4. Oven's that Gas people (to death)
5. Shattering Door Glasses on Ovens under heat
6. Washing Machine door glass exploding (well most brands had this too)!

Thats 6 flaws I know off, how many more is there? They have the most problems than any other manufacturer. We've all said Indesit is bad, and Candy's bad, but how wrong are we?
 
I don't think they are much worse than any other, and they have at least responded to faults. It took Indesit more than two years to get round to recalling their dishwashers that were catching fire.

To be honest, I don't think they have had much more in way of problems than other companies have, it's just that the size of Arcelik and sheer volume of sales under their various brands means that you will hear about these problems more.
 
What a terribly sad story. I can't get over that when he bought this cooker there had already been 5 deaths from the same model? How in the world could this be?
 
What a sad story and what would appear to be a serious safety flaw. Regardless if it was stated in the manual that the door not be closed during operation, there should have been allowance for that possibility if it could result in such a deadly danger.

I am not familiar with these "grills" found on so many European cookers, perhaps a quick course on their features and use might be helpful to understand. I would assume this is like a "broiler" here in the states? Are they typically separate in only gas cookers or both gas and electric?
 
I did like my Beko washer for the most part it was just a few niggling things that annoyed me enough to replace it. The lack of ability to spin the simplest loads was the biggest. Bedding was a no no and often resulted in a complete 'abandon spin' or a spin at 400rpm. Towels were hit and miss. The Simpson/Tricity Bendix I have now is an amazing washer so I am happy I changed but its a shame to see a brand with so many good points having just as many negative points.
 
@gansky

It depends on the brand.
Some ovens manufacturers do still sell the US style separate Grill, which is usually above the Hob on top? (very rare now though)
However most have it built in to the Top Oven. Most manufacturers, put in a similar grilling element to those used in the states above the hob, and obviously no door on them ones, so when Grilling you leave the top door open. Whether its Gas or electric, the gas flame is fired at a large element, which heats up, while the electric ones heat the element itself.

Obviously leaving the door open can be a real safety problems, especially if children in the house, or the oven is an under counter double oven. Bosch/Siemens (and I think Miele now) have overcome this by removing the typical grill element, and instead increase the surface area of the oven element, so you get similar grilling effect, but with the door closed, whether its on full or half grill.
So if you switch away from Bosch to another brand, such as Beko, chances are they wouldn't think about the leaving the door open. That said, that particular Gas oven, its on Grill or Bake, you can't have both.
 
mattywashboy,

That's a shame to hear your Beko washer was very sensitive on spins. That's put me off buying a top end Beko when I buy my flat. I have a cheap Beko in the flat where I'm currently living with others and it spins heavy loads, unbalanced loads without any issues. It's only 5kg size. So I don't understand the logic of Beko making their high end washers overly sensitive.

I had to sell a Zanussi (Electrolux) machine back in 2012 for being too sensitive to spins. Majority of the time it would take up to 20 mins to spin or abort them. I bought another Zanussi based on their previous generation which spins everytime without fail and is more substantial. It's a shame they didn't retain their quality.
 
I had exactly the same problem with my old machine, a Caple (Fagor, didn't choose it. It was already in the house). It would rarely spin with a load of towels, often aborting after 20 minutes of trying to balance. In the end I had enough and replaced it with a Whirlpool which isn't sensitive at all! It spins up to 400rpm before even thinking about rebalancing. Sometimes I pause it so it rebalances!

Shame about the Beko spin problem, from your videos it looked like a nice machine.
 
"Sometimes I pause it so it rebalances!"

I do that to my mum's 8 year old Bosch. It has a tendency to gallop into spin without so much as a by your leave, shaking itself to bits in the process.

A sensible machine would do a couple of very short, slow spins to get rid of most of the water and then redistribute before ramping into the faster speed spins.

I often wonder who authorised the daft spin sequence on that range of Bosch machines.
 

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