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AEG 40850 dishwasher.

As you can see you can fit a hell of a lot more into the much more better and well thought out designed racks of the AEG and Miele dishwashers.


I linked to the wrong picture above again (think I need to head for bed soon lol). Here's the proper link to the AEG 5041 dishwasher.


Jon
 
Lavamat (off topic)....what is the name of the color the cabinets to the left and right of the dishwasher?

(I like it.)
 
Thanks, everyone, for the comments.

So it would appear that Miele are a good choice for the money and Bosch / Siemens a second choice. I don't like the look of the basic Miele too much, I have issues with the steam grille thing on the front and it looks a bit square. Whereas I think Bosch and Siemens produce some really nice looking dishwashers in the TOL range. Does that mean I'm all about surface values?

I would agree that the Tricity Bendix is probably a good budget buy but it's not the machine for me.

We'll have to see how I get on with the slimline in the new house.

Kirk, thanks for the inf. I guess if the BC20 is a pre-Merloni Hotpoint the owner of the house was telling porkies when she said it was two years old. That would make it, what, at least 5 years old? So that's probably on the way out too!!

Regards to all

Nick
 
Jon

I dont really like your attitude towards Tricity Bendix Dishwashers.

My Mum had one 1994 - 2006 aND Its racking was great. Wine glasses and coffee mugs fitted in perfectly and were supported really well, we got 6 mugs in each of the 3 sections of the upper rack on the right hand side. 8 tumblers on the right hand side and in between in the plate section many dishes and bowls.

Likewise for the very first dishwasher I owned, the Zanussi Slimline DW4123. Wine glasses were washed expertly and I never broke one in the 6 months I had it nor in the 12 years mum had hers.

Tricity Bendix have always had many of the quality features of AEG and Zanussi for instance the Equipoise door, decent cutlery baskets and knife racks in ther top basket and the wash programmes were fab too. I know the plastic rack is for coffee cups but we hardly use them and the big knives seemd safer there with ladles and spoons etc.

The Bendix was only scrapped because I insisted Mum had my Hotpoint dishwasher the day I moved out of Sarahs life, I didnt want it rotting in the garage and it was one less piece of something clogging up the storage area.
and it was a touch quieter, something she liked the idea of and to experience a digital display dishwasher lol.

However I doubt the Hottie will see 10 years old (its nearly 6 now)with all these PCB problems gathering. Im not convinced they are any more reliable than a traditional clicky Crouzet type dial which is pretty obvious and I wont be surprised if many Miele machines suffer the same problem.

Nick I would go with the Miele with the Grille, I feel its the steam thats writing off these modern PCB controlled machines and any grille letting it escape IMHO should help.
I agree i dont like the look of it but for the reliabilty I think the grille helps save the insides.

Miele the way to go!!!!!

Nick
 
BTW

Indesit dishwasher WERE the dishwasher TO have back in the 80s and we were talk of the street when Mum got her first DW back in '88, they were reliable and cheap, the Rich and those slightly well off had them and those who could barely afford one also had one.

When my Dad started ripping out a kitchen unit in a brand new fitted kitchen in a brand new house the neighbours were mortified but when the saw the gleaming dishes coming out of the Indesit they all started getting one.

Well despite being the best manufacturer of DW's IMHO in the 80s, the Indesit didnt come close to the Tricity Bendix in terms of cleaning or reliability for us.

The lower rack wheels had to be lifted over the gap between the door and the cabinet, Mum was amazed the TBs racks just slid out without crashing down the gap!
and the Equipoise door was an essential with 3 young kids around.

Nick
 
Steam vents in a Miele

Hey Aquarius,

The Miele's without the steam vent on the front exhaust through a vent in top of the cabinet, which vents between the kickplate and the bottom of the door. It is similiar to a whirlpool dishwasher, however it vents to the room, rather than inside the underneath of the machine. So the steam is withdrawn from the cabinet, condensed and then exits under the door.

In my collecting of Miele washers and dishwashers, it is the PCB that fails last with these. Granted when it does its horrifically expensive to replace, but usually its a thermostat or motor bearing that goes in Miele. Out of 15 machines that I've brought home, only 2 have been dead electronically, the rest have usually had faults where there are moving parts. IE Bearings, door locks, belts etc. Most of the machines I find that are unecconomical to repair date from 1988-1992 or so, after that they are usually recoverable.
 
Jon,

I dont want to sound snotty or anything with my above post, just felt that these budget DW's are the best some people can afford and that they are better than the El Cheapo ones usually found in Currys, Comet etc with the names Beko and Candy/Hoover attached to them thses days.

Maybe catch ya later on MS#N buddy,

Nick x
 
Nick, Zanussi dishwashers were good right up until the mid-late 90s IMO, my school had a 1994 Aquasave (similar to the Jetsystem washers with the grey display and pop in pop out dial) and the upper rack on that was actually very different to the model we had, it's only the later ones that I've personally found to leave a lot more to be desired. We had to put up with an equivalent for 3 years as I've already said, and I still maintain it is the worst dishwasher I've ever had to load, even my parents hated it and usually they're the sort of people who don't care. To me, they are no better than Hoover or Indesit dishwashers, except for the fact that they are made by a company with much better ethics. BTW we owned one, my auntie & uncle have the same model (mum recommended it when we first got ours, she also recommended our Hotpoint WM64 to them but look where that got mum LOL) plus I know a couple of others with Zanussi dishwashers from the same era who all HATE the racking and have had various repair problems (I think my auntie's has had something like 3 new elements), not to highlight Nick's original post here.

Maybe I'm sounding snooty, but fact is cheap is cheap and I'm not going to excuse it when I see it especially when you can buy a more decent dishwasher for only £300 or so - when I used to sell dishwashers I would often show them the Bendix we had ondisplay then step them up to the Bosch models, which for a little bit more money are a lot better and most of he customers who weren't tight bastards agreed. They're very popular dishwashers too (everyone seems to haev a Bosch dishwasher nowadays), and I think the PCB complaints may just be due to the reason that there are just more of them around.

To be fair on Zanussi, though, their newer models (within the past year or two) seem to have dumped the sump design that mine had to a similar one to what AEG use, and even though they still have those silly upper baskets there is every chance that they have improved in quality over the version I had, but still there's little point in buying a Zanussi for £250 when you can get a better Bosch for £300 or so.

I have to agree with you about the 1980s Indesits, they seemed to be built like tanks. Our Hoover Crystaljet was too and it was put through 2 or 3 washes a day every day between 1989 and 2001, only repair it had was at the very end of it's life which was the door hinges. Though it did look very sorry when we got rid of it, the control panel had yellowed in the soon and there was scorch marks on the top right of the door panel where steam used to escape during the drying cycle when the door hinges were wonky! But there are still days when I lie in bed, hearing the end of cycle beep go off on the Miele dishwasher downstairs, and wish it could be the Hoover Crystaljet dishwasher I can hear! Used to make a great whooshing sound as it filled as the pressure built up... has anybody else noticed that dishwashers don't do that nowadays?

Should catch you on MSN Nick, I will be on most of this evening :-). We do need a good catch up!

Jon

(Of course, I must put the disclaimer in that these are purely my opinions based on my personal experiences and what I have put together from listening to others, and not an attempt to sound snooty or cause any personal offence).
 
There are also those occasions where BOL/cheap/budget DW perform to an excellent standard and go on for years. I used to rent a house that had a BOL Candy DW that is still going without repair and with a lot of abuse after 10 years and in the 2 years that I lived there was a great machine and in fact, it was better at drying than my Bosch which I have had for 6 years and is a real workhorse. I think it is a bit of a blanket condemnation to say that some of the lower end machines are poor when in fact they are not at all. In my experience, a lot of problems with DW are not so much the machine, but the operator and the way they are loaded.
 

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