scrubflex
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Differences Between Westinghouse & White Westinghouse Washtub Capacity
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scrubflex
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Here's Westinghouse unchanging tub...
scrubflex
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On to, so if it's more than a brake needed then what component can keep the washtub stationary eliminating the indexing?
Only a Brake Would Be Needed
GE FF washers will index if the brake fails completely I have seen them do this.
The other thing WH TL washers always needed was a better agitator, While Spiral-Ramp agitators were alway great fun to watch they have never been an effective design for turning over and washing large loads, this is why no one has used one in decades.
SR agitators made some sense in Wringer washers where you usually did not load that heavily because you were going to wash several batches of laundry in the same tub of water.
Ironically WH TL washers were about the only TL washer available from the late 60s on that did not offer a Suds-saver option on their washers, yet they always advertised how thrifty their FL washers were with water, detergent etc.
John L.
GE FF washers will index if the brake fails completely I have seen them do this.
The other thing WH TL washers always needed was a better agitator, While Spiral-Ramp agitators were alway great fun to watch they have never been an effective design for turning over and washing large loads, this is why no one has used one in decades.
SR agitators made some sense in Wringer washers where you usually did not load that heavily because you were going to wash several batches of laundry in the same tub of water.
Ironically WH TL washers were about the only TL washer available from the late 60s on that did not offer a Suds-saver option on their washers, yet they always advertised how thrifty their FL washers were with water, detergent etc.
John L.
scrubflex
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Hmm, how would or (could) the brake package be installed into the Westinghouse? And, not disputing you but, have you seen DanManTN's "WhiteWestingQueen" washer videos of his 2009 Speed Queen - AWN542 washer using the Westinghouse (regular) DEEP Ramp agitator with the 3 vertical ribs...it seems to be doing pretty good...a large load of towels
scrubflex
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here's an extra large load of bath towels
SQ TL washer With A Ramp agitator
Yes you can see how much a tub brake helps, now put in a decent agitator and really wash some clothing. neither of the two loads are all that large, lets put in one of my standard test loads of 10 pairs of levy jeans [ W32"X I34" ] and see how the turn over is.
Our SC WP DD washers with a DAA can easily wash and effectively turn over this load of jeans, I do it at least 3 times every month.
John L.
Yes you can see how much a tub brake helps, now put in a decent agitator and really wash some clothing. neither of the two loads are all that large, lets put in one of my standard test loads of 10 pairs of levy jeans [ W32"X I34" ] and see how the turn over is.
Our SC WP DD washers with a DAA can easily wash and effectively turn over this load of jeans, I do it at least 3 times every month.
John L.
scrubflex
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Oh yeah, of course...the dual-action agitator is the best (overloaded) laundry... turnover agitator designed...the best is the Kenmore spiral vane that has the 20 degree UNDERCUT...I believe it enabled 33% more laundry that could be washed in their THEN tubs
Reply #17....
the two agitators shown are actually the Handwash(on the left) and Regular(on the right that slides over top)....
the two agitators shown are actually the Handwash(on the left) and Regular(on the right that slides over top)....
pierreandreply4
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question about westinghouse washer dryers
what is the diffrence between the push button model for wash rinse temp and knob that you turn and what model was it that offered the blue agitator and did it come withe the liquid fabric softner dispenser and whats the advantage of the wash spin speed selector thats on certain model like i said its very longterm planing of course it would have to be harvest gold but find the westingouse washer dryer simple in term of use?
what is the diffrence between the push button model for wash rinse temp and knob that you turn and what model was it that offered the blue agitator and did it come withe the liquid fabric softner dispenser and whats the advantage of the wash spin speed selector thats on certain model like i said its very longterm planing of course it would have to be harvest gold but find the westingouse washer dryer simple in term of use?
Temperature selection. One is buttons, one is a knob. No other difference. Both offer the same five choices.
Speed selection. The machine with separate speed selector allows using any speed with any cycle (longer "Normal" Wash/Soak cycle and shorter Knit Fabrics cycle). Also provides multiple combinations of agitate and spin, such as Low agitate and High spin for woolens or High agitate and Low spin for permanent press items.
The machine without a speed selector has the speed set into the timer cycles. Normal Wash cycle is High agitate and High spin. Gentle Wash cycle is Low agitate and Low spin ... no other choices.
pierreandreply4
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thank you hope when the time comes that some are still avalable in canada
not sure about all machines....but noticed back then, push button controls cost a bit more than rotary controls...
not a substantial amount, like around 25.00....but as you compared models, the only difference was price and controls used....
not a substantial amount, like around 25.00....but as you compared models, the only difference was price and controls used....
scrubflex
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So then, how can a brake component be installed into the washer?
Adding A Brake To A WH TL Washer
Hi Harry, Thats your job, Of all the hundreds of things I want to do in life trying to fix and redesign the drive-line of a WH TL washer is not one one them.
You still end up with an unreliable, hard to service, mediocre performing water hog TL washer.
The best thing about WH washers and dryers from the mid 60s on was their pleasant and attractive styling, that's why we have these WHs in our museum project.
John L.
Hi Harry, Thats your job, Of all the hundreds of things I want to do in life trying to fix and redesign the drive-line of a WH TL washer is not one one them.
You still end up with an unreliable, hard to service, mediocre performing water hog TL washer.
The best thing about WH washers and dryers from the mid 60s on was their pleasant and attractive styling, that's why we have these WHs in our museum project.
John L.
That is a sharp-looking Westinghouse set, John. My very first front-loader, a WCI Frigidaire-branded rear console machine circa ‘86 had similar dispensers for bleach and fabric softener. I think it was also the last of the non-reversing machines. It started tumbling when you pulled out the cycle control and didn’t stop until the end of the final spin.
There was no sort of load-balancing protocol, either. You’d hear a loud solenoid “bang” and it was off to the races. While out-of-balance loads were not a frequent issue, I did see the machine levitate a bit several times, LOL.
There was no sort of load-balancing protocol, either. You’d hear a loud solenoid “bang” and it was off to the races. While out-of-balance loads were not a frequent issue, I did see the machine levitate a bit several times, LOL.
scrubflex
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LOL!!! I wouldn't know where to start...LGHH!!! John L...the most I'll do is mimic DanManTN if I'd found the 1970 pistachio double agitator or blue DA style...that is a beautiful set
scrubflex
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Thanks for the pics John L.
And since I haven’t seen this thread in a while, I have to say I do not like the washer’s “lock ‘n spin” feature…difficult to disable.
