Dishwasher Pre-Wash Cycle

[mielerod69]

My Miele

except the super expensive Miele's, which have to be absurd to find more water savings (could it be running just one spray arm at a time, or just a low powered pump?)

I load mine right up and it cleans anything I throw at it. See the photos. Mainly use the Sensor wash programme and it varies the water from anywhere from 7 to 17 litres, on average it uses around 10 to 12. 17 litres would be hit with 5 water changes.
Has a water softener but the water in Melbourne is soft 3 degrees so no salt is needed.

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[rapunzel]

I doubt that voltage difference/design adaptation was an issue. GE clearly intended to market the GSD outside the US and their 240v units would have come straight from their Kentucky plant.

Spoke to someone who had been working in appliance sales and imports for a long time. He told me that during the 70s and 80s all the big side by side fridges came directly from the factories in the US, without having been converted to our voltage. They just pulled out the US cable and plug and stuck in a transformer with an Aussie plug and it worked fine. Washing machines were manufactured in the US for export the same as Speed Queen is still making washers there for sale outside America.

In my case it was material failure with the fan blades separating from the motor, nothing to do with voltage or any design alterations.

Not sure if the GSD used as much as 60 liters and even if it did it wouldn't have been that much of an issue with consumers as it is today. I can't exactly remember the number of water changes for the heaviest cycle, but I don't think it was as many as 9 - probably more like 6. The longest cycle took about 68 minutes to completion.

Until the mid 80s the market for dishwashers here was still very small. Dishwashers then were seen as an expensive luxury item and very few people had them. By the late 80s many of the American brands and their products had almost completely disappeared. The only areas where American technology continued to play a major role were refrigeration and laundry. Our own appliance manufacturing industry almost completely disappeared in tandem and over the past 20 years importers have been determining what kinds of products we put in our homes. That's why we now see Miele and LG delivery trucks driving around, instead of GE, Simpson or Hoover.

The world of appliances has changed a lot. Even in the US the appliance industry has moved towards a global model that has adopted overseas design and technologies into their domestic products. More models are now being offered with standard European triple filtration units rather than the self-cleaning filters that include a proper grinder. The way things are moving, in another 10 to 20 years we will probably all have the same appliances in our homes regardless of where we live in the world.

 

[washer111]

I'm surprised a country such as ours with a thriving economy at the time would have thought such a thing! Its sad to have seen so many manufacturers disappear over the last few years, such as Dishlexes overseas production, Hoover not being on our market anymore, great Australian brands such as Simpson, Kelvinator and Westinghouse being bought out be Electrolux (or Electrosux).

I wonder if the situation in the US is the same, or was it just ht local variants of these brands that they bought out?

 

[volsboy1]

It is amazing the differences in the amount of water used in all these machines from different countries.The new 2012 Maytag Jetclean says in the manual that it can use up to 13 gallons of water with a wash time of about 3.5 hours.That is if you have it on the longest  cycle of course but I was floored when I caught that water usage.I have TONS,of G.E. Potscrubber parts some guy on ebay had a box that said G.E. dishwasher parts not sure whats in it but want it gone.I got it all for 30 bucks it had 5 new pumps and motors,wheels,spray,everything in it.There is a old Magic chief down in the basement kitchen at our farm that we got in 83 and that dishwasher still runs perfect but is loud as hell.I can hear that tower hit that door vent always I guess that is why I have always loved those Potscrubber dishwashers well the noise puts me to sleep I can't stand a quite room.