Do any of us own a classic car...older than 30yrs of age?

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ronhic

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Well I thought that this could be an interesting new topic.

I recently bought a 1969 Morris 1100 'S' automatic.

ADO16 - model code - was launched in the UK in 1962 by BMC (british motor corporation) to supplement the Mini and replace various small rear wheel drive BMC cars (they invented badge engineering)... So the Morris 1100 was born. It was also sold in the UK as an Austin, MG, Riley, Wolseley and Vanden Plas Princess. Two door and four door sedans and a two door estate (wagon) were available depending on the make and model.

BMC had factories in many countries around the world including Zetland in Sydney which was 3 miles from the CBD.

They were sold in the late 1960's in the US as the "Austin America"

Australian production versions are different to every other in a many ways. Firstly there were a raft of 37 changes to the car before local production started and this included a small bench front seat rather than buckets...we were the only market to have these, better dust sealing, more heavily padded seats etc. The cars were also 'roto-dip' rust proofed and Ollie is testament to how good this was...at 40, he has minimal rust and nothing that can't be relatively cheaply fixed...

So to the car.

The Australian 1100 from 1967 kept the series 1 bodywork of the original car but you could get the 1275cc engine from the British series 2 as an 'S' option. From Jan 1969 until production changed to the 1300/1500 (another unique Australian interpretation of the car) May 1969, you could option a 4speed...yep...4 speed automatic. An unusual gearbox in that it runs in THE engine oil just like a mini. This is the only automatic gearbox used in a car that does this and it was used from the mid 1960's until approx 1999. The gearbox needs oil changes every 1500-2000 miles to work properly...so many have not survived.

There were 768 1100 'S' automatics made in the 5months before the model change. Ollie is number 668. We believe that he is one of only 4-5 that are still running and registered as a result of the potential gearbox problems AND that you can drop this engine into a mini without any modification...many Morris 1100's have gone to the crusher after donating their hearts to a mini....they are a rare car here now, yet outsold the mini substantially.

So the spec's

April 1969
Australian built Morris 1100 'S'
1275cc engine
63hp
70 lb ft torque
4 speed AP automatic gearbox
4 door
front wheel drive

...and he has just done a 1400mile round trip to Tasmania in 10days...much of that done at 65-70mph on the highway...followed by 'british style' country roads in Tasmania...we had a ball...


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and an interior shot of one I nearly bought...I don't have a shot of mine...as you can see there is heaps of room for a car less than 13' long...

...and they came standard in 1964 with front and rear seatbelts...this would not be legislated until 1972

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classic cars

We have a couple classic cars that we are restoring. 1962 Chevy Corvair, 1965 Ford Truck, and I know its not quite 30 years old, but it is a classic already we have a 1981 Delorean.

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Hi Ronhic

I LOVE 1100s. I used to own a 1967 1100 in Burgundy duco.
I also owned 2 1800s, a 1500 sedan, 1500 Nomad (wagon), and one of the last of the Australian Minis, a Mini 1275LS in HiHo Silver with black stripe. My 1100 was in similar condition to yours, though that was over 20 years ago. Being young and silly I changed mine a bit - fitted "spoked" wheel covers from a Datsun 1200, fitted bucket seats from a Morris Marina (which were too bulky to suit the car), later changed to bucket seats from a Morris 1500 which were shapeless and amazingly uncomfortable, and fitted stering wheel from a Marina and blinker switch from an HB Torana as the Morris 1100 ones are flimsy, very easily broken and were expensive to replace.

I owned the above cars one at a time, I bought them cheap, did them up and sold them on soon after. I loved the ride and handling of those hydrolastic suspended cars. I was a 20-21 year old student at the time, I drove everywhere with my foot to the floor. I got caught speeding once on my way to uni, I was doing 120 kmh in a 60 zone. The policeman said he didn't know whether to give me a ticket or the car a medal, he didn't think an 1100 could go that fast. Needless to say I got the ticket, just kept my license by going to court to plead I needed to drive to uni. I got a 12 months good behaviour bond. These days I would lose my license for 12 months mandatory!

I have to disagree about the seat belts though - they came with mounting points for rear belts but the rear belts were not fitted as standard. My 1967 1100 had only front seat belts fitted. The belts in the car pictured are from a 1970s car, they are not original belts to a Morris 1100.

The room in those cars was amazing. I jused to have a magazine ad from the USA for the Austin America, it was advertised as "the perfect second car" and they claimed to have more interior room than a Lincoln Continental. The 1800 was even roomier, it was like a mobile ballroom. It wasn't as nimble as the 1100 though.

I sold my 1100 when it lost second gear. I should have got it fixed...

I replaced it with a 1500 Nomad, which had the 1500 OHC engine and 5 speed gearbox. (UK people would know this as the original engine/transmission from the Austin Maxi. Stuffing them in the 1100 body was an Australain aberration, as the Maxi was never sold here.) The 1500s were a disaster. Shortly after I bought mine, I took it to the mechanic who specialised in Minis and the other BMC front drive cars. He saw it and said, "oh, F**k, you didn't buy one of those did you? It will spew oil everywhere, jump out of gear, burn oil, crack exhaust pipes, timing chain will rattle, clutch will wear out, they are a bloody terrible car!!"

He was right, it did all that and more. It constantly jumped out of fifth gear, you would be driving along at 100 km/h and suddenlt the gear lever would flick back to neutral and the engine would scream. The gear lever was cable operated in the 1500, and a dseign fault in the transmission created a buld up of oil pressure where the gear cables entered the gearbox, pushing it out of engagement. They did several modifications to the design over the short life of the model but never fixed the problem. In the UK in the Maxi they completely redesigned the transmission and used a rod change instead of cables, but that nver happened in AU. The 1500 was only made from 69 to 71 when it was replaced by the Marina, which was a dreadful car.

Chris.
 
Chris, that is a very cute and clean little car.

We used to have a 1964 Lincoln Continental convertible but sold it a couple of years back. It needed everything but was fun to drive and for a heavy luxury car, it could really move out! Turns out that about a month after we sold it, the car blew up on the guy. He was OK with it, he buys and sells cars and knew anything could happen, but he ended up selling it as-is to a guy in the UK and putting it on a boat.

Currently we have the 1950 GMC 100 pick-up that has been in my family for nearly 50 years. It was originally a part of Pacific Telephone's fleet. It needs interior and exterior work but the engine has been rebuilt and it starts right up and runs great. It helped us with our move last year and does regular hauling. Recent new tires really improved the ride and handling. The old ones were hard as a rock. I love the fact that it's a man magnet. I prefer it to the convertible in that regard!

Ralph
 
And a 1970 VW 1500 (Type 3 Squareback). It still has the original fuel injection system and a rather rare automatic transmission. It too came from the same dealership in SFO. Strange that they should reunite across the country!

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Morris 1500

Here you go Chris...there is one on Ebay at the moment.

They were not a great car with the 'E' series engine, but if you get a good one, they do go well. The 1300 version which is effectively the same as my car is better from an engine point of view, but then you have the gearbox issues.

I lost 4th gear on the last day in Tasmania. The oil had degenerated so quickly over 1400miles that it wasn't working in the gearbox...so I overfilled it a good half inch over the max mark and he worked perfectly until the oil was changed in Melbourne. They are that sensitive.

 
VW

The Beetle and Type 3 are BEAUTIFUL! I went to a car show today and saw a black 1979 Beetle convertible, the LAST year for the Beetle in the US.
 
Hi Ronhic

Have you had EXPERT advice about the correct engine oil to use in your Morrie?

I have read that it is very important with those AP automatic transmissions to use an "old fashioned" oil with no friction modifiers, as they upset the auto.

I'd consult an experienced BMC/Mini specialist, I'm happy to recommend one in suburban Melbourne if you don't have one near you. Otherwise Penrite oils might have a recommendation.

Chris
 

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