Dyson CR01 part 2

[nickuk]

LOL, Aquarius..... never the diplomat, but I kind of admire you for just saying what you think. Have no experience with the washers so can't comment but as for the vacs - so true....can't stand the damn thing....was cross at the previous Miele for only lasting 6 years before falling apart but would have it back in a shot rather than this awful, cumbersome, fally over, NOISY, badly designed Dyson! Anyway, back to topic.....

 

[aquarius1984]

Well I just cant stand those who beat about the bush. To me it works or it dont.
I can now proudly say my household is a Dyson free zone since I got rid of ours a few months ago. Total waste of space and im glad for it.

Just to clarify though my posts do come across as being to the point but half the time I forget to add those smiley face things that seem to remove any hostility, Maybe one day il make more effort with it

Miele, still pleased with mine but only use it for restoring old vacs and a quick daily vac session. For the a really deep clean u just cant beat any pre 1993 Hoover Upright.

Sorry back to topic .....

R

 

[jetcone]

Wow it would appear from here that

the Dyson Contrarotator is going the way of the 1948 Launderall! Quickly.

Death by implosion in only two? three? years?

Their main claim was the two drums, take that away and you have a traditional front loader, thats all folks.

I wonder if his trouble started with the mechanical complexity of the machine OR its execution by getting it manufactured overseas?

What do the owners of these machines think about that?

 

[dyson2drums]

I think that these machines have been built very well compared to other machines nowadays, however not as good as the money paid for it! About £900-£1000.
Miele price lol

If mine gives up the ghost when ever, i ain't going to get it repaired.

I'd rather get a new one like a hotpoint aqualtis when the new ones come out with the steam function, 9kg, iron aid etc in silver. If not the LG steam 1400 spin 9kg in silver, which i like a lot at the moment. (it also won on gadget show, beat the gorenje and moon)

What do others think of it? Like David (2drumsallergy).

 

[aeg03]

2drums

what do you think i mean? As I asked, is the machine not able to do what it is designed to do, if Dyson are stopping the contrarotation.

It seems such a waste of the main feautue of the machine if it is made to work the same as a standard front loader!!

 

[aeg03]

Aquarius1984

It is a disgrace that Dyson made all this fuss about their 'amazing' contrarotating washing machine, charging people so much for it when they could choose a quality Miele machine and now they are stopping the MAIN feature of the machine - contrarotation.

My AEG Lavamat of course does not have this and there is no way you can compare the two but it only uses 42 litres of water to wash the load, the Dyson though yes much bigger, takes a much larger amount of water.

If I had a contrarotator I would like it to be contrarotating as that will be the reason why I bought the thing as my Dyson DC04 I bought it as it doesn't lose suction (so they say) I have to say that the suction is at a very good level even when it is full up. It would be like moving the cyclone techology away from the machine and putting a bag.

 

[dyson2drums]

Hey aeg03

yeah it is a waste if you have the contrarorator off! That's the main feature- what the price and fuss is about!

Ur right!

If mine does break i'll get a new one, maybe LG (steam) as i've had a good record with my lg wm1220fd 7.5kg 1200 spin!

 

[aeg03]

2drums. yeah the LG is a good machine. Don't get me wrong, I like Dyson products but James Dyson and his marketing team always make such a big deal out of their products and charge so much for them - As you agree with me the contrarotation is the main function and it is 'stopped' by the engineer- I cannot believe it.

I would like to take them to court over it if I could as they would have sold me a machine that is not fit for purpose and what is up with the availablity of the drums? Shouldn't Dyson be making these for years to come.

I lokked through their web site at the accessories page and saw for the 'Clear' and 'De Stil' models they no longer provide the same colour accessories, thiugh this does not affect the function of the machine, it will be horrible to have a 'clear' model with bits of opague parts here and there.

I could say my Dyson DC04 has a weakness, where the handle goes into the main bit of the machine, there is a tendency for this bit to crack and after this the handle no loner stayed in, which is why I had to change the while ducting or pay Dyson £75 for them to change the parts to the new 'body' I', now starting to see cracks there again. so when using the machine on Lindo, I have to hold the back spine of the machine to prevent the cracking.

This is probably why Dyson changed the plastic used on the handles of the uprights as the original started to crack after a few years.

 

[newwave1]

I remember when the dyson came out. I loved how when i saw it on the front of a newspaper! My eyes nearly fel out it was so different!

Mr dyson doesn't deserve the stick some of you are giving, i've heard heaps of horror storys and working electrical retail have encountered the good and bad and in my experience have never had a bad experience my DC14 i WON in a competition for selling vacuums, they gave me a free guarentee too! Has never gone wrong! And its always pickin up after my hairy hound kilo the rottweiler!

Anyway back to what i know best washers, and back to the dyson.

The dyson used a realistic amount of water. Having seen figures as low as 39 litres on some machines at the time, seeing 92litres on the first ones i thought, Nice one, you've actually let it use a realistic amount of water for the load in question so the clothes are washed AND Rinsed properly. This is how you call washing CLEAN not before.

I liked its crazy design, totally reflected me, rebelling from the norm. Rock and roll for me. Edgey rocky styling, tattoos, piercings, total opposite of my 3 older bros. And that effectively was the dyson. Different from you Bosch WFLS & Hoover first6kg models and hotpoint WMAs.

I sold loads of those dysons. I worked very hard to sell them because i believed in them. People liked them over mieles for capacity and speed. Don't get me wrong i sold plenty of mieles ;-)

In short. It had character.

So thats my thoughts on the dyson lol.

I am however. Disapointed they aren't fixing these complex parts that the whole machine revolves around. It should be compulsery.



Darren

 

[dyson2drums]

Yes, the dyson was surely an eye catcher as i remember people saying i wan tone in front of me in currys and comet and then look at the price and get scared! LoL
That's when we got ours!
And yeah Darren the DC14 is the most powerful dyson ever, 280 airwatts, i went along with my gran as she wanted one after using my 5 year old DC07 allergy turqouise. We got the DC14 overdrive exclusive to comet, it's usually around £220-£250. It was on special offer so we got that and picks up everything in one go, too good. LoL and my neighbour also bought it after seeing it in amazement, she breaks vacuums every month and then returns them to tesco (vax, morphy richards) and now she's got a decent one that'll last atleast 5 years due to their free guarantee.

 

[dyson2drums]

Go on the dyson link below they say it was too expensive too make so they stopped production and the ad is also therenaswell as the testing video.

http://www.dyson.co.uk/insidedyson/

 

[brisnat81]

Mum had a grey and lime DC01 that cost $900 and lasted all of 6 years before the motor would continuously overheat and stop every few minutes. We paid the $30 to send it back to Dyson and the repair cost they quoted (New Motor, post motor filter, Hand tool Hose, new cord) came to around $300.

When it worked, it was a great machine. Nice and light, solidly made and the dirt it picked up compared to the Hoover Concept 1 was phenominal.

We'd bought a Dyson Canister based on how good mums was and hated it. The hose always kinked, it'd constantly roll over whenever it got caught on anything and was much louder than the older upright.

So when mums died, we bought a Miele Dog and Cat on Sale for $400 and gave mum the turquoise Cannister. Its now 3 years old and still working fine, but we're glad to see the back of it.

Its a pity they couldnt get the washers to work properly, it seemed like such a good idea.

How big are the drums?

 

[aeg03]

It is not Mr Dyson himself I am complaining about, it is the company as a whole. Dyson boasted about contrarotation. The Dyson DC07 when it came out, said it had 330 Air Watts, the clutch system on the DC03 and 04 was put in their literature to say that the belt should not need replacing - this is true to some extent but I have heard of a lot of people needing a whole new clutch because the belts are worn out, why didn't Dyson use toothed belts on the clutch? Also tliterature used to say that the release valves provide automatic suction control - what automatic suction control?? I don't feel it when using the machine, these were there purely so the cyclone always has air going through it even when you put your hand on the end of the hose.

The washing machine is striking yes, but I'm surprised that Dyson hasn't found a way to fix the problems and keep the main function going and I wonder if Dyson will launch this again in a cheaper form or do they know that it is flawed and decided to keep it away.

 

[ronhic]

It is a shame that they couldn't get the mechanism to work properly though. I remember looking at them when I first went to the UK. I had never seen anything like it. If I hadn't known better, I would have thought that it was a display machine...all bright plastic.

In the end, it was the 'obvious' plastic (and astronomical price) that turned me off getting one when we lived there. I have to admit that I am pleased we didn't. The thought of a rather large repair bill for a unique feature would have done my head in and I would never have had confidence in the machine again.

My parents have a Dyson vac though and love it. I think it must be something about being able to see the dirt (the thought of which revolts me...I just want it off the carpet, I don't need to see it). It replaced a Hoover Turbopower the same as on the LHS of Aquarius1984's picture above. Was about $500 from David Jones if I remember correctly. Was a great machine that finally died whilst I was O/S in 2003....13 1/2 years isn't bad going.

 

[electron800]

there's a Dyson DC01 DeStijl sitting in my mum's gar

She bought it in 1997, I can't remeber the price but it was pretty steep. It's an ok hoover, nothing special at all and not a patch on our Electrolux Contour or Mum's Hoover arianne cylinder (which itself isnt great). she stopped using it cos it scratches hard flooring (lino,laminate,parquet) and the suction is pretty poor. Not only that but since it was about 2yrs old bits keep dropping off it. It's had a new baseplate, power cord, wheels and hose. It also overheats and cuts out after about 5mins, and has done for a very long time. As for not losing suction thats absolute rubbish cos it always has since new when the container is less than half full.

In short all I can say is that Dyson's products don't live up to what they claim to do from my experience, in that they do lose suction and are not reliable (2 things they claim to be). I am told the new ones are better but I'll beleive it when I see it.

I think the washers look quite cool but build quality wise they have that awful flimsy plastic door. Another gripe I have with them is that they claim to be a standard size machine but stick out miles from the cabinets so theyre clearly a lot deeper. It also seems pretty stupid that they're stopping them from contrarotating, since that was their main feature.

 

[aeg03]

electron800

You couldn't be more right there. The only thing I would say is that from my experience the vacuum cleaners suction seems to remain at a good level when full, unlike other bagged and bagless (But then again, I always washed my Dyson filter out at the correct time) so who knows.

I remember using the DC05 in the garage to clear the carpet in there and next thing the machine lost all suction, I opened it and found grit had escaped the cycle and clogged up the pre motor filter and went straight through the motor to the post motor filter, the machine burnt out not long after that, but the DC03 could cope with the same job, so it down to the cyclone design here.

I have heard on the washers that the big door on the front sometimes has a tendency to fall off, the consumer has to 'clip' it back on lol

 

[rolls_rapide]

electron800

I had a DC01 'DeStijl' as well, after two aborted attempts with DC01 'Absolute' (two samples had poor plastic in the lower motor casing).

DC01 'DeStijl' had major filter problems. The premotor filter continually clogged, and the small round HEPA exhaust filter was crap; the paper pleats in it ruptured after a very short time period, certainly not the 12 month period as they stated. I think it had such a small surface area.

The plastic on the Dyson then was very flimsy; my mother called them 'plastic rubbish'.

aeg03: You are quite correct; the DC07 was the strongest Dyson at 330 air watts. (Hoover launched their 'Hurricane' model at 350 air watts as competition).

ronhic: I still think 'Ye Olde' Hoovers (with the metal 'Senior/Junior' 'agitator' or moulded plastic 'Turbopower' 'activator') really do give the carpet a thorough beating; unlike the modern machines.

 

[ronhic]

Rolls_rapide

I'm with you.

We had a Nilfisk which I loved, but with 2 dogs and pale carpet it wasn't good enough

We have a miele evolution 5000 which has the 'proper' agitator/beater brush on it....there is a groove on the brush which causes an air vortex to beat the carpet...is wonderful to stand near and feel the carpet vibrating...and boy, does it get the dirt out....

 

[aeg03]

Rolls Rapide

Did you ever hear of DC04's leaking carbon dust? I have a DC04 which leaks out so much carbon dust, the back part of the machine turns black everytime. The filter has been changed but this still happens after some time.

http://did you ever heard

 

[rolls_rapide]

aeg03 (can't see the link!)

I did have a DC04 for a short time; swapped it for a friend's DC07 'All floors'.

I don't remember the DC04 (purple & pink model) having particular problems, but the DC07 did. I ended up removing the exhaust filter lid, ripped out the standard filter, cut up a DC02 filter, and trapped that under the lid. It also had the benefit of sealing the gap at the back of the filter lid, where the black dust came out.

The DC11 was another useless piece of shit. The hepa filter would not stay locked in place, so much so that when you used the machine, the heat deformed the parts where the filter was supposed to lock into. I ended up linking two long cable-ties together, looped through the locking holes, straddling the filter, connected the ends together, and forcibly held the filter in the position it was supposed to be.

Having owned, and used, various Dysons and seen friends' and relative's models (DC01s, DC03, DC04, DC05, DC07, DC11, DC14, DC15); I think they are quite flimsy machines, poorly designed, cheaply made and certainly not worth the asking prices. Yes, they are the best bagless, but others are catching up, and you still cannae beat a decent bagged cleaner. (Try sucking up large quantities of powder or soot and the Dysons haven't a hope in hell).